Undeveloped.com Experience

[JudgeMind]

Has anyone used undeveloped.com to sell domains? They claim to be able to increase a domainers sales by 54%.

 

[vravis9]

Hi

I listed my domains on Sedo and Afternic marketplaces...and using all on undeveloped (nameservers)..

Now I got mail from Sedo for ownership verification... I think I will get one from Afternic too..
My doubt is how to verify it.. Sedo sent code to verify "txt record" in mail...

Can I do that in undeveloped itself?...

Do I need to do individually for all domains...these are from different registrars..

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance..

 

[golan]

Hi

I listed my domains on Sedo and Afternic marketplaces...and using all on undeveloped (nameservers)..

Now I got mail from Sedo for ownership verification... I think I will get one from Afternic too..
My doubt is how to verify it.. Sedo sent code to verify "txt record" in mail...

Can I do that in undeveloped itself?...

Do I need to do individually for all domains...these are from different registrars..

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance..

AFAIU, TXT records you manage at the registrar sides, it has nothing to do with Undev or any 3rd party site you point your NS records to.

Some registrars unfortunately don't allow you to create new TXT while you use custom NS; in this case, you turn the NS back to the original registrar's ones, then wait for Sedo/Afternic/GD/whatever verify them, and then put the NS back to Undev/whatever. Other registrar like Namebright are more advances / user friendly in this respect, you can add TXT when NS pointed outside.

 

[vravis9]

@golan thanks...

The verification of ownership is mandatory irrespective of listing for fast transfer benefits...like MLS / DLS or just normal listing...
Am I correct?

And is there any way or time span to tell when the verification is completed once I change nameservers..?! So that I can change back to my undeveloped account..

Thanks

 

[golan]

And is there any way or time span to tell when the verification is completed once I change nameservers..?!

In my experience, both Sedo and GD take from couple of hours to couple of days.

 

[vravis9]

In my experience, both Sedo and GD take from couple of hours to couple of days.

That's long time frame..

May be I just remove the names from Sedo/afternic and add when I updated the nameservers first with registered..I am thinking it will take less time...

 

[golan]

That's long time frame..

May be I just remove the names from Sedo/afternic and add when I updated the nameservers first with registered..I am thinking it will take less time...

I don't understand your logic... Why do you want to remove them? You can just list them there without parking.

And hey, this is somehow Undeveloped thread

 

[vravis9]

I don't understand your logic... Why do you want to remove them? You can just list them there without parking.

And hey, this is somehow Undeveloped thread

I don't need parking just want to list on Sedo/AN

Like you said it has to be done from registrars to verify ownership...nothi no to do with undeveloped/any I guess I have to update and wait for verification to be over quickly...


Thanks for suggestions

 

[DAN.COM]

Hi Reza, thanks for your response.

I do not think it will solve the issue, here's a hypothetical example of why.

I get an offer on name and I counter and send the buyer a message. It has been two days I have not received a response, my next move/message relies heavily on time it could be the time buyer sent his first offer or its just I want to followup after specific hours lets say 72.

In either case, a timestamp would be necessary for me to evaluate and plan my next move accordingly, I recently came across this situation when I went in to counter it just showed a date and I had no idea at what hour the message was sent by buyer although technically you could find out that through your emails but that's a pain and a mere timestamp along with date could solve this problem.

Hi Umer,

Got you, I think this is relatively easily doable. We'll have to figure something our UI/UX wise.

We're on it!

Kind regards,
Reza

 

[DAN.COM]

Hi

I listed my domains on Sedo and Afternic marketplaces...and using all on undeveloped (nameservers)..

Now I got mail from Sedo for ownership verification... I think I will get one from Afternic too..
My doubt is how to verify it.. Sedo sent code to verify "txt record" in mail...

Can I do that in undeveloped itself?...

Do I need to do individually for all domains...these are from different registrars..

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance..

Hi Vravis,

Unfortunately, that's not possible because you're using our Nameservers.

What I'd advice is to change back your nameservers to the standard records that your registrar offers and perform the txt verification at Sedo and Afternic first. Once you've done that, simply change back the nameservers to ours.

Kind regards,
Reza

 

[carob]

AFAIU, TXT records you manage at the registrar sides, it has nothing to do with Undev or any 3rd party site you point your NS records to.

Some registrars unfortunately don't allow you to create new TXT while you use custom NS; in this case, you turn the NS back to the original registrar's ones, then wait for Sedo/Afternic/GD/whatever verify them, and then put the NS back to Undev/whatever. Other registrar like Namebright are more advances / user friendly in this respect, you can add TXT when NS pointed outside.

At GD for example you can create DNS templates, so for example you have one using Godaddy's DNS but with the txt record that Sedo want and an A record of Undeveloped's IP address. Now you can verify at Sedo but the domain takes people to the Undeveloped landing page. Just means you can do it all in one step once you have the template set up to re-use with new domains.

 

[carob]

only appear to see this delay here on first access to a sale lander upon device reboot

Typically what that means is that after the first time it goes through the redirect., the browser remembers it and next time just goes direct to the target site. Usually it does that till you restart the browser, then it has to "relearn" the redirect.

 

[golan]

At GD for example you can create DNS templates, so for example you have one using Godaddy's DNS but with the txt record that Sedo want and an A record of Undeveloped's IP address. Now you can verify at Sedo but the domain takes people to the Undeveloped landing page. Just means you can do it all in one step one you have the template set up to re-use with new domains.

Still i don't see a reason, TXT verification by Sedo/GD takes hours to couple of days, after that you can change the NS back to Undev again. And A record could be a bit complicated to many domainers, NS is much easier

 

[carob]

I'm a little puzzled about how long offers are valid and the process of rejecting them.

A buyer is told their offer is binding for 7 days: https://undeveloped.com/help/buyer-guide :

How long is my offer valid?

Every offer is valid for a duration of 7 days.

Can't see a similar rule for sellers at https://undeveloped.com/help/seller-guide , and we can cancel an offer made to a buyer (presumably only if they have not accepted it). So what is the validity period for a seller-made offer or counter-offer? Or is it unlimited till you cancel it?

Very good to be able to cancel an offer you have made, I like that.

I'm not 100% clear on the meaning or implications of choosing to respond to an offer by "rejecting" it. Does that mean the offer is no longer binding? Is it just a way to invite a new counter-offer? Confusing.

 

[momentum]

I highly recommend Undeveloped.com for hosting your domain sales pages. Simon and Laszlo are fantastic! Can say enough good things about them.

 

[Jv1999]

I highly recommend Undeveloped.com for hosting your domain sales pages. Simon and Laszlo are fantastic! Can say enough good things about them.

I second and third this! I just closed another sail today w/ Undeveloped... this buyer wanted me to call them . They said they were interested in buying my domain... but then they expressed their concerns and doubts... and everything and even said "I don't know you." LOL. Like flat out said that.

So of course I told them that I'm using a broker (Undeveloped), but even then... they said they're not "going to throw money at a 'buy now' url link." They wanted to speak to the broker via phone.

So I gave them Undeveloped's number... and wow, I guess Laszlo and Simon and the rest have uber reassurance skills! Because the buyer quickly paid like within 1.5 hours after my phone call with them.

Undeveloped is truly amazing, and I'm so glad I found them! They take care of both buyer and seller. PayPal happens right after you push the domain into Undeveloped's escrow account.

Now I really do believe that the biggest reason why domain sailing is hard is because buyers don't trust the internet. We trust the internet because we live here. But most of our end users are brick-and-mortar people. Why would anyone throw $xxx at an internet URL? That was an epiphany for me. Should be for you too.

The good news is, Undeveloped is there to calm their fears and close that sail!

 

[ecomslice]

thanks for the info all. wish I had Clifford notes versus the hours i just spent reading this thread lol.
as of today I moved everything to Undeveloped. this is after 4 months of 100 hours a week research, learning, buying selling and trying to make the best decisions. I think this was one of those.

 

[myfavorite]

It seems there is a small hitch at Undeveloped website now. I was able to log but only the title of the website showing.

Every other places are blank.

I just checked now and it's working well.

 

[momentum]

as of today I moved everything to Undeveloped. this is after 4 months of 100 hours a week research, learning, buying selling and trying to make the best decisions. I think this was one of those.

Out of curiosity, what other solutions were you considering?

 

[xeroox]

Reading all the comments @Undeveloped, wouldn't be better to add a button " call a broker " to the landing page, testing few months and see if it increase the % conversion drastically?

 

[ecomslice]

Out of curiosity, what other solutions were you considering?

My thoughts are :

Godaddy is most branded in the industry to the average joe, so having most hosted there has a big internal search benefit and interaction of trust for a novice buyer.

Afternic and Sedo is a no brainier for their internal network sale potential

Then to what is said to be the best form of advertising itself, the domain name itself.

most say have your own landers, I will long term but for nowI think 9% for a corporation middle man to represent trust and authority is a steal , that along with quality appearance and platform options.
and what is obvious the willing for constant attempt to make everyone happy, which is impossible.

I do not see a better option till one is ready to represent professional website with trust , authority, and excellent mediation skill. and even then your likely still relying on a service like escrow.

all in my humble opinion.