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What domain metrics to look for when looking for traffic

Located in Domain Parking and Traffic Monetization, started by Splinter2016, Sep 2, 2016

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  1. Splinter2016

    Splinter2016 Established Member

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    Hi everyone, this is my first post on namepros :)
    For the domain experts out there... I am looking at buying domains to park.
    What qualities are best to look for to know whether it has organic traffic going to it?

    I bought a name that has an Alexa rank in the 200,000 mark and tested the traffic and im only getting around 2 uniques per day! So I dont know what happen there but it does have a trust flow of 2 and citation of 30.

    Does high trust flow and equal citation flow mean better organic traffic?
    For instance I found an adult domain with a TF 20 and CF 20 that im thinking of buying... what is the likelyhood of it getting traffic?

    Looking forward to your responses

    Splinter
     
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  2. biggie

    biggie GreenFriendly.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hi

    welcome to np


    never heard of those terms, "trust flow" and "citation", but i doubt they are valid predictors of actual traffic, that a domain may receive.

    i use common sense and gut feeling.


    imo....
     
  3. Splinter2016

    Splinter2016 Established Member

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    Hi Biggie,

    Thank's for the welcome.

    I guess Trust Flow and Citation Flow are more used if someone was to build a Private Blog Network to rank.

    Do you own many domains yourself, if so, are you parking them and making any money from them?
     
  4. biggie

    biggie GreenFriendly.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    i own a few, and they earn a little ppc too

    and please, don't ask "what is the best place to park?", because there is no best place

    there are only places and you may have to try them all to see which performs best for "each" name you have.

    imo....
     
  5. Splinter2016

    Splinter2016 Established Member

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    I'v done my research where to park, I am testing redirect . com along with bois at the moment with one name I have.

    But seriously, in all honesty... is it even worth it in the end? like have you made back your money that you have currently invested in domains?
     
  6. biggie

    biggie GreenFriendly.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    you never know what an effort is worth, until after you've made it


    but it depends on the actual names you have.


    imo...
     
  7. golan

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    For traffic prediction, you need to take PR and divide it to your birthday date. This is the surest way.
     
  8. fatter

    fatter Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    welcome splinter, one of the benefits of parking is that it aids in selling the name,especially if people are clicking on adds of specific products or services they want. Parking has been good for me, except it helped me sell a good percentage of my names, with that I lost a lot of parking income and now just make small amounts in parking income. From my experience to be profitable domains have to represent real products and services in dotcom,or country specific ext. there are some who have done well with brandables and the new gltds just not my cup of tea.
    Good luck
    Joe T
     
  9. Splinter2016

    Splinter2016 Established Member

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    Thank's Joe!

    Look's like I won't be buying hundreds of names hoping to profit off the traffic any time soon then.
    I will concentrate on more creating niche sites and affiliate marketing :)
     
  10. Ang

    Ang Upgraded Member Blue Account

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    Yes. This is your best strategy.

    Parking revenue is a possibility but you will want to check backlinks, previous use of the site, strong keywords, etc, etc, etc...

    There is no magic formula. There is trial and error. Search on here and read the tons of posts about parking and then try a strategy. Then read everything again and evaluate the strategy. Then try something else. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    Sorry but there is no simple answer, there are just too many factors and unknowns.
     
  11. decades80

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    In my opinion, that thread was a bit to much for the first post. People have different parameters to look in domains for parking purposes. They are quite convergent at the end of the day. Your question in the first post was like: "I know youve spent several months, years searching for a gold in Ghana, but I would like to know coordinates on a Google map, because Ive decided I will find it."
     
  12. Ang

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    Best. Response. Ever. +1
     
  13. Splinter2016

    Splinter2016 Established Member

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    No magic formula seems to the point. Cheers.

    I am trying to source overall what the 'average' domainer searches for in the metrics. I know there is no magic forumla but surely it all boils down to a common search frame to what people look for.
     
  14. Ang

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    I guess if you want to know the lowest common denominator it would be quality backlinks. But 'quality' is a very subjective term.
     
  15. Splinter2016

    Splinter2016 Established Member

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    Just out of curiosity Ang do you park your domains or use them for anything? I'd be interested to know what people use there domains mainly for.
     
  16. Ang

    Ang Upgraded Member Blue Account

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    I park them while they wait to be developed or sold. Some are for long term holding so they are parked with no expectation of revenue at this time. I don't have the time I used to so my developing is behind and I doubt I will make full sites again, likely just mini sites.
     
  17. Ang

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    If something performs well parked, I leave it. If it doesn't, I develop it. In theory that is how it goes... not always in practice.
     
  18. NameAgency

    NameAgency Top Member PRO VIP

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    I used to buy domains for parking purposes when I started. I was doing pretty good with mid-high $xxx of monthly revenue.
    In my experience, forget about alexa rank or other similar parameters. The best way to buy domains for parking is to check the quality of the backlinks directly. I used ahrefs.com in combination with registercompass.com. Ahrefs offers the possibility to check every single backlink. It's not about quantity, but quality. Sometimes a domain has lots of active backlinks buried in forums. These are bad quality backlinks that don't drive traffic. Best backlinks are in homepages, foots and some directories. You gain a 6th sense over time. Unfortunately, ahrefs increased prices and it's expensive. It's also a time comsuming job if done correctly.

    About other parameters to take into account, "trust flow" and "citation flow" are the best indicators of quality backlinks.

    Forgot to mention that you are not alone in this planet, and when a good domain for parking drops, others are aware and usually are auctioned. That is the reason because sometimes you can see really weird names with many bids.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2016
  19. ecalc

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    Average monthly search volume of sld.tld > 10 is a reliable predictor of direct type-in traffic. For referral traffic, heavyweight backlinks normally show up on page 1 of a quick sld.tld google search. Your instinctive interest in traffic gives you a leg up on a lot of members here. Find names that bring home some bacon. Nothing's worse than a freeloading name.
     
  20. deez007

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    Hey @Splinter2016

    Welcome to NP....unfortunately trust flw and citation don't really come into play when trying to gauge traffic metrics for parked domains. They do give a good indication of the quality of the domains backlinks though.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2016
  21. catchmesleeping

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    There are lots of strategies for earning parking revenue - but honestly, most of them don't work!! :-/

    Just to give you something a bit more concrete, here are some stats for my top 10 names at Parking Crew, so far this year. All the names have earned > $50 so far this year:

    4 names related to some kind of technology service
    3 names related to real estate
    2 names related to insurance services
    1 name is about a kind of product

    In terms of daily traffic:

    3 are in the range of 5 to 8 visits per day
    5 are in the range of 1 to 5 visits per day
    2 have less than 1 visit per day

    Honestly, it's hard to build up a reliable revenue stream from parking these days. You'll spend so much in buying names on the speculation that they might have traffic, and then discover that they are dead! One pro tip - look at who owned the name before it expired. If it was held by a large parking portfolio owner previously, and it was being dropped, you can assume that it hasn't performed well.
     
  22. pokerdawg

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    Splinter, TF & CF could be useful indicators if you use them right.

    Think of "Trust Flow" as the "Trust" or "Quality" of the backlinks coming in.

    Citation Flow is the number of backlinks coming in.

    If you have TF = 2 and CF = 30, that means you have a domain with a LOT of shitty backlinks. The domain was heavily spammed with crappy backlinks in the past and won't do well with SEO.

    Ideally, I like to see TF > 10, even better TF > 20

    TF should be +/- 20% of CF. If TF is much higher than CF, that is fine. It means you have a handful of ultra-high quality backlinks, but not a lot of them.

    For parking purposes, you would want TF to be within the parameters above. If you had TF=20 CF=30, it would mean you have a lot of backlinks, most are pretty good, and could be a source of traffic.

    If you had TF=40 and CF = 20, it means you have backlinks from high quality sources, like CNN, etc. Fewer backlinks with extreme trust.

    You won't get click traffic (i.e., hyperlinks in a news article) from shitty sites, because no one reads them. They are pure search engine spam. But hyperlinks from REAL blogs / news articles / trusted sources / social media, yes, those could get traffic.

    Hopefully this helps!
     
  23. Splinter2016

    Splinter2016 Established Member

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    Thank you for everyones input on the subject, much appreciated.
    I have managed to scrape over 200k domains with metrics using PBNlab crawler.
    It's great but now have the job of filtering out the good from the bad.
    I have found this domain game/hobby quite addictive and fun at the same time, It's kinda like panning for gold :)
     
  24. daica85

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    This is one of my strategies now, I'm working as an affiliate in small niches market.
     
  25. Splinter2016

    Splinter2016 Established Member

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    Nice! Care to share the affiliate company you are working with and whether you have made any money out of it so far?
     

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