Labeled as domain in Domain Appraisal started by lolwarrior, May 30, 2018.
Reborn baby reminds me of cloning.
I have a few channels
@leadnetwork about your domain name crowd / army - imo it can serve as new gTLD brandable, but for this one, I would personally have little expectations in general.
It does not make much sense to me, and although quick google search shows there are some end users who can use this name, U feel to make a sale it will require you to directly contact them.
In this case, you can certainly sell it for $500 - $2k imo, but considering renewal for .army is around $25 at many registrars, and STR here is less the 1% imo, it does not make much sense from math point of view. So it is a domain name for which it is good to make sale effort during first year of registration, and if no replies/action/offers or visits, I would then say good-bye to it. Just my personal opinion, hope I did not miss something.
@jamesall about your name Channel10 / live - well, I am not very optimistic here - if you go to uniregistry.com, and put string "Channel10" in search field, you will see that it is available to reg in 241 extensions, and it is taken in 9 extension.
At the moment end users can registrer "Channel10" in .website for $0,99, in .club for $1,99, in .online for $3,99, in .today for $3,99 etc, etc. etc .. so this can give you some estimate what the string in .live might be worth atm, as all those other extensions are very close alternatives, with slighly different semantic meanings. The name imo simply suffers of what I would call in this thread "too many alternatives in new gTLD space".
Live being the operative word. Goes against the grain of matching names. Channel10.baby is probably available but ... errr...
Looking forward to your take on this.
@BrandsOpen regarding your name CBD / International - I am sure you know well that it is a great name I like your other names in that niche as well, generally I think you are on very good path with your new gTLD registrations.
CBD / International has all attributes what makes it investment-worthy, imo:
- name has just standard renewal for .international, which is 15-20 at many registrars - thus very easy to hold longterm
- can form great international brand
- cbd is hot as hell atm, and will be even hotter as more and more countries will pas relevant legislation in future.
So, here you have it. I feel it can sell in 4k-10k range with STR 1% in 2019. Maybe for more like 15k-20k (with STR going down sharply, of course), but I would not be surprised at all.
I would have this remark though: sometimes it is better to hold on our good names with low renewals for few years, not immediatelly to resell them just to have a "sale". As time pass, names like this sell for more and more, even on wholesale market. When new gTLDs started in 2014, other domainers would offer you $25 wholesale for names of this quality, now they can offer you $250-$500 or more. And this just improves each year as time goes. So imo it is good to keep some high quality names and actually to build EQUITY in your porftolio, as I personally know lot of people (once proud to be super sellers), who sold their best names too soon for too cheap (just my personal opinion), and now they have absolutely nothing (which is a fact, confirmed whenever I look into their portfolios).
So imo name like cbd / international with such low renewal I would hold for end user (not for another domain investor), and price pretty high (you can easily budget for renewals, 10 years renewals will cost you 200, and you will ALWAYS sell it for more then 200, so it is not an risky approach imo).
Very good name, GL
Thanks for that detailed appraisal, absolute PRO as always!
There you have it. I know it's potential, and will not pull the trigger fast on this one 😉
CBG (.group), what's the take?
@tracey sclater I am sorry I skipped your name, not really sure how I have missed that: regarding vintage / golf: quick google search shows there are some venues for which the name would be nice upgrade as their current names are not really cool. There is a niche in ecommerce where people are trading vintage golf equipment. What I think is that your name could serve best as nice new gTLD brandable, and my feeling is that it could sell in $1k - $4k with STR 1% for any given year of holding. It might sell even for more imo, but with STR going quickly down. It is a nice name, can form short, clean an memorable brand for end user.
For you as an domain investor, I think it is not that rosy: it is possible to reg .golf names now for something like $2,5 - $4 at some registrars, so first year of holding is very cheap. Your name has standard renewal price for .golf, which is around $35 - $45 at many registrars at the time of writing. So your math (if above estimates hold in reality) is like following: your projected yearly profit is $10 - $40, while your fixed yearly cost for this domain name is $35 - $45 (unless there are some renewal promotions which I am not aware about atm). This seems to be unfortunatelly not much in your favour as an domain investor, imo.
So this is the name, where to do active outbound to potential end users is best approach, particularly during first year of holding.
Nice name, GL
Thanks very much for your last appraisal . Cheers.
@F33333 regarding your name CBG / group - quick google search shows that there are lot of end users who can benefit from the name, as they have sometimes long or clumsy domain names in legacy extensions.
Name seems to have medium premium renewal attached to it, around $50, and can sell anywehere between 2k - 8k in 2019 with STR 1% imo, but ONLY in case you will do an active outbound for it to relevant end users. If you will just park it and hold it passively, I think the STR will be then less then 1% for this price range estimate.
Personally, I am not a big fan of those LLL games in new gTLD space, as to be profitable with them, I feel they require lot of active work - some people I know here at Namepros tried to do that with LLL in .online, some with LLL in .network, etc. The logic behind this is always the same, to try to find an end users for which the LLL name will be nice abbrevitation, and new gTLD extension like .group (or similar more broad extensions like .online for example) will somehow match it.
I would say it can be a a profitable approach, but only in case you like to reach out to your clients. Even in this case, your projected yearly profit here is $20 - $80, while your fixed yearly costs is $50 - so this makes it only so - so investment in my personal opinion. So it really mostly depends on your personal skills in case of such names, imo.
@Barnalos your BusinessEnter / com is a .com name, so it is not new gTLD name, while this is thread for new gTLDs only. But if you have some new gTLD domain names, feel free to submitt it here, I will take a look Thanks a lot.
@lolwarrior Not sure if you are doing 1 app per person or not, but do you mind sharing your thoughts on connect//financial?
Thanks very much @lolwarrior for the detailed opinion. Totally agree it needs a lot of active outbound effort, hopefully someone else sees the value!
Keep up the great appraisals
I have an idea about this one, but super interested about your opinion.
Renewal at $100 / year
@NameJi about your name valuate / name - I admitt it somehow goes semantically together, but personally I really do not feel it much. It is more kind of a domainer name, then a name aimed towards end users, imo.
Sure, some domainers who would like to start an domain/name appraisal site can use the name, but there are so many alternatives now in new gTLD space (and not only when ut comes to number of different extensions for keyword "valuate", but also when we consider various semantically similar keywords, like "appraisal", "appraisals" or "valuation" , which are now availalble in so many new gTLD extensions for few USD, if you check uniregistry.com for example ... so there are lot of close, or more distant alternatives to your name atm, end users can choose from dozens of alternatives.
So I feel this name might be something like $100 - $150 if other domain investor will buy it from you...but I would not invest in it personally.
Just my opinion (I might be wrong here).
@leadnetwork regarding your name pre / bid - I like the name
a) very short, clear. meaningful, it is actually a thing, as quick google search shows:
"Pre-bid meetings are usually held, if previously mentioned in the solicitation documents, during the bid/proposal preparation period. Their purpose is to clarify any concerns bidders may have with the solicitation documents, scope of work and other details of the requirement. These meetings are formal and the results are made available in writing to all prospective bidders that registered interest in the requirement, be it through requesting, buying or downloading the solicitation documents from an official website. Prospective bidders are permitted to request clarifications by a date and time stipulated in the solicitation documents."
b) domain name has just standard renewal fee for .bid, which is around 22 at many registrars, so it is easy to keep in your porftfolio.
c) there are no real alternatives I can immediately think of in new gTLD space
Disadvantage - there is 1 MAJOR disadvantage, and it is a very small end user pool for this name, and thus small STR per any given year. Your end user is very specific - probably some company, which specialises in above mentioned "pre bid" process. You would definitely need to identify and make reach to such companies, explain them that they can get short .bid name, explain them the advantages of this name, etc.
It is very difficult to put price on such name, as it is very specific and unique - so to have clearer opinion, I would need to analyze how many of such companies are out there, what are their names (are their names good, or just clumsy?), and how wealthy those organisations are, etc, etc. That would probably take few hours to do, and it is something what you would need to do anyway, if you want to have success with the name.
Still, If I should guesstimate some price range here, I think it would be probably 5k - 20k name, but STR for this range per any given year of holding is maybe around 0,1%, if you just hold the name passively. in case you would work with this name actively, I feel STR can then improve to be around 1% - in which case it would prove as an good investment for you, as your projected yearly profit would be $50 - $200, while your fixed yearly holding cost is only $22.
Nice name, but requires some work to make it profitable. GL
@tracey sclater your domain name swiss / blue is a real cutie imo Really great one. As google shows it is actually a name for a specific kind of gemstone (specially treated topaz), so it can create really nice brand for jewelry ecommerce or company which trades with them or sells them.
Combined with the fact that there are simply NO viable alternatives in new gTLD space, and that it has only standard renewal attached to it (around 15 for .blue at many registrars), this should be a long term name in your porftolio.
Hard to put the price on something which does not have available alternatives really, and is in such a specific niche, however if that would be my name, I would not sell for less then 5k in 2019, as it can be much more in future. Once again, for this small renewal, you can do outbound with the name, you can reject low ball offers, etc, so time plays in your favour, imo.
Saying that, it will probably require some outbound effort, as we can not expect that 100% of end users worldwide in jewelry industry will be informed by default that they can actually get name like that. But this is the type of name that if you sell it for 20k in future, I would not be surprised at all.
Beaufiful name, GL
Could you please appraise BitcoinAndroid.com ?
Domainindex shows $3500 and i'm not sure how accurate it is.
Let me know your thoughts.
Hey, thanks for doing this!
Tournaments / Stream
I was going to use this for a game tournament stream but we ended up going with a more brandable .com domain.
Hello again, please appraisal
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