The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[Namersen]

Show me the stats that say no masks are better than wearing masks. For this pandemic, 2020.

We've been posting them in this thread, with graphics and links, I'll try to group some of them in one post.

 

[JB Lions]

We've been posting them in this thread, with graphics and links, I'll try to group some of them in one post.

Well, what you linked to - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

Says wear masks, do it correctly.

The other one you linked to wasn't masks vs. no masks. It was:

"cloth masks resulted in a higher risk of respiratory infections compared with medical masks."

cloth masks vs. medical masks

That some people don't follow directions and do it correctly, doesn't mean don't wear masks. It means wear them correctly.

 

[Namersen]

That some people don't follow directions and do it correctly, doesn't mean don't wear masks. It means wear them correctly.

Are you for example sufficiently trained to follow these? Quote:
Protocols in healthcare settings for donning (putting on) and doffing (taking off) masks ensure the wearer does not contaminate the mask with germs. These protocols are impossible in the general public environment. Therefore, the general public are wearing contaminated (dirty) fabric over their airway.
Germs can grow on the mask to a high enough number to become infectious (infectious dose). The mask incubates the germs you deposit from your unclean (dirty) hands every time you adjust it and picks up germs from every unclean (dirty) surface it touches.
The four requirements for bacteria and fungi to grow (incubate and colonize) are:
1. Heat (your body temperature)
2. Moisture (vapour in your breath)
3. Food (skin cells, oil, food particles)
4. UV protection (darkness inside the mask)

 

[JB Lions]

Are you for example sufficiently trained to follow these? Quote:
Protocols in healthcare settings for donning (putting on) and doffing (taking off) masks ensure the wearer does not contaminate the mask with germs. These protocols are impossible in the general public environment. Therefore, the general public are wearing contaminated (dirty) fabric over their airway.
Germs can grow on the mask to a high enough number to become infectious (infectious dose). The mask incubates the germs you deposit from your unclean (dirty) hands every time you adjust it and picks up germs from every unclean (dirty) surface it touches.
The four requirements for bacteria and fungi to grow (incubate and colonize) are:
1. Heat (your body temperature)
2. Moisture (vapour in your breath)
3. Food (skin cells, oil, food particles)
4. UV protection (darkness inside the mask)

I know how to read, the recommendation is to wear masks. If they felt it was doing more harm than good, they would not be recommending that, would they.

 

[mr-x]

Ah, I guess I won't be voting for Hunter Biden this election then.

Who do you think he was laundering money for? What influence did he use to get an interest free loan to buy shares in a company controlled by the CCP? ( reportedly )

Your lack of curiosity after four years of accusing Trump's family of being corrupt would be astonishing if I didn't know who you were.

 

[Namersen]

I know how to read, the recommendation is to wear masks. If they felt it was doing more harm than good, they would not be recommending that, would they.

We've been pointing to disagreements in the scientific community, to say the least.

 

[JB Lions]

Who do you think he was laundering money for? What influence did he use to get an interest free loan to buy shares in a company controlled by the CCP? ( reportedly )

Your lack of curiosity after four years of accusing Trump's family of being corrupt would be astonishing if I didn't know who you were.

Not Joe Biden. There is nothing on him. I think his messed up kid was just name dropping to con/business purposes. Even Tucker is falling back now.

 

[mr-x]

Are you for example sufficiently trained to follow these? Quote:
Protocols in healthcare settings for donning (putting on) and doffing (taking off) masks ensure the wearer does not contaminate the mask with germs. These protocols are impossible in the general public environment. Therefore, the general public are wearing contaminated (dirty) fabric over their airway.
Germs can grow on the mask to a high enough number to become infectious (infectious dose). The mask incubates the germs you deposit from your unclean (dirty) hands every time you adjust it and picks up germs from every unclean (dirty) surface it touches.
The four requirements for bacteria and fungi to grow (incubate and colonize) are:
1. Heat (your body temperature)
2. Moisture (vapour in your breath)
3. Food (skin cells, oil, food particles)
4. UV protection (darkness inside the mask)

Dentists are warning about the health issues tied to prolonged use of a mask to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

They said dental problems associated with "mask mouth," including gum disease, could lead to serious complications.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ged-use-of-masks-leading-to-poor-oral-hygiene

 

[JB Lions]

We've been pointing to disagreements in the scientific community, to say the least.

CDC, WHO, Surgeon General, all legit scientists, doctors, virologists etc. say to wear masks. If they were doing more harm than good, they would not be saying that.

 

[JB Lions]

Dentists are warning about the health issues tied to prolonged use of a mask to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

They said dental problems associated with "mask mouth," including gum disease, could lead to serious complications.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ged-use-of-masks-leading-to-poor-oral-hygiene

New York Post story. mr-x still making traitorous posts.

 

[mr-x]

Not Joe Biden. There is nothing on him. I think his messed up kid was just name dropping to con/business purposes. Even Tucker is falling back now.

Joe said he never spoke with Hunter about his business. Joe's son and brother are involved but Joe knows nothing? What kind of V.P. doesn't know his son has taken a loan from a communist?

Does that pass the common sense test to you? What about the witness saying otherwise?

 

[JB Lions]

Joe said he never spoke with Hunter about his business. Joe's son and brother are involved but Joe knows nothing? What kind of V.P. doesn't know his son has taken a loan from a communist?

Does that pass the common sense test to you? What about the witness saying otherwise?

There is nothing on Joe.

And did you just say common sense test? Really?

Feel free to take this apart line by line:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-usa-political-thread.764342/page-2864#post-8011874

 

[Namersen]

CDC, WHO, Surgeon General, all legit scientists, doctors, virologists etc. say to wear masks. If they were doing more harm than good, they would not be saying that.

They would, and cover their behinds in legalese (of course you have to wear them correctly, duh!)

 

[mr-x]

Not good.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1322272195259891713

 

[JB Lions]

They would, and cover their behinds in legalese (of course you have to wear them correctly, duh!)

Well, you just went to conspiracy land. Apparently all the experts/studies in the world are lying.

 

[Namersen]

Well, you just went to conspiracy land. Apparently all the experts/studies in the world are lying.

We've shown you in this thread that not all the expert/studies in the world are lying. You're at it with the strawman again.

 

[JB Lions]

We've shown you in this thread that not all the expert/studies in the world are lying. You're at it with the strawman again.

It's not a strawman, look how you responded.

I said:
CDC, WHO, Surgeon General, all legit scientists, doctors, virologists etc. say to wear masks. If they were doing more harm than good, they would not be saying that.

You replied:
They would, and cover their behinds in legalese (of course you have to wear them correctly, duh!)

Then as I pointed out, the one link you posted was about cloth vs. medical masks. Not what we're talking about.

 

[mr-x]

There is nothing on Joe.

And did you just say common sense test? Really?

Feel free to take this apart line by line:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-usa-political-thread.764342/page-2864#post-8011874

You list of reasons not to trust the contents of the laptop are not convincing, since it's been verified to belong to Hunter Biden.

"Then, magically they lose the only copy of the documents and they didn't make copies. How convenient."

Wasn't magic. They had copies, it was a thumb drive. Enough evidence on the laptop and corroborated emails from Buba's phone.

 

[JB Lions]

You list of reasons not to trust the contents of the laptop are not convincing, since it's been verified to belong to Hunter Biden.

"Then, magically they lose the only copy of the documents and they didn't make copies. How convenient."

Wasn't magic. They had copies, it was a thumb drive. Enough evidence on the laptop and corroborated emails from Buba's phone.

Lots of hands were on that laptop. You still haven't taken it apart line by line.

And I can add Tucker falling back now to the list. You haven't addressed that yet. Why to you think Tucker is all of a sudden falling back? Went from big story that was going to take them down to, ah, we're being too hard on him.

And yet again, for the umpteenth time. Nothing on Joe. That's why Tucker is falling back. He knows it, the network knows it.

 

[Namersen]

t's not a strawman, look how you responded.

I said:
CDC, WHO, Surgeon General, all legit scientists, doctors, virologists etc. say to wear masks. If they were doing more harm than good, they would not be saying that.

You replied:
They would, and cover their behinds in legalese (of course you have to wear them correctly, duh!)

The strawman remark was for when you went from this to "Apparently all the experts/studies in the world are lying.", but even with what you said earlier - "CDC, WHO, Surgeon General, all legit scientists, doctors, virologists etc.", what's legit for you is bogus, and we've been showing proof in this thread repeatedly. BTW, has Fauci any degrees in molecular biology?

Then as I pointed out, the one link you posted was about cloth vs. medical masks. Not what we're talking about.

Cloth mask have been and still are being recommended, so it's still in the topic.