vBulletin and NamePros...

[ZuraX]

I think RJ should put off making any new changes to NP until he can upgrade all the old "hacks" so they now work with the new way vBulletin does hacks/mods. I just think NP should be using the newest vBulletin and not this old one...

 

[ZuraX]

The new VB is way better than this one..

 

[ThaiN]

hmmm how better? And whats wrong with this one now. It seems pretty interesting to me

 

[ZuraX]

Just to name one... AJAX...

 

[cpvr]

The new VB is way better than this one..

ya exactly

 

[Lyte]

Uhh... what's AJAX? I'm using 3.5.3 and that doesn't sound familar. What else??

Lyte

 

[Kadenz]

AJAX is a kind of javascript type thing, say these quick posts, in the new version of vB, it would automatically post instead of refresing the page to post, you can even edit your post without the need of refresh.

 

[cvxdes]

I dont think we need AJAX, I just think we need some skin updates, better smilies, and that's all.

And Lyte-

Ajax, shorthand for Asynchronous JavaScript and XML, is a Web development technique for creating interactive web applications. The intent is to make web pages feel more responsive by exchanging small amounts of data with the server behind the scenes, so that the entire web page does not have to be reloaded each time the user makes a change. This is meant to increase the web page's interactivity, speed, and usability. The first known use of the term in public was by Jesse James Garrett in his February 2005 article Ajax: A New Approach to Web Applications. At subsequent talks and seminars Garrett has made the point that Ajax is not an acronym.

The Ajax technique uses a combination of:

* XHTML (or HTML), CSS, for marking up and styling information.
* The DOM accessed with a client-side scripting language, especially ECMAScript implementations such as JavaScript and JScript, to dynamically display and interact with the information presented.
* The XMLHttpRequest object to exchange data asynchronously with the web server. In some Ajax frameworks and in certain situations, an IFrame object is used instead of the XMLHttpRequest object to exchange data with the web server.
* XML is sometimes used as the format for transferring data between the server and client, although any format will work, including preformatted HTML, plain text, JSON and even EBML.

Like DHTML, LAMP, or SPA, Ajax is not a technology in itself, but a term that refers to the use of a group of technologies together.

 

[B33R]

Forget AJAX and new skins.

All this forum needs are smilies and a fully functional, improved DNOA.
DNOA has a lot of potential and should be the #1 priority IMHO.

Oh and they seem to be lacking a moderator by the name of B33R too! :hehe:

 

[ThaiN]

hehe It doesnt need smilies NP Have enough smilies what Np need is More np-incentives

 

[Lyte]

I just think we need some....better smilies, and that's all.

I've been calling for additional smiles for years.... years I tell you!!!

Lyte

 

[kev]

i really like the way namepros is layed out. I dont think it should be changed :imho: sometimes u can over do a new design like the way ddboard did it.

 

[ZuraX]

VB 3.6 is going to rock... it has a warning system and all kinds of stuff.

 

[deleted984054565403]

In my opinion, NamePros is stable as it is. There's no reason an upgrade is absolutely necessary. I personally operate on the basis of "if it's not broken, don't fix it". What NamePros has now works perfectly fine, that's why there are over 30,000 members.

The only thing NamePros needs a change in is people trying too hard to become moderators. Apparently the concept of "being nice because it's nice" has worn off and people are only being nice to improve their reputation. But that's a whole, separate, unrelated topic.

I've always liked the smilies here too as they are now. If there are too many and they are too elaborate (animated) it sucks the professionalism out of the board like a Hoover. What we have now is simple and gets the word across. If you can't communicate what you want without even more additional graphics, then there's a serious problem. More emoticons means slower page loading times too, don't get me started on the negatives of more emoticons.

 

[Eric]

And let it be stated again about the work it'd take to update to 3.5.x. There are many custom modifications on this board. Most notably the uCash & uShop, the Domain Registration system, among other things. AFAIK, the uCash & uShop for 3.5.x is still BETA. If RJ was to update, it could take months.

NamePros isn't the only board that hasn't upgraded. AFAIK, SitePoint is still running 3.0.3. There are many other large boards that are still running 3.0.x too. That's something vB has going for it.. it's stability. No critical need to update.

I'll agree with Etab - "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

-Eric

 

[ZuraX]

But it is broke.... Some of the last few updates added much needed fixes not just new stuff.

 

[deleted984054565403]

But it is broke.... Some of the last few updates added much needed fixes not just new stuff.

There may be updates that may be better, but the community is functioning as it should the way it is.

 

[ZuraX]

And if RJ hasnt added all the "fixes" and security updates that were released and all 33,226 Members, 198,641 threads, and 1,275,680 posts just up and go poof one day by someone doing evil?

 

[RJ]

I keep up on the security updates for the vb3 line. The last several I've had patched within hours of the announcements.

vb 3.5 is definately cool. I run it on a couple other forums I own, and would eventually like to upgrade NamePros as well. However I am not going to rush into it because doing so has the potential to be more disruptive than beneficial.

I've made a list of all the customizations we have on NP. There's probably more than you realize at first glance. Everytime I think I have it planned out I rember one more thing that would need to be ported.

Some things are minor additions.. motm, highlighted threads, Adsense revenue sharing, etc. Other things are a little more difficult to port over -- the domain registration + management systems, NP$ exchange, domain credit system, NP Clicks, NP for Visitors, DNOA and WebDesignTalk integration, and the registrar review system.

My main concern is the stability of the NP$ and domain systems. You could imagine what problems we'd face if people couldn't manage their domains or NP$ anymore. We're enjoying a period of nice stablity right now and I'd hate to ruin that.

Over time, everything custom about NamePros will be rewritten for the upgraded vb platform. We'll have a test forum where all the bugs can be worked out ahead of time. It won't be soon, but it will happen.

Thanks for the comments!

RJ

 

[jeter4982]

I agree that it is not worth the hassle for RJ to attempt to upgrade to 3.5 when the current NP is functioning fine. The AJAX and all of that would be nice, but to me it is not worth all the downtime, and several days of work which it would take to succesfully port all the mods and additions to NP.

Tom