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Vacation.Rentals & Home.Loans Analysis - The Domain Vlog

Labeled as video in Domain Industry News started by Josh R, Apr 11, 2018.

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  1. Josh R

    Josh R Owner of BrandConsultants.com & TheDomainBlog.com PRO VIP

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  2. Leo Angelo

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    Great sales. A welcome ammunition for dealers of domain names in general and new TLDs in particular. Definitely helpful in setting and justifying a higher pricing strategy.
     
  3. stub

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    I think these were too expensive for nGTLD's. But what can you do when the .com's are taken and you want to grow your business? It should be noted these are millions, possibly, billions of dollars segments.
     
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  4. platey

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    I do like a good dot com

    But nothibg can get close to a gtld for organic seo than a gtld when the industry and or service sector is the gtld dictionary keyword that ranks in google

    Eg

    A one keyword gtld is a two keyword domain with both keywords being ranked in google for each and both keywords and the . in the keyword is effectively ignored and it makes no difference

    Eg

    If namepros was a gtld

    It would be

    Name.pros

    With no dot com etc as. it would use dot pros etc

    But if someone was to type

    Name pros

    In to google

    Not much if any listing would appear higher in google than

    Name.pros

    Used purely as an example

    So to use the two gtlds mentioned

    Nothing can get close to the two dictionary keywords in their respective sectors
     
  5. stub

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    Do you have a real world example? So I could check this out. Thanks.
     
  6. JB Lions

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    Home.Loans, search on home loans, nowhere in sight:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Home+Loans&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=Home+Loans&pc=MOZI&form=MOZSBR

    Went 10 pages deep, page 2 is where they're already hiding the bodies. Colossal waste of money but good on the registries for getting somebody to spend that much. Should have gotten a made up .com for about $10 and spent the rest on marketing/development. Plus, the .com of home loans and vacation rentals, 1 developed ,1 forwarded to another .com. They'll benefit from some leakage, wouldn't happen if you used some made up .com.
     
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  7. DomainRecap

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    Yep, this is not 2008 we're living in, and Google and Bing have evolved greatly since then. You can call your site pretty well anything, but provide excellent & relevant content and do good SEO, and you will rank higher in your particular category than using antiquated "keyword stuffing" like this.
     
  8. Alessandro Couteau

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    Multi family loans
    Coffee club

    Google these ^ and the GTLDs will come up first, it’s not rocket science for those commenting here, it’s not just a domain that gets you results, you need qualitative SEO and a large budget ! Simple as that

    Just a couple ;)
     
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  9. DomainRecap

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    Actually, I don't for either using standard settings, and my top options are Club Coffee, Coffee of the Month Club, Coffee Club USA, Nespresso, etc. - all .COMs

    Coffee.Club is at the top of Page 2 on my Google results, but MultiFamily.Loans fares a bit better and is on the middle of Page 1. But I don't see this having anything to do with the gTLD, and a lot to do with them using MultiFamily.Loans in the header of every page.
     
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  10. Alessandro Couteau

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    Interesting, for me they are all #1 - and coffee club owns coffee.club so you know, that’s very interesting though, I’m on private browser with tracking off yet they come up 1st for me on apple safari brand new iPhone 8
     
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  12. Josh R

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    Interesting that the buyer owns Boat.Rentals and Land.Rentals... They don't seem to be ranking very high when I search the terms in google though...

    Also sounds like a bit of an impulse buy. The buyer describes how he instantly picked up the phone and called Uniregistry upon notification that it was available... Within 5 minutes of knowing the domain was available he offered 15K, then Brooke countered at 650K... Within 30 seconds, and while still on the phone, the buyer then increased his offer to 500K!?! ... Brooke must have jumped out of her seat.
     
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  13. Kate

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    The lesson is always the same: if you want to make money in new extensions, better be a registrar.
     
  14. DomainRecap

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    That sounds like the time I was in a NY club and saw a table of supermodels and decided to go over. I asked one if she would like to come over and see my place, to which she replied "No, sorry.... but all four of us would love to come over!".

    :-P
     
  15. EZPZYO

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    I personally believe the buyer made an educated smart decision, especially after watching the domain sherpa interview Link
     
  16. Josh R

    Josh R Owner of BrandConsultants.com & TheDomainBlog.com PRO VIP

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    Maybe.
    I don’t think picking up the phone and making an offer for $500k within 5 minutes is a great idea though.
    Think it through before countering at 500k just a few minutes into an initial inquiry....
     
  17. EZPZYO

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    There are some things in life that don't make sense. I guess, It's human nature to think wisely and act foolishly.
     
  18. BaileyUK

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    I've already posted this Rick Schwartz post in another thread but it deserves to be here in this thread as well. I appreciate he's not to everyones taste. But he does seem to sum-up what is going to (and already is) undermining the whole Ntld perspective .. if domainers can't trust them, why should end business users feel more confident.


    Rick Shwartz says

    april 15th 2018

    A lot of these companies have an interesting relationship with the truth and/or proof. These folks have been BS’ing us for many years for their own self absorbed financial interests at the expense of GULLIBLE domainers! Believe NOTHING!

    Notice that very few domainers have ANY GTLD sales after how many years and 30 million registrations? Almost every sale is either a direct registry sale or a registry ordered auction. Some with questionable results.

    They all wanted the same result as .com but these companies clawed back every possibly value combination they could think of. MANY after a DOMAINER actually registered the domain and the registry decided it was too valuable and clawed it back after the fact. After it was bought and paid for. DISGUSTING PRACTICE! These companies have no honor. If they make a mistake, YOU, the domainer are always the ones getting screwed. And even so, when combined they still sell very few!

    They all want to be .com and not ONE has copied the .com playbook. Good luck with that. The only ones they are fooling are domainer wannabees and fools.

    In time, these worthless gtld domains will just be redirected to a REAL .COM domain name! Just look at the history! They FAIL each and every time! GTLD’s should come with a warning label! Caution, you might lose MOST of your traffic to the .com counterpart. You may be building someone else’s business instead of your own!

    Meanwhile what percentage of these reported sales are truly genuine? And genuine means, $$$ changed hands and if there were any other perks, ad dollars or ANY OTHER consideration, rebate, refund etc included in the deal that was not reported.

    GTLD’s are an unwanted, unneeded product with virtually no market other than foolish domainers looking for the second coming and going broke! SAD!
     
  19. EZPZYO

    EZPZYO Active Member VIP

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    Agreed, but the pigeon shi* theory is debatable after watching buyers POV on VacationRentals.com
     
  20. Josh R

    Josh R Owner of BrandConsultants.com & TheDomainBlog.com PRO VIP

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    Why?
     
  21. BaileyUK

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    Maybe somebodies forgetting the buyer of Vacationrentals.com bought an entire successful business not just a domain, although the domain was key
     
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  22. EZPZYO

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    15:10 if you can't afford a Ferrari you buy a Corolla. You'll cover the same distance but not as fast the Ferrari will.
     
  23. Josh R

    Josh R Owner of BrandConsultants.com & TheDomainBlog.com PRO VIP

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    But why buy a Corolla for the cost of a Ferrari?
     
  24. EZPZYO

    EZPZYO Active Member VIP

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    He just found a better spot to fish for Tuna.
     
  25. Josh R

    Josh R Owner of BrandConsultants.com & TheDomainBlog.com PRO VIP

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    Haha.
    In my opinion his opening offer of 15k is more appropriate than 500k.... if you take out the Home.Loans sale, where are the comparables?

    I was the highest bidder at Namescon for Business.Loans - 10k unsold.... Live auctions are subject to inflated prices as well.
     
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