Three word names w/big overture

[markfromslo]

I know three word names are not great. However, what if the three words are made up of three of the top 5 or 6 overture search results for a word, and these searches have numbers in the many tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands? Worth buying?

 

[capiche]

Does it have OVT with all 3 words together or just each seperate word has OVT?

 

[markfromslo]

Does it have OVT with all 3 words together or just each seperate word has OVT?

Yes, some of the names I purchased have all the words in search results together.

Here's an example, assuming the key word is "Widgets":

Widgets: 800,000
FreeDailyWidgets.com: 8000
DailyOnlineWidgets.com 4700
FreeDailyWidgetsOnline: 4200

So, are these valuable even though three words?

How about the four word name?

Do the words have to be in the same order as Overture shows them? (I know they need to be in an order that makes sense).

What about a name like WidgetsNow.com. "now" is not a major search term and "Widgets Now" turns up maybe 100. But, it's short and "Widgets " does have 800,000. Instinctively, it seems like the shorter one would be worth more. Is that the case?

 

[markfromslo]

Anyone? This is pretty important to me right now as I have to price some names. Any comments are much appreaciated.

 

[capiche]

Well, when it comes to 3 word domains, you still have to go back to how many letters are in them. Even if the domain makes a lot of sense, if it's too long, people just won't type it in. I've seen some very good 3 worders.
For instance, look at the OVT on "Reverse Phone Lookup", it's over 200,000. I still think that's a little too long, but that's the kind of OVT you need for a 3 worder to be successfull, IMO. It's the only kind of 3 worder I would register.
I won't even consider any name much anymore if it doesn't have at least 10,000 or more OVT, and even then it has to be as short as possible.

Also, it would seem really hard to brand a 3 worder, (there are exceptions of course, i.e. FreeCreditReport.com)... so again, you're best hope is for type-in traffic, otherwise development is the only option to increase value.

 

[markfromslo]

So FreeDailyWidgets.com with 8,000 OVT,and assuming Widgets was a quickly growing market, would be a possibility, right? I know it's on the borderline, but if the field is really getting hotter and the name is pretty short (like this one), it's probably worth a reg it sounds like.

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Also, does OVT count when you have a three word name that is part of a OVT four letter search result.

For example, let's say I keyed in "Free Daily Widgets". the results show:

Free Daily Widgets Game 20,000
Free Daily Widgets 4,000

Do I only look at the 4,000 since that is the exact match? Or can I look at the 20,000 since my three words are within those four? This seems like an important question I need to understand.

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Here's a related question: what if the higest two word combo was "Free Wdigets", with OVT in the hundreds of thousands. If FreeWidgets.com make the most sense for readabiliy, and WidgetsFree.com (assume it's worst than this example) does not make as much sense, does the second best order of the two words still have value just for the search capability?

Another example would be PuzzlesCrosssword.com, verus the much better CrosswordPuzzles.com.com. Would DogPets.com still have value if overture is in the xxx,xxx?

 

[capiche]

No, Overture a lot times puts search terms out of order. Say you searched "pet dog" and it returned "dog pet" = 5,000. Well, It doesn't really mean "dog pet" gets that many searches. If you do the search again as "dog pet" you will see that Overture switches it back to "pet dog". You have to use your common sense sometimes with Overture.
A good way to check is just to go to Google and try both terms with apostrophes " " . The one with the most results is the correct term.

Also, I said, That I won't even consider a "regular" one word or two word domain unless it has 10,000 or more Overture. There's no way I would register a 3 worder unless it had very high Overture, like I mentioned "Reverse Phone Lookup" has. In your case you have a 3 word term with only 8,000 OVT. I probably wouldn't register it, unless I had solid plans for development for it. And even then, I would be weary.

And, IMO, 4 word domains are just out of the question altogether.

Do I only look at the 4,000 since that is the exact match? Or can I look at the 20,000 since my three words are within those four? This seems like an important question I need to understand.

You only go with the Overture for the exact match.

 

[markfromslo]

Okay, thanks. So, if PetDogs.com (the better name) were taken, you'd consider DogPets.com if it had high OVT even if it made much sense?

I see lot of nonsensically worded names like RealityVirtual.com instead of VirtualReality.com and wonder if these names are actually saleable due soley on their OVT.

 

[capiche]

Okay, thanks. So, if PetDogs.com (the better name) were taken, you'd consider DogPets.com if it had high OVT even if it made much sense?

I see lot of nonsensically worded names like RealityVirtual.com instead of VirtualReality.com and wonder if these names are actually saleable due soley on their OVT.

If PetDogs.com were taken, no I wouldn't even consider "DogPets.com" because it doesn't make any sense. Like I said, The Overture shown is for "pet dogs" not "dog pets"... even if Overture has it worded that way.
The best thing to do is to just fool around with Overture more and you'll see what I'm talking about. It will give "backward" results a lot of times.

and wonder if these names are actually saleable due soley on their OVT.

Never base a domain's value completely on Overture. It's just one of many tools to help you decide.

There are just too many variables to go into, when it's been covered so many times before. I suggest you look at RJ's site. www.namenewbie.com