.tv .TV and using Hyphens

[SKG]

Ok, I would like to know what the general consensus is on hyphens in terms of development. My first question would be what is the impact of a hyphen on SEO for any experts in seo out there, two keywords divided by a hyphen??

My second is not so much a question but an observation regarding google ads and urls with hyphens in them. I would think that if you are developing a domain whereby you will drive traffic to it via adwords and did not own the the generic compounded word, then the next best thing visually would be buying the hyphen. For example, let use a hyphen I just saw in a thread owned by EQ, Cayman-Islands.tv, a great domain, imo. If I saw this url in a google ad on the right side of a search page I would be more tempted to click it than lets say TravelCaymanIslands.com because the hyphen is the closest to the root and shows visually more authority. Am I correct in this observation?? So if I am a developer and could not get my hands on the root CaymanIslands.tv and wanted to drive traffic via google ads then the best option would be to purchase a hyphen, correct or not?

Looking for any thoughts on this. Sorry EQ I used your domain as an example but I think it has a lot of potential to an end user and thought processes like this have not really been explored. I think there is actual merit in purchasing a hyphen domain depending on factors like I have pointed about above that we should all consider.

 

[localexperts]

I rarely type in a keyword and see one on top or even on the front page.

If it isn't easy to brand and I get little SEO bump, then I don't see the value.

That said, I do own a couple so that I can "test" it for myself and defense.

 

[equity78]

No problem Sanchay and that domain sold here after Frank did not want it for $70 I believe I auctioned with a choice of 3 and the winner chose Cayman-Islands.tv

Hyphens show up the same the results for UK and U-K are the same its why I regged U-K.tv UK.tv $10,000 a year vs $300 a year now this is a little different then two words. I see a lot of companies will use a - especially to save money over the LLL its why we have a big thread about L-L-L.com in domain discussion it is amazing how many developed domains using L-L-L.com. SO I think a company may want their Initials for $300 instead of $1000 to $10,000.

Now you make a good point if you are developing and seeing an ad a 1 - does look authoritative IMO

 

[del.icio.us]

Hyphens do not affect the SE indexing in any way. Most of the search engines capable of index a hyphened name which is equivalent to a non-hyphened name.

As per the regular usage statistics, some words really need the hyphens.

ecommerce is not better than e-commerce
tshirt is not better than t-shirt, imho

Regarding the geo names, definitely hyphened geo names are much better than the over priced premium geo.tv names, again imho.

 

[localexperts]

IMHO only Winston-Salem.tv

.TV gets very little type in, so the value is branding.

IMHO KansasCity.tv is better than Kansas-City.tv (which I do own only to protect my KC.tv domain and to conduct SEO research)

Kansas hyphen City dot TV - its harder to brand than

KanasCity dot TV

 

[PVFARKAS]

i'm pro-hyphen, but i heard SE's start to penalize double+ hyphenated words.

I don't want to confuse this thread, I like it a lot, but... what's the concensus on SE and these... afterall both are about getting some SE traffic and less about branding..?

cayman-islands.tv
caymanislandstv.tv

 

[del.icio.us]

I have these:

Nueva-York.TV (Hyphened variant of NewYork.TV in Spanish)

I took this because the non-hyphened name is a $5000/Yr premium.

Sao-Paulo.TV

 

[benzdorf]

manhattan-realestate ?

What do you cats think in regardes to manhattan-realestate verses manhatanrealestate ?!@# Personaly I like the manhattan-realestate better because its instintaniously more legeable..

Im toying with the idea of regging more hyphinated realestates..

 

[hullswingerscom]

what about peoples names
elvispresley.tv v elvis-presley.tv
i see frank-sinatra.tv is avalable so maybe best without

 

[PVFARKAS]

are they getting any traffic?