discuss Using bots to check/buy domain assets

[Name Trader]

Also its much easier to work with bot that search domains, i found tons of best domains and i mean best domains which no body ever register them, and its f*cking weird , there was a day i found very high quality domain until i register it somebody already buy it , so from experience not theory, out there is alot of high end domains its just impossible to find them by hand, with bot its much easier,

Which bot do you use and recommend?

 

[Name Trader]

mate go to some freelancer coder website pay to someone to build you bot, its very easy, the hard part its to make the bot more smart,

OK. I can understand that. But what parameters should I give to the freelancer, apart from please write me a bot. Apart from I want a smart bot. Where does the bot go, what does it look for, what does it report. I have to specify what I need the bot to do. As I've said. I've never seen or heard of a bot like this?

It's interesting that none of the domains you have given as examples of being found by your bot are registered. You don't have faith in your own bot to find great domains?

How long have you been doing this? How many domains have you registered? How many domains have you sold? At what prices? $15-$50?

 

[NYJimbo]

airflightjet
flythisjet
dotcarrent.....also dotrentcar

Those are junk.

 

[Name Trader]

Those big domain companies must be using bot
Hugedomains

I don't think HugeDomains.com is using a bot. They can find any dropping domains they like from their sister company DropCatch.com. I think the guys at Drop Catch, if you called their entire ecosystem, a bot, would be extremely insulted.

In any case, @zeev yagorov is not talking about dropping domains. He's talking about finding valuable domains which have never been registered I agree with @NYLimbo, the examples provided by zeev, are far from stellar. Read.. crap. Not even zeev has registered them for himself.

 

[NameAgency]

i was thinking to sell around 50k domains to some big company like

Marchex , but the problem is for example if i will go to rick and say look i have x domains he maybe say to me they bad but then will register them because i didnt regsiter them,

Marchex sold 25 million of dollars of domains and my domains is million time much more quality

Zeev, try to understand that forums like NamePros are places where you can learn from other's experiences, good and bad.

Be smart and humble. Read, read, read. After 6 months reading about domaining in forums and blogs, you'll have a better understanding. The secret of this business is that there is no secret, only experience.

 

[Ategy]

My brain exploded going through this thread!

There is absolutely no doubt that the best way to select domain names would be a hybrid combination of a VERY good bot .. working together with .. a human brain!

@zeev yagorov .. I think your bigger problem is that unfortunately your English is horrible .. as such it's unfortunately impossible for you to ever recognise what a good domain even is for the main English market.

You could have the most powerful bot in the world, but if you can't feed it the proper data and tweak the algorithms for good English domains .. then even the best bot is worthless.

So we can't even have a real conversation about your bot because the names you list are either taken .. or horrible .. but it's impossible to know if it's because of your English .. or your bot .. (or both).


It's also very important to note that a "bot" can be a very VERY wide range of algorithms and data sets .. from amazing to garbage ... when it's comes to finding good SELL-ABLE domains, you would need Deep Blue level of algorithms, language rules, language data and computing power to even start to get half-decent results for finding what would be good domains THAT ARE NOT ALREADY TAKEN.


Beyond that there most certainly are automation tools and advanced filters that many good experienced domainers likely use to help them cut through a lot of the clutter ... but at the end of the day they will still only buy less than 0.1% of what their "system" (/ bot) finds. So yes .. it's better to have a bot that filters things down to the point where you have 1/1000 that are good instead of 1/50,000 .. but at the end of the day with the big domainers it's a human doing most of the final analysis.


@zeev yagorov .. like some of the others I request that you stop swearing and try to focus on being as clear as possible .. you are very difficult to understand. It's too bad, because this could have been an interesting discussion.

Good luck going forward .. and good luck with your bot .. but if you're truly serious about domaining, I suggest you either stick to liquid domains, or very seriously consider taking English lessons .. otherwise it isn't even possible for you to understand what is a good or bad domain.

 

[NYJimbo]

I've never seen a bot doing the sort of things you are describing.

I don't think Zeev has ever seen one either.

 

[EbookLover]

private porns.com

74000 searches per month

 

[Dimitris]

I use excel spreadsheets with dictionary lists and a copy to clipboard "function". Then I check availability in chunks of 5000 names using NameBright's bulk scan or the old software DomainInspect (I own the .com, lol).

 

[barman]

It's threads like these that make me wonder why i waste my time on NP in the first place...

::sigh:: I too wish I had a bot that will find me bad names so it can waste my money.

I really don't see anything special going on here that can't be done better with a few filters on expireddomains

 

[DomainVP]

I don't understand this.

They all use bots. I was hired by a service (that shall not be named) to determine the HD formula of what they were targeting.

I watched the zones, gathered a list everything HD acquired, analyzed it by search metrics and keywords.

Fun.

 

[dande]

you really think i will all day long search domains ,, my hands is the bot and he is very smart and still i need to tweek him but and i met someone very smart in domains he told me because rick sold x you think his domains that he founded by hand is so good, alot but alot of crap,,,,yehh giftdebt.com

domains like giftdebt.com my bot at last dont find
example giftgirlsonly.com
exoticgiftgirls.com
candytoygift.com
toysforgirls.com
topsweetgift.com
findgiftkids.com

if you was know how much combination out there i just more in 2 words domains

Can you do yourself a favor and calm your tits?

Register whatever your bot finds for you and get over with it, and stop causing everyone else troubles here with your endless ranting.

 

[james haw]

just ask smart coder he will tell what bots capable to do,,

Yes automated scripts are amazing and can be given a pre-determined goal and go off and produce some amazing results, without you having to further intervene. However, a domain searching bot is so much work to make and maintain for it to even be a tiny bit worthwhile you'll likely never reclaim your time spent making it - compared to just spending that time manually searching domain names yourself.

This is because you cannot just mash any verb and/or noun and/or any adjective and voila - a great name. Even doing this manually is incredibly tricky and people with domaining experience get it wrong all the time!

So you cannot code a bot to go off and find names that have good meaning with good combos because there is simply no pre-determined definition or matrix that exists that can determine a word combo that makes grammatical sense, let alone has value in the domain market. You cannot economically code such things!


You say your bot is amazing, but the results you have shown are low quality names, plus you are still manually sifting through the list your bot returns and spending a lot of your time anyway. This is not the point of bots etc should simplify our lives and reduce manual work.

From a business point of view you'd be better off spending your time manually evaluating the drops, at least then you can manually add filter criteria and find specific things with more potential for commercial value.


Even if you made an amazing bot, it only takes a few thousand people to use it for a while and most of the few unregistered "ok" names will be gone, then the bot is entirely useless as those names don't come back.

But as always, if it works for you then crack on. We're just debating it from our POV. It'd be interesting to see evidence of the ROI you are getting for your time spent vs sales etc.

 

[Dimitris]

@zeev yagorov do as you wish. It is your personal opinion. Have you sold in your lifetime any name or even names with real proof? Only if you can 100% answer this question with proofs you are allowed to say "your name is crap" or "flippa is a scam place". You even kind of said that NamePros is a scam place and you are not polite towards us. You did not even thank us for replying to you with our honest opinion.

You behavior just demonstrates narrow-mindness.

You can end this conversation by thanking us at least. We are not here for the likes.

We are here to share and exchange domaining knowledge, sales data, information, to network and be polite to each other with respect.

You are swearing in every post, spamming continuously.

Learn to discuss and listen first and then come here.

 

[DomainVP]

Which bot do you use and recommend?

Hey Stu,

I wrote a keyword analyzer (in python [linux]) to search for the most popular keywords in new daily registrations. Then I took a compiled list of the best selling keywords for domains, then I combine moderately trending keywords with successful domain combinations.

Example... if "Coin" is trending, okay so I look for RedCoin BlueCoin BlackCoin BestCoin NewCoin etc... but I have a spreadsheet with 300 Red[kw] cells that I just replace [kw] with the keyword.

I check these domains against the existing Zone file... if there are ones that have not been registered I will register them. Something the zone is not 100% accurate but that list of 300 gets dwindled down to about 5 or 10, and that's where your "money is".

I've registered strong IoT and VR domains this way (that received inquiries)... BUT... and this is a BIGGGGG BUT!

BUT... it's no easier or more profitable than just buying a good dn for $200-$500 and getting to work outbound. IMO

For a process like this to be effective you have to monitor the daily handregs EVERY DAY. It gets to be a pain, then you are just left with a difficult sales pitch to someone who sees that you just registered it.

MY OPINION is that these types of domains can be valuable long term 5 - 7 years + hold. But you have to keep an eye on them as well. If they term starts to pick up traction then dump the garbage that didn't become popular and keep your winner.

If you are looking for quick flips in $100 dollar bills that can be doable, but I'm thinking it's a lot of work. You may have a better process than myself so i guess it is worth a shot if this appeals to you.

Either way, that is my experience with this topic.

Cheers.

 

[NYJimbo]

Somebody needs a Xanax.

 

[Name Trader]

You may want to start your own thread in the available names section for the names your bot spits out instead of flooding others threads. Imo

I haven't checked every domain. but the ones I have checked have been registered for many, many years already.

 

[NYJimbo]

Gee, writing a bot that finds names that are already registered. How exciting. I could have bought a six pack for my crazy uncle and lend him a laptop for a few hours so he would end up doing the same thing, but I think paying for an app to do it is so much better.

 

[Dimitris]

some times I feel like a bot...

 

[Dimitris]

Have fun with lego available names. Lego has the most amount of UDRP complaints.

Look here: http://www.udrpsearch.com/search?query=lego&search=domain

 

[golan]

private porns.com

74000 searches per month

airflightjet
flythisjet
dotcarrent.....also dotrentcar

specificloan.com

rollslot.com or rollslots.com casino

xxxpornvip.com or xxxvipporn.com

topvipsex.com missileporn.com wepornos.com helpwithloans.com

getloanhome.com solarmission.com


mate this is the crap domains hhhh that the bot find

Precious AUTO cars .com crap

estatedomains.com is only available at auctions also exitdomains and balldomains

but geardomains.com and
FactoryDomain.com
preciousdomains.com
legodomain.com or legodomains

Sorry mate, no offense intended, but your domains have no sense and are the utmost crap.

To discover these ones, you dont need to pay crapload of moniez to any freelancer to write you a bot in Python. You just take dictionary lists, and put them into Excel, as @Dimitris said above, or even better into any keyword software, which you could have if you do SEO, and then check what you have in any Whois checker.

I agree that if you visually check a few thousand domains this way, you might find a couple of rather good ones. Beleive me, many people here tried this, but this is so much not worth our time.

 

[Dimitris]

1337.tech this your domains?????? mate what wrong with you i am serious now???

top tech Gadget.com -- this crap domain out perform all your domains and iam very serious
the latest tech.com
solar tech energy.com


its better you will hold this names they worth much more then all your domains for sure and go ask who you want but he need to know what is quality

gift for you
ClientCars.com
LovePrestige.com

This is a "dialect" understood by a select few in this world.

 

[PeakDots]

hhhhhh

hhhhhh

Just curious, what does this even mean?

 

[Joe N]

Wow! A secret societiy of high profile domainers using magical system AIs to generate millions of dollars of names out of thin air! Incredible!

Why are you wasting your time posting on here?? Go enjoy your millions of dollars!

 

[zeev yagorov]

Which bot do you use and recommend?

i built my bot with pyton, because to search domains by hand its to much time, and i still new in this biz and i know someone who live from this and he told its very hard game, but * with the right domains you see much faster results, he told me new people like me its much better to hold around 500 names which the price is around 15-50$, because for huge deals you need to wait.

good luck