Warning member 26122612

[-OutlawBiker-]

WARNING!!! Member 2612 on DNF and 26122612 on NP

This is the same guy that bounced a $2k paypal echeck on me and it took the Enom fraud unit to get my names back. This guy works out of Florida, Russia and Isreal and thinks he can get away with whatever he wants to using several different aliases (including numbers).

Ban this guy now!

Check this link http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff31598.htm

 

[Jammer]

thanks for the heads up.

 

[zachbb]

Is it a good idea to not accept echecks then?

 

[-OutlawBiker-]

Is it a good idea to not accept echecks then?

The problem with paypal is that echecks from a crook can bounce, and credit card payments vis paypal can be put in for a charge-back months after the deal was done and the names are gone.

The crooks make it look like you've been paid and then get lost real quick.

 

[sunken]

With echecks, I usually hold the name or service until the check clears. Most people understand that. It's true that no matter which way you do it, with paypal you can possibly get scammed either way due to their policies. It has happened to us. For large purchases, would definitely use some sort of escrow service.

 

[spy69]

Yea I got paid with an echeck once and just waited till it cleared.

 

[26122612]

This email was originally sent on: (Forgot to email Namepros as well)

From: M. S <[email protected]> Mailed-By: gmail.com

To: *****
Date: Mar 19, 2006 1:50 PM
Subject: DNF Member StocDoctor


Hello,

My name is Moshe Shneider, member id is 2612

I had a previous transaction with member stocdoctor, it was for 47 NNN.US domains for the amount of $2000.00

The member advised me is going through a divorce, that lawyers are involved etc.

since that was the case i clearly advised him i will only pay once all domains are transferred to my acct, this never happened - he transferred 19, and never completed the transfer which made me uncomfortable and i then contacted enom to just push the 19 domains back to him for non interest of dealing with him in anyway (enom did take sometime before they pushed the domains back)

Originally i offered to do the transaction via Escrow.com but he wanted to do a paypal which i think shows im not in the domain "taking" business but in the buying business, regardless, the member went ahead and posted in several forums i tried to scam him etc when in fact and if needed i have email proof to the following:

- I offered/asked for escrow.com
- I advised him nothing will be sent prior to full name transfer to my acct
- I spoke and emailed enom several times asking to return domains to original acct where pushed from

Please advise me of my options through the DNF site as i really dont have the time or will to play these unnecessary posting games and am expecting them removed.

Best Regards,

Moshe Shneider
+972 54 64 ** ***
US# 954-***-****(though i am currently in israel)

Thanks!


I Did not want to post this publicly but was advised to by another member for clarification purposes

 

[-OutlawBiker-]

RJ Ban this guy now please!

What a crock! I thought this scammer just dried up and blew away. I really doubt any member recommended he post again.

First I see he's using the name Moshe Shneider now. What happened to the name Michael that he used with his contacts to me? Or the name David that he has some of his names registered under, as well as Daniel? Or any of the other names he's used to scam others in the past? (see ripoff report link in my previous post above)

Errors in his statements above:
*I NEVER said I was going thru a divorce. (I've been divorced for 13 years)
*He NEVER advised me that he would only pay once all domains are transferred to his account. Instead he wanted all names prior to payment and I said I would send the first batch of 19 to show good faith and he would then send paypal for the $2k. He sent it, but it never cleared.
*He never contacted Enom as he says, in fact the fraud department had to go after him thru his account there to get the names back.
*This guy has been reported as a fraudster by several other people than myself. Why is he not banned yet?
*I have had several hundred transactions with the members and can provide references. Fortunately I've only run into a couple fraudsters, but this guy is one for sure.

Talk about a waste of time, I'd be glad to start loading up this thread with copies of emails, PMs, links to other complainants, the Florida Attorneys notes etc. etc. if needed.

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Like I said, don't take my word for it, just do a little googling.

Sample excerpt:
The indictments and civil action against the companies resulted from a joint federal-state investigation, dubbed “Operation Stow Biz,” which involved the Florida Attorney General’s Office, the Justice Department and the U.S. Department of Transportation.

-- Moshe Schneider a/k/a Michael Schneider a/k/a Moshe Shneider a/k/a Noshe Sineuser, individually and as President of Shneider Van Lines, Inc., East Coast Moving and Storage, Inc., and as an officer and director of Movingcompanies.com Corp.; Shneider Van Lines, Inc.; East Coast Moving& Storage, Inc., and Movingcompanies.com Corp.

 

[SimpleDomaining]

- I offered/asked for escrow.com
- I advised him nothing will be sent prior to full name transfer to my acct
- I spoke and emailed enom several times asking to return domains to original acct where pushed from

hmmm, never in my life i have seen, that people are at first transfering domains, and than, after it receiving payments. sounds soooooo sooooooooo fishi to me.

 

[-db-]

I don't know "26122612" and have never heard of him until now, but...

OutlawBiker is a member of a certain exclusive group of domain investors I know of (I can't give details, they will hurt me :o ) and these guys have solid business ethics and reputations. I've not seen a single example of anybody ever reporting an incident with them.

I also find it hard to believe he would agree to transfer 47 domains without any payment.

 

[RS]

Hmm, seems pretty odd^ And a bad scam.

 

[Fundraiser]

OutlawBiker is a member of a certain exclusive group of domain investors I know of (I can't give details, they will hurt me :o )

I know of these people and word is that you, -DB-, are protected.


Regarding the original warning post, members can rely on it being 100% accurate.