Toby Clements

[kerwin]

Has anyone ever sold a domain through this guy? I've had a few of my domains listed with his newsletter, but never with any success.

His prices are often inflated, but he does make some sales (supposedly). I would be interested in seeing some examples.

 

[lennco]

I have listed with him several times now but I haven't sold anything with him yet.
I have never thought that his prices were inflated if anything I think his prices are kinda low.
Most of the time he wants me to reduce the prices I send him.

 

[Name Trader]

I'm glad to hear you guys are getting on so well with Toby. Every domain I send him he rejects without any reasoning, and yet I see worse domains listed than the rejected ones I send him. He never asks for a price reduction but rejects everything else out of hand. Ether I'm doing something wrong, or he is. I haven't sent him any domains recently.

 

[lennco]

Believe me he has also turned down a lot of mine.
I know he doesn't like brandables, he only likes keyword rich domains.
So far I have listed 9 names with him, 3 just in the last week. No offers yet.
His newsletter has a 175k subscribers so it always worth a try

 

[zapdaddy]

I believe sometimes with Toby and Rick before him they will run somewhat inferior names along with premium names by the same domainer.

 

[twomoon]

I heard about the guy, who knew the other guy, who's girlfriend's brother sold once a domain thru newsletter

 

[zapdaddy]

Looks like he had the #6 domain on DNJ this year at 325K. Not too shabby

 

[lennco]

Looks like he had the #6 domain on DNJ this year at 325K. Not too shabby

And the
#23 $148k
#29 $125k
#34 $120k

 

[Embrand]

Takes him ages to pay you for sold domains, just as was the case with his old partner, former used-car salesman Rick Latona.

I recommend using Andrew Rosener of MediaOptions.com instead. Much more professional. He replies to your inquires fast and politely and pays promptly.

Just my experience anyway...

 

[Angelicus]

He is selling high end names to high end clients

kerwin:

I would be interested in seeing some examples

Some of the Toby Clements newsletter sales
source: DNjournal

2012
DiamondDistrict.com 25,000
Leo.com $120,000
YG.com $125,000
BJ.com $325,000
Frame.com $148,000 co-brokered by Toby and MediaOptions
Deny.com $10,000
Omit.com $10,000
Goon.com $8,000

2011
MutualFunds.org $15,000
Bulbs.net $10,000
MarketReport.com $15,000

 

[DomainTalker]

He is selling high end names to high end clients

kerwin:


Some of the Toby Clements newsletter sales
source: DNjournal

2012
DiamondDistrict.com 25,000
Leo.com $120,000
YG.com $125,000
BJ.com $325,000
Frame.com $148,000 co-brokered by Toby and MediaOptions
Deny.com $10,000
Omit.com $10,000
Goon.com $8,000

2011
MutualFunds.org $15,000
Bulbs.net $10,000
MarketReport.com $15,000

Toby sold both Deny.com & Omit.com for me.

My own feeling about the newsletter approach (and I may be wrong) is that I'm sure the VAST majority of recipients are other domainers, with a sprinkling of domain-savvy website owners, and maybe just a few real end-users - so, it'd be rare to sell at a top price.

These brokers work well if you want to offload domains that do say something, and which are priced competitively....but not if you have top domains, and seek a very top price, imo.


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[twomoon]

Toby sold both Deny.com & Omit.com for me.

My own feeling about the newsletter approach (and I may be wrong) is that I'm sure the VAST majority of recipients are other domainers, with a sprinkling of domain-savvy website owners, and maybe just a few real end-users - so, it'd be rare to sell at a top price.

These brokers work well if you want to offload domains that do say something, and which are priced competitively....but not if you have top domains, and seek a very top price, imo.


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Oh Boy! You own a boy.com

+1 about the brokers. There are many brokers out there (even Sedo has it's own brokers - there was an example of Sedo broker email somewhere - very funny example). I "know" only 2 brokers that are actually contacting endusers (one of them is not in a business right now as I understood).

 

[Angelicus]

I'm sure the VAST majority of recipients are other domainers, with a sprinkling of domain-savvy website owners, and maybe just a few real end-users - so, it'd be rare to sell at a top price

I agree, but still if you have a clients ready to pay six figures it counts.

 

[FX]

it's funny - when I was buying my ll.com and needed fast cash I emailed and asked for these to be listed

.com

sued
iXXX
Gaps

and they were not listed - I later sold them in the high $xx,xxx range - not used his or asked for his service again nor will I list my pension fund domains there.

 

[Jeffrey]

He was probably reluctant or he might get sued. :D

iXXX - could be an adult name for him, and he avoids it.

Gaps - maybe a TM? with similar to Gap (clothing brand)

Just my 2 cents.

it's funny - when I was buying my ll.com and needed fast cash I emailed and asked for these to be listed

.com

sued
iXXX
Gaps

and they were not listed - I later sold them in the high $xx,xxx range - not used his or asked for his service again nor will I list my pension fund domains there.

 

[kerwin]

it's funny - when I was buying my ll.com and needed fast cash I emailed and asked for these to be listed

.com

sued
iXXX
Gaps

and they were not listed - I later sold them in the high $xx,xxx range - not used his or asked for his service again nor will I list my pension fund domains there.

If he did not send you a rejection letter, then most likely a) he did not receive your e-mail or b) his reply did not not reach you. I'm 100% certain that he would list each of those domains without hesitation today.

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iXXX - could be an adult name for him, and he avoids it.

Toby seems to have no qualms about listing non-explicit adult domains.

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I'm glad to hear you guys are getting on so well with Toby. Every domain I send him he rejects without any reasoning, and yet I see worse domains listed than the rejected ones I send him. He never asks for a price reduction but rejects everything else out of hand. Ether I'm doing something wrong, or he is. I haven't sent him any domains recently.

He's not as good as evaluating domains as he thinks he is. Some of the domains he lists in his newsletter for mid-high XX,XXX make little sense from an end user perspective. Furthermore, his indiscriminate love for generics is laughable. I'd much rather have a good brandable domain for my blog than OpinionColumn.com (one of his recent listings).

 

[buohcom]

I have sold a few domains with Toby. So his newsletter does work.
But I also listed other domains numerous times and not a single bite.

It's worth a try.

 

[JoeBiz]

I've dealt with Toby and brother David. The story I've heard was that Rick dumped David a few years back and David has been riding on Toby's coat tails since.

Toby knows a few people. Big deal. That's only a function of being in the business for a long time and leaving a long, long trail of pissed off people in his wake.

In my opinion they are both immoral and live on the edge of unethical. It's also my opinion that you should stay as far away from the Clements boys as possible. There are many good brokers out there.