.tv URL to check .tv premium renewal fee ...

[del.icio.us]

Can anyone tell me, what's the URL to check the .tv premium renewal fee?

 

[Abdulla]

http://www.enom.com/auctions/dotTV.asp?domain=SAMPLE.TV

 

[del.icio.us]

http://www.enom.com/auctions/dotTV.asp?domain=SAMPLE.TV

Thank you.

 

[bgmv]

what exactly are these .tv premium renewal fees? I thought it was just $29.99 per year?

 

[StargateCapital]

what exactly are these .tv premium renewal fees? I thought it was just $29.99 per year?

As of this post there are about 51,279 designated "Premium Domains". You can find them here:

http://www.enom.com/auctions/tv_names_browse.asp

And you can see renewal fees here:

http://www.enom.com/auctions/dotTV.asp?domain=news.tv

Just replace the domain name at the end of the above URL with ones of interest.

Regards,

CCD

 

[bgmv]

thanks alot cash! that answered my question.

 

[freedom30]

51,000+ premium names?

That leads to 2 questions, namely:

1.) What are they smokin'?

2.) Where can I git sum?

A lot of the names I saw are hand reg, and I saw a lot.

:D

 

[Ammudamus]

Is this link still working for names that are unavailable? Doesn't seem to display the renewal fees.

Thanks,
A

 

[Steven]

It looks like they are blocking the price for the ones that have been registered.

 

[DomainAgency.com]

Yes they have now changed this link so that if a name is registered there is no way to find out what the premium fees are unless you get the info directly from the domain holder.

 

[StargateCapital]

Interesting move...

CCD

 

[MillersCrossing]

Very interesting move............

I guess some one does not like others to know how much they negotiated a premium name for.......

Someone with alot of clout too, as this move affects the entire system carte blanche.....

Im glad I checked out how much HOT.TV is yesterday that is going under the hammer at the upcoming auction.......$62,500 per annum...

 

[SKG]

Yes they have now changed this link so that if a name is registered there is no way to find out what the premium fees are unless you get the info directly from the domain holder.

This is bad, very bad, imo. The extension requires transparency, imo to have a healthy aftermarket. Prior to the link being discovered, there was great uncertainty to placing bids on sedo or elsewhere. The link method helped greatly. Instead of going this route, they should be creating a public tool on their search page for everyone to use and see.

 

[Steven]

I agree with the ones who are concerned.
I think that the price of the registered premium domains should be shown as it will affect .TV investors in purchasing and selling of the names.

 

[StoneRoses]

This is bad, very bad, imo. The extension requires transparency, imo to have a healthy aftermarket. Prior to the link being discovered, there was great uncertainty to placing bids on sedo or elsewhere. The link method helped greatly. Instead of going this route, they should be creating a public tool on their search page for everyone to use and see.

:bingo: Why on earth would they do something like this?, you hit the nail on the head Sanchay,when you said "the extension requires transparency to have a healthy aftermarket".
This now places the emphasis on the person selling to be honest and upfront about the renewal fees, not everyone is going to tell people about the renewal fee, when selling to people unaware of the premium pricing,some unscrupulous people will use the pathetic excuse that" you never asked, so i didn't tell you".
I am really not impressesed with this move, IMO Godaddy have done more for DOT TV in the last few weeks than DM or Enom have done in the last few months.
Godaddy has come up with and implemented ideas which have taken .TV forward,while Enom/DM seem intent on doing all they can to stall the progress of .TV.
Quinn Daly if you are reading this, what exactly was the rational behind this move?
And exactly how do you think this latest brainwave will help .TV in general?.

Dot tv is hot at the moment but this appears to be despite Enom and DM marketing and not because of them. IMO

 

[equity78]

Well first off the first 8 years of the extension being marketed and open for registrations as "tv" did not have this feature, so I think it a little bit of a stretch to say that the extension will never be the same this feature was in place for less 4 months.

I think they did away with it because it was annoying to people thinking a premium was available then find out after logging in it was not available.

Now they can create a feature called check the renewal fee and that would be cool IMO but maybe not for Verisign because how do they explain why xxx.tv is $25 renewal and Travel.tv is $50 but oh stream is $100,000.

 

[StoneRoses]

Well first off the first 8 years of the extension being marketed and open for registrations as "tv" did not have this feature, so I think it a little bit of a stretch to say that the extension will never be the same this feature was in place for less 4 months.


I don't think the extension has ever been pushed this hard before,, a few years ago the technology was not around for WebtTV so .TV was always Tualva, now it is being marketed as Television and trying to attract the masses to .TV,so i think ,now more than ever ,the extension requires unequivical transparency,this was a great tool for checking the renewal and didn't require the seller to be honest, therefore taking away any uncertainty.

I think they did away with it because it was annoying to people thinking a premium was available then find out after logging in it was not available.

Not half as annoyed as people will be when they found out they bought a name which is $10k per year but the buyer told them it was $500

Now they can create a feature called check the renewal fee and that would be cool IMO but maybe not for Verisign because how do they explain why xxx.tv is $25 renewal and Travel.tv is $50 but oh stream is $100,000.

Exactly!, instead of addressing pricing issues ,lets cover them up instead.

As you know Eq i am no Enom DM basher, but i just think this is bad move IMO

 

[equity78]

No disrespect Bob but neither Idealab nor Verisign ever promoted .tv as tuvalu it has been promoted as TV for many years now.

It is a complicated issue pricing, because not only do you have premium pricing but all the deals and discounts made.

 

[MrRhee]

re: renewal prices not being displayed.

it is nobody's business but the owner of the domain name.
perhaps this was done to slow down the aftermarket and encourage more people to develop... to prevent/slowdown people from buying just to flip... to prevent new end-users/domainers/corporations from wondering why category killer domains only had $50-$500 renewals when less-than-stellar premiums cost $X,XXX-$XXX,XXX+

If someone spent 6 figures negotiating for a $50-$500 renewal on a premium name, it is nobody's business but their own.


IMHO
I don't feel comfortable posting my portfolio, or even certain .TV domains I own due to the fact that the renewal rate (and most-often original registration price) was readily available for the world to see. Now I feel a bit more comfortable and secure. i don't want others tallying up what I spend my money on. Even when I'm on EBAY and buying something a bit pricier, I buy under another name so that my friends/family/competitors/associates don't know what I'm spending my money on.


re: transparency for aftermarket sales & after-effect
if you're buying a premium, then ask the seller to PROVIDE proof, screenshot, Demand Media verbal verification, get signed contracts, etc of what renewal prices will be. Buyer be-aware & beware. Make sure you know what you are getting into. But this may also have a positive impact on the resale price of premium domains. There is a silver lining if you only look. Think big. Let me illustrate...

i.e. I registered a few premium .TVs for my "Business" & "Prosumer" network:

SEM.TV (internet)
PPC.TV (internet)
DNN.TV (intenet)
HUD.TV (real estate)
REO.TV (real estate)
ROI.TV (cross-industry)
LOW.TV (commerce)


quick case study: SEM.TV - I plan to aggregate all the SEM how-to videos (thousands) across the web, use as a news/info channel, conduct interviews, reviews, analysis and education. also, produce our own video content, provide B2B services, etc.

wikipedia for SEM:

In 2006, North American advertisers spent US$9.4 billion on search engine marketing, a 62% increase over the prior year and a 750% increase over the 2002 year. The largest SEM vendors are Google AdWords, Yahoo! Search Marketing and Microsoft adCenter.[1] As of 2006, SEM was growing much faster than traditional advertising.

If I was a domain seller, (I am a developer with no intention to sell the domains) and a buyer came along and saw what I paid for SEM.TV, how high would I be able to sell it for if the buyer found out I paid $WHATEVER$ amount? Would I get a 7 figure offer? No way. 6-figure offer? Of course not. But based on the wikipedia entry, SEM is a 9 BILLION DOLLAR market... and now, since my original domain registration cost is private... I have a stronger negotiation foundation... and can command and close on a much higher pricepoint.

I don't need anyone to believe what I'm saying, but I'm speaking from recent, real world experience, for day-to-day negotiations I've been in while trying to acquire domains and partner with domain owners, and from offers that have come my way from other domainers/endusers.

IMHO, and as it effects my business model, original premium Domain Registration prices & premium renewal rates being private is a step in the right direction. I hope it stays that way.

feel free to disagree, I like to hear it from all sides.

good luck to everyone.


EDIT:

I posted a poll regarding this subject, post some feedback and you might win 200NP$ from me. It is a valid discussion and I don't want to see it die without a better understanding from all sides.
http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/362074-no-way-check-renewal-prices-sold.html

Thanks.

 

[collar]

This little known back door link was hardly a suitable mechanism for a would-be buyer to confirm the true cost of ownership. Does buying a .TV have to be such a Wild West experience. Consumer Protection? The auction site (e.g. Sedo) should be held totally responsible for confirming that the true owner is advertising a domain with the true costs. That should also help them justify their "10%".

Does anyone know why the premium concept still exists?

It generates complexity, confusion and distrust and could be the barrier to investment that stops .TV owners, and Demand Media and Verisign, from catching the Internet TV train (will it travel via Tuvalu or xxxtv.com or xxx.iptv or any other alternative someone can dream of?).

Why doesn't Demand Media/Verisign just release premiums (as non-premiums) as flat price sales/auction. Existing premium holders should have an option to buy their liberty (e.g. equivalent to having paid 10 years premium). Then we have transparency and a fluid and open market. Unfinished projects/overpriced domains will be recycled quicker and put to a more postive use. Momentum will be swiftly gained making .TV the natural home for TV on the Web ... (and we all lived happily ever after)