The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[enlytend]

The point isn’t whether or not Hunter Biden (who isn’t running for President btw) did anything wrong (though there is NO EVIDENCE that he did)

The issue is the president of the United States used his office to extort a foreign country to come up with dirt specifically on a political rival in order to influence US elections. That’s a violation of federal law, I posted a link to the law earlier.

He’s not worried about corruption, this is an attempt to discredit the candidate most likely to get the nomination. And aside from the illegality, he’s using his office for personal gain instead of acting in the best interests of the country.

He withheld security aid to a foreign country for political purposes.

If POTUS was truly so concerned about corruption and influence peddling (although that’s law enforcement’s job, not his) maybe he should start by having someone look into Jared’s dealings with MBS

 

[mr-x]

Proof hate makes you stupid.

1) Trump didn't ask China / Ukraine to investigate Biden. He was asked "should" they be investigated and answered he thought they should.

2) None of these responses bother to consider if Biden should actually be investigated for letting his son fly with his him on Gov business to countries, then accept compensation or investments for which isn't qualified to get on his own.

3) Can you imagine the non-stop outrage these tools would be parroting if Hunter Biden was a republican or worse, a member of the Trump family.

P.S. John Kerry's son was on the plan too.

P.S.S. Senate democrats sent a letter to Ukraine threatening to hold aid to the country if they didn't investigate Trump.

 

[mr-x]

The point isn’t whether .. Hunter Biden .. did anything wrong (though there is NO EVIDENCE that he did)

Lot's of evidence, you're ignoring it.

Do you believe Hunter got a seat on the board of a company at 3X the average pay ( $85,000 / month ) of American corporations, that he wasn't in anyway qualified for, in a foreign country where his father is in charge of approving hundreds of millions, even a billion $$ of aid?

The issue is the president of the United States used his office to extort a foreign country to come up with dirt specifically on a political rival in order to influence US elections. That’s a violation of federal law, I posted a link to the law earlier.

He’s not worried about corruption, this is an attempt to discredit the candidate most likely to get the nomination. And aside from the illegality, he’s using his office for personal gain instead of acting in the best interests of the country.

If POTUS was truly so concerned about corruption and influence peddling (although that’s law enforcement’s job, not his) maybe he should start by having someone look into Jared’s dealings with MBS

"If" President Trump is so corrupt, why did a CIA employee and the head of the house judiciary committee have to fabricate a whistleblower complaint from 2nd and third hand evidence.

Me: How many times are you going to fall for the same bullshit?

Liberals: We'll get him next time!!

 

[JB Lions]

Lot's of evidence, you're ignoring it.

Do you believe Hunter got a seat on the board of a company at 3X the average pay ( $85,000 / month ) of American corporations, that he wasn't in anyway qualified for, in a foreign country where his father is in charge of approving hundreds of millions, even a billion $$ of aid?



"If" President Trump is so corrupt, why did a CIA employee and the head of the house judiciary committee have to fabricate a whistleblower complaint from 2nd and third hand evidence.

Me: How many times are you going to fall for the same bullsh*t?

Liberals: We'll get him next time!!

Why do you continue to lie your ass off? Is it because you think people wouldn't notice?

"Office of the ICIG, Sept. 30: As part of his determination that the urgent concern appeared credible, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that the Complainant had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct............

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/no-hearsay-rule-change-for-whistleblowers/

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"Trump didn't ask China / Ukraine to investigate Biden. He was asked "should" they be investigated and answered he thought they should."

Yes he did, it's right in the transcript.

"While Congress mulls whether President Trump's phone call soliciting help from the president of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and his son is an impeachable offense, Trump's action raises another question. Did the president's requests violate campaign finance law?"

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/05/7672...ate-election-laws-but-no-one-s-enforcing-them

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Did you not watch the timeline video or what I posted before? That company was under investigation 2 years before Hunter got on board. Why is it aid wasn't released until the story broke? A reporter asked Trump a good question yesterday. What other countries is he inquiring about corruption that doesn't involve a political rival? Trump dodged that question.

Your non-reading, gullible ass just keeps getting conned. that's your problem.

 

[GILSAN]

@GILSAN JB asked me to pass this to you since you have him blocked.
btw, why do you block him?

What I think of JB and his opinions, or his links...

 

[GILSAN]

I think Biden's "unhinged" yelling and finger pointing will make a great campaign ad for Trump.

It's beginning to get to Joe...

 

[fatter]

One million kids want us adults to clean up the planet. one million adults want our kids to clean there rooms.

 

[GILSAN]

One million kids want us adults to clean up the planet. one million adults want our kids to clean there rooms.

LOL... the perfect analogy!

 

[mr-x]

Why do you continue to lie your ass off? Is it because you think people wouldn't notice?

1) Asking for influence peddling, illegal lobbying, bribery to be investigated isn't a crime.

Hunter was flown to China and Ukraine on his fathers Gov jet. Immediately after leaving those countries he was awarded extraordinary salaries, awarded contracts with hundreds of millions.

If it was on his own merit, why did it all end after he father left office of VP ?

2) Digging up "dirt" isn't the same as asking, demanding a obviously suspicious set of circumstances.

"Office of the ICIG, Sept. 30: As part of his determination that the urgent concern appeared credible, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that the Complainant had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct............

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/no-hearsay-rule-change-for-whistleblowers/

WB lied to IC IG and didn't disclose he / she was working with Rep. Adam Schiff.

Why?

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"Trump didn't ask China / Ukraine to investigate Biden. He was asked "should" they be investigated and answered he thought they should."

Yes he did, it's right in the transcript.

Yes. So what? Hunter was a lobbyist before his father was elected VP. He flew to China with his father on Gov business, was awarded 1.5 billion in USD to manage in his new investment company. He wasn't a investment manager, only a partner.

China got favorable trade agreements. Biden should be investigated.

"While Congress mulls whether President Trump's phone call soliciting help from the president of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and his son is an impeachable offense, Trump's action raises another question. Did the president's requests violate campaign finance law?"

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/05/7672...ate-election-laws-but-no-one-s-enforcing-them

The SENATE DEMOCRATS WROTE A LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE DEMANDING TRUMP BE INVESTIGATED OR THEY WOULD WITHHOLD AID.

If there were a crime, Nancy and Adam would be crowing about it and hold a vote to start an impeachment investigation as required by law.

Instead they just talk about impeachment, while the media breathlessly and dramatically gaslights America.

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Did you not watch the timeline video or what I posted before? That company was under investigation 2 years before Hunter got on board. Why is it aid wasn't released until the story broke? A reporter asked Trump a good question yesterday. What other countries is he inquiring about corruption that doesn't involve a political rival? Trump dodged that question.

Your non-reading, gullible ass just keeps getting conned. that's your problem.

The company was investigated 2 years before Hunter got "hired" for his expertise in lobbying his father; so we should ignore the obvious bribery, influence peddling of the Bidens.

Not to mention, these dramatic impeachment declarations are from the same people who claimed Justice Kavanaugh was a sexual predator with zero proof. As a matter of fact, the only proof was the "victims" were liars.

Remember how sure you were? LOL... good times am I right?

 

[mr-x]

It's beginning to get to Joe...

Joe and Bernie are done. RNC already pivoting to Warren.

Bernie raised a lot of money; I wonder if he could give it to another candidate, like Warren in exchange for supporting a few of his policies.

 

[enlytend]

One million kids want us adults to clean up the planet. one million adults want our kids to clean there rooms.

If there's no planet, rooms become irrelevant.
They're the ones who will have to deal with the mess our generations made. We'll all be gone by then. Their concern is justified.

 

[mr-x]

If there's no planet, rooms become irrelevant.
They're the ones who will have to deal with the mess our generations made. We'll all be gone by then. Their concern is justified.

Instead of twerking and throwing glitter or sailing across the Atlantic in a $150,000 sail boat with a complete support team in a boat with diesel engines...

We could urge people to conserve and organize to clean up our beaches, water ways, streets, etc.. Actually do something besides protest and harass

 

[mr-x]

@SharylAttkisson
If you were worried or panicked that you might soon be revealed as an improper leaker, would you consider calling yourself a whistleblower -- and get a lawyer?
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Fits the time line.
Fake WB contacts Schiffty,
Schiffty helps write the complaint,
Fake WB takes complaint to IC IG,
IC IG turns over to DOJ for investigation,
Fake WB / Schiffty panic, leak complaint.

IDK.

 

[mr-x]

Democrats want to keep the impeachment drum beating through the 2020 election. Count on multiple hearsay complaints, along with dramatic pearl clutching and outrage from media.

Most Americans have to work real jobs and will ignore this repetitive B/S. R's will take back the House. Hopefully they'll get large enough majority D's won't be able to stop them from passing legislation to fix health care, immigration, the budget.

 

[lennco]

I swear Limpy aka mr-x and Jim Jordan are the same guy.

Both are desperately trying to spin dog shit into something wonderful and then trying to sell it to the American people.

The problem for them is, we still know its dog shit.

Also, I hear Jordan has always been really good at ignoring the truth.

 

[mr-x]

LegInsurrection
Legal Insurrection Retweeted Mark S. Zaid

Abuse of whistleblower protections. This person is simply a witness to someone else's complaint who already has been interviewed. Weaponization of whistleblower laws is yet another breach of norms in effort to unwind 2016 election.
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Can you imagine the whaling and gnashing of teeth if DOJ put prosecuted these fake w/b's? But, but, but... orange man bad dammit!!

I swear Limpy aka mr-x and Jim Jordan are the same guy.

Both are desperately trying to spin dog sh*t into something wonderful and then trying to sell it to the American people.

The problem for them is, we still know its dog sh*t.

Also, I hear Jordan has always been really good at ignoring the truth.

Still waiting for one of you Internet Lawyers to name the law that was broken. It's doesn't matter what you think happened, only what you can prove.

 

[TestCase]

...Still waiting for one of you Internet Lawyers to name the law that was broken...

High crimes and Misdemeanors

See also:
https://definitions.uslegal.com/h/high-crimes-and-misdemeanors/
https://constitution.org/cmt/high_crimes.htm
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ounts-high-crime-or-misdemeanor-impeachment-/

I believe the threshold for proof/conviction of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" is significantly lower than that for actual crimial statutes.

 

[GILSAN]

Joe and Bernie are done. RNC already pivoting to Warren.

Bernie raised a lot of money; I wonder if he could give it to another candidate, like Warren in exchange for supporting a few of his policies.

Wouldn't be a big surprise at all. especially after a heart attack at his age, which will obviously slow him down... unless he goes against doctors orders!

 

[mr-x]

We know the definition of a high-crime.

Which crime... name it. You know, like selling guns to known felons, which is a felony; AKA Pres. Obama & his "wingman" AG Holder.

High crimes and Misdemeanors

See also:
https://definitions.uslegal.com/h/high-crimes-and-misdemeanors/
https://constitution.org/cmt/high_crimes.htm
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ounts-high-crime-or-misdemeanor-impeachment-/

I believe the threshold for proof/conviction of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" is significantly lower than that for actual crimial statutes.

I believe your wrong. Good luck getting a vote in the House, let alone the Senate.

 

[mr-x]

If Trump called Barr his "wingman" as Obama referred to Eric Holder, there would be heads exploding on both coast. It would be 30 minute docudramas with theme music on CNN and MSNBC.