discuss Those were the days, my friend...

[frank-germany]

those were the days my friend ..
I thought the'd never end....

 

[xynames]

wow that's excellent, is that from individual sites or from parking sites?

Individual sites is plural. Parking sites is plural. ?

Are you asking a question or saying the same thing.

My figures are for all my sites. Plural. But looking back I had less sites ppc parked to bring in around $200 a day than I have now to bring in $200. - $300. a month.

When it comes to ppc parking - less definitely used to be much more!

 

[The Durfer]

that's the answer I was looking for thx.

Individual sites is plural. Parking sites is plural. ?

Are you asking a question or saying the same thing.

My figures are for all my sites. Plural.

 

[namemarket]

Not dead, but for me it's couple hundred a month now (sometimes three) versus couple hundred a day in the old days.

That's exactly what I experienced.

 

[~ The 34 Year Buzz!!]

When 'history repeats' and modern parking is born will you be ready?

 

[namemarket]

When 'history repeats' and modern parking is born will you be ready?

I have no idea what you are referring to and do not see how it can possibly recover.

 

[alcy]

I feel the pain big time! For roughly 8 years with 2007 being the midpoint my monthly statements were similar but not quite as good as yours, more like 7 to 9k month on average month after month year after year.

So good all i needed to do was hand reg most any 2, 3 or 4 word keyword name in any financial category to start making money on it every day like magic. It was like taking candy from a baby.

Because of that revenue I never even tried to sell domains for a decade. Now PPC is down 97%, that's not a typo, it's really only 3% of that level. I think I had a similar number to you on ppc at the time, somewhere from 1,000 to 2,000 if I remember correctly. It's so bad now sometimes I don't bother to try and monetize.

with comments like this one, it sure sounds like 2000-2010 has made thousands upon thousands of brand new domainer millionaires... I hope you guys didn't spend it all partying.

 

[~ The 34 Year Buzz!!]

I have no idea what you are referring to....

Yes, that is correct.
Who is currently offering parking and domain development related to the pot Gold-Rush in Canada (including travel,
skiing,
fishing,
hunting,
ATV's,
restaurants,
camping,
night life,
concerts,
comedy clubs, etc), and many other "modern" opportunities outside of Canada?

...and do not see how it can possibly recover.

I do, but am not currently allowed to tell the details in public since they sound "overly promotional".

 

[Jay Ha]

Well this explains all those mega sales around that time. Example:
Domain Price Date Venue
sex.com 14,000,000 USD 2005-01-01 Private
sex.com 13,000,000 USD 2010-11-24 Sedo

I can only imagine the amount of PPCs this domain alone had generated throughout those ~6 years. It justifies the 1 million dollars it sold for less. I bet they profited waaay more to cover this 'loss'.

Lesson is never look into 2007-ish sales as comparables. I learn something new everyday in this industry (although this might be crystal clear for veteran domainers).

 

[trap3]

Back in the Spring I put a few hundred domains on Sedo parking. I had a couple days of $20 traffic and they banned me from parking because they thought I must be scamming them.

Times have changed ...

HAHAHA.

Sedo, are a bunch of bandits IMO. You scamming them ? haha.
Thats rich.

I had 639 clicks (CTR 47%) on a few domains over last 12 months there.
I earned.......................................... 19c !!

Last 31 days 53 uniques and not a single click.

 

[alcy]

yeah... sedo is definitely the last place you wanna be parking at... not sure how things were there some years back...

looks like they just take a much bigger cut of your park rev than other companies.. like PC.. bodis.. voodooo..

 

[biggie]

Lesson is never look into 2007-ish sales as comparables. I learn something new everyday in this industry (although this might be crystal clear for veteran domainers).

that's good observation to note, if you're an "old sales price digger"

most newbies just look at the sale price to find a comparable and don't consider the "sign of the times" for that time period.

but back on the parking note

I still have some names that earned good income circa 2006 > 2007 and even though they don't earn same amounts today, I did notice that a few are earning same or higher EPC , while the EPC on some others have slipped due to decreased ad budgets.

decreasing type-in traffic is much lower too, which accounts for less revenue.

but even with all that, it ain't dead yet

 

[alcy]

that being said.. there are still revenue domains buyers (and sellers) on np..

I saw a guy post a few names over last few days here.. he priced them 3 times annual revenue.. I think they were all around 100/year each.

and they sold within few hours.

he provided 12 month revenue pics.

I suppose thats not an unreasonable deal.. for both seller and buyer.

or is it.....

personally.. I own.. around 30-40 revenue names basically all acquired on np.. minus couple lucky regs that I regged for name value.. not parking.. on a good month.. they make me all total of $100... maybe $50 on a bad month. my total investment in them was about 1000$

but I hesitate to invest more money into parking domains.. I mean to wait 2-5 years just to get your initial investment back is a bit long no? a lot of things can happen during that time.. parking overall can decrease your %cut across all companies.. or.. your backlinks can start to die on those names.. trafic decrease etc..

so I try to stick to only 1 year revenue cost deals.. but those are hard ot find I guess...

 

[ecomslice]

Can any of you Kings of years experience and open minded thinking please comment on my thoughts.

One " King " told me in my first days ( 4 months ago ) that the key to current Parking was MASKING
i have a couple theories, any thoughts ....

- example my coiture in King that gets 673000 searches per month , maybe some unique style of masking with a ranking domain could create traffic ? ?
or what was this masking / parking strategy that I cant dig up ?

That is all, appreciate any and all comments of input. just a newbie trying to think outside the boxx

 

[biggie]

I saw a guy post a few names over last few days here.. he priced them 3 times annual revenue.. I think they were all around 100/year each.
and they sold within few hours.

I suppose thats not an unreasonable deal.. for both seller and buyer.

or is it.....

the deal is in:

if the seller got their investment back ….and if
the buyer purchased a domain that will likely earn it's roi within an acceptable period.

some will sell when revenue is on decline
and some will sell soon after acquiring, while the income is steady

just gotta know when and what to buy.

but I hesitate to invest more money into parking domains.. I mean to wait 2-5 years just to get your initial investment back is a bit long no? a lot of things can happen during that time..

.

sure, lot can happen
like maybe the traffic goes up on one of your names because of a social event or new product

I think if you make $50 > $100 a month in ppc, that's $600 > $1,200 a year.
@ average renewal cost of $10, one could renew 60 to 120 domains in their portfolio

if you spent 1k for 40 names, then the returns look all good to me.

imo….

 

[Bob Hawkes]

An interesting thread. Thanks @frank-germany for reminding us of the good times many of us missed!

The idea that @Jay Ha expressed that maybe domain name prices were higher back then because expected revenue also much higher.

Would be interesting to know what fraction of domain names currently registered can pay for their annual expenses

• based on simple parking with a smart choice re parking venue, or
• with a simple few page mini site

Clearly if you can make a domain name pay for its annual costs then risk is taken out of the equation, and it is easier to hold out for good prices.

-Bob

 

[frank-germany]

An interesting thread. Thanks @frank-germany for reminding us of the good times many of us missed!

The idea that @Jay Ha expressed that maybe domain name prices were higher back then because expected revenue also much higher.

-Bob

all handregs
prices similar to todays

 

[NameCharger]

@frank-germany those were the days indeed! Parked was great. There was another parking provider, I think the name was Revenue Direct or something like that. They paid well too.

You know you're banking when you're using RPM and CPM as your primary metrics.

 

[namemarket]

They all paid very well for almost a 10 year span, it was not just parked.com who preceded voodoo.com but many others too including Traffic Z, Adsense and the old Yahoo Publisher Network.

 

[biggie]

all handregs
prices similar to todays

yeah Frank

using the overture tool, in those days, one could hand-reg their way to prosperity

I still have a few names regged back then that had ovt w/ext. which continue to pay their renewal fee

@frank-germany those were the days indeed! Parked was great. There was another parking provider, I think the name was Revenue Direct or something like that. They paid well too.

They all paid very well for almost a 10 year span, it was not just parked.com who preceded voodoo.com but many others too including Traffic Z, Adsense and the old Yahoo Publisher Network.

back when yahoo was king of search engines, many other ppc's were filling the coffers.

not only parked, but sedo was holding it's own too
then there was goldkey.com (now smartname), and fabulous.com which now feeds from parking crew had nice templates of it's own and paid very well for poker/casino gambling names.

domainsponsor.com aka information.com, paid nice epc's for very long time and there were others like namedrive who also had colorful templates were acquired by PC.

from just sedo and ds alone, we pocketed six figs in ppc

some others included parkingpanel, parkingplace, domainhop, whypark, etc

I was dippin' my names in every one of these pools at one time or another.



imo...

 

[DT13]

Everyone should just start using duckduckgo instead of google. At Duckduck the key word you are looking for is at the top of the searchlist. Domain names will then become more important and give more parking revenues.

 

[.X.]

yeah Frank

using the overture tool, in those days, one could hand-reg their way to prosperity

I still have a few names regged back then that had ovt w/ext. which continue to pay their renewal fee






back when yahoo was king of search engines, many other ppc's were filling the coffers.

not only parked, but sedo was holding it's own too
then there was goldkey.com (now smartname), and fabulous.com which now feeds from parking crew had nice templates of it's own and paid very well for poker/casino gambling names.

domainsponsor.com aka information.com, paid nice epc's for very long time and there were others like namedrive who also had colorful templates were acquired by PC.

from just sedo and ds alone, we pocketed six figs in ppc

some others included parkingpanel, parkingplace, domainhop, whypark, etc

I was dippin' my names in every one of these pools at one time or another.



imo...

heheheheheh, Hell yeah, GoldKey was the shit, their one-click lander brought me much joy! Monetization was so awesome, the relevance to the name and niche was so damn precise.

ParkingPanel was my Adult Name playground, great advertisers, awesome ctr ratio, i don't even own any adult names anymore lol

 

[Trent1000]

Everyone should just start using duckduckgo instead of google. At Duckduck the key word you are looking for is at the top of the searchlist. Domain names will then become more important and give more parking revenues.

That is exactly right.
My few week old amazon affiliate site, in a highly competitive niche on DuckDuckGo is #3 on page number 1 due to the domain name itself. In google it's just started to rank to a very low competition long tail keyword, and even that is around page 5 or 6.
The difference however, while DuckDuckGo has some 25 million searches a day, Google has 3.5 billion.

Although I can only encourage everybody to use duckduckgo instead of google, they are slowly but surely growing.

 

[biggie]

Although I can only encourage everybody to use duckduckgo instead of google, they are slowly but surely growing.

and before they grow too big, they might get bought out by google



imo….

 

[Trent1000]

and before they grow too big, they might get bought out by google



imo….

 

[namemarket]

Back in the ppc hey-days (which lasted nearly 10-years) sometimes you could earn as much as $50 or more for one single click. or even higher for good keywords in a high paying niche. In fact, I recall the top keyword was said to be Mesothelioma which could pay over $100 a click.