The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[Kate]

Again, who said Mexico would pay ?

 

[mr-x]

You don't care about exploited children. You had no problem graphicly attacking the Catholic Church or Boy Scouts; institutions you consider conservative, over child abuse. When I pointed out 80% of the victim were teenage boy and their vicimizers where homosexual men, you denied the truth.

It's bad when anybody exploits a child, that includes you. It looks like you fell off the wagon, moved on from Desmond and found another 10 year old boy to exploit.

 

[mr-x]

"reportedly", "potentially" - about 80% of your claims.

Of course he did. He’s an opportunist and has a pretty dodgy history of online activities. That whole GoFundMe campaign (now refunded) should have raised a red flag with everyone from the beginning. But people saw “disabled veteran” and opened their wallets without looking further.

Losing limbs in battle doesn't automatically make one a nice person.

But using emotionally charged polls and petitions to harvest emails isn’t new or unique to him.

Build that list!

 

[enlytend]

reportedly", "potentially" - about 80% of your claims.

Um, I didn’t use either of those words in my post. Please work on your reading skills, it just makes things awkward.

If you weren’t trying to disparage me I’d almost feel embarrassed for you.

 

[mr-x]

Then you didn't bother to read the article you commented on. I've lost count of articles you've posted using un-named sources, vague allegations attacking someone who's upset the liberal group think.

Fake news outrage of the day.

Veteran pulls of a huge publicity stunt to contradict the liberal narrative and now he'll be accused of everything from kicking dogs to robbing piggy banks.

Um, I didn’t use either of those words in my post. Please work on your reading skills, it just makes things awkward.

If you weren’t trying to disparage me I’d almost feel embarrassed for you.

 

[mr-x]

Democrats:

Sen Dianne Feinstein ✔ @SenFeinstein
Fact check: Nearly half of all undocumented immigrants come to the United States legally but then overstay their visas. A border wall would do nothing to curb visa overstays.

Also Democrats:
It's time to abolish ICE.

 

[JB Lions]

You don't care about exploited children. You had no problem graphicly attacking the Catholic Church or Boy Scouts; institutions you consider conservative, over child abuse. When I pointed out 80% of the victim were teenage boy and their vicimizers where homosexual men, you denied the truth.

Your post in the thread The NP's Official USA Political Thread was deleted. Reason: Responding to a deleted post / Cleaning up the thread / Thank you for understanding

You had 4 posts of mine deleted, congrats. All recent ones, so I know which ones they were.

Let me sum them up.

If you felt there was actual abuse, you call the authorities, or someone around him does. Namepros isn't it. Dressing up or taking a picture with somebody isn't abuse, that's why there are no such charges. This is part of your ongoing anti-Gay, anti-Liberal, this isn't normal type stuff, this isn't something Conservative kids do routine. Except is this case and the other time you posted about 10 year old boys, you're going after kids. You guys are using 10 year old boys to bring traffic to their sites.

 

[mr-x]

My post were also deleted genius; I had nothing to do with it.

Your post in the thread The NP's Official USA Political Thread was deleted. Reason: Responding to a deleted post / Cleaning up the thread / Thank you for understanding

You had 4 posts of mine deleted, congrats. All recent ones, so I know which ones they were.

Let me sum them up.

If you felt there was actual abuse, you call the authorities, or someone around him does. Namepros isn't it. Dressing up or taking a picture with somebody isn't abuse, that's why there are no such charges. This is part of your ongoing anti-Gay, anti-Liberal, this isn't normal type stuff, this isn't something Conservative kids do routine. Except is this case and the other time you posted about 10 year old boys, you're going after kids.

You guys are using 10 year old boys to bring traffic to their sites.

Authorities were called. This behavior is public, posted to social media by the boys mother. My post referenced the lack of intervention by authorities.

You just can't help yourself.

 

[mr-x]

Can't believe Jim Acosta missed this sign at the border.

 

[JB Lions]

Can't believe Jim Acosta missed this sign at the border.

Probably because it's an old sign, that park is reopened now.

“To me it looks like the infrastructure is over the top. There's a lot of money being spent for very few people being caught,” said Jeff Caplan, a teacher from California, as a helicopter in green Border Patrol livery flew over the visitors center. “That's a lot of money being spent so that people can zoom around and catch one or two people who are trying to walk to fix food in a restaurant.”

 

[enlytend]

Veteran pulls of a huge publicity stunt to contradict the liberal narrative and now he'll be accused of everything from kicking dogs to robbing piggy banks.

Hmm. Interesting response.

You donated, yes?

 

[GILSAN]

 

[TestCase]

Note that that says "SENSIBLE gun laws", not "Take away all the guns." We can do better.

If that were only true...

The problem is that with each new "sensible gun law", "they" then come back and try to pass additional "sensible laws" that restrict the rights of law abiding gun owners even further. Just ask any law abiding gun owner in NY, CA, NJ, MD, etc... Every year additional restrictive laws are written, with many of them passing and going in to law.

There are probably several thousand Californians (at least) that have no idea they are now criminals because of laws that went in to effect the last couple of years even though they and their guns were perfectly legal 18 months ago -- and had been legal for XX+ years prior.

Criminals and crazy people do not abide by the word of law, so how exactly will restricting the rights of law abiding citizens prevent the crazies and criminals from having and using guns?

Look at how well all our drug laws have worked, how much money they have made for criminals, and how many people that have spent time in jail for pot offenses.

I'm thinking we need to spend a lot more on mental health and enforcing the laws for violent criminals that are already on the books!

 

[mr-x]

ABC News' Jonathan Karl on Mueller's upcoming report: "People who are closest to what Mueller has been doing, interacting with the special counsel, caution me that this report is almost certain to be anti-climactic."

 

[mr-x]

Hmm. Interesting response.

You donated, yes?

No. Did you really think he was going to raise a $1,000,000,000? There are only 350 million people living in the USA.

BTW, have you hear from your friends about Dr Fraud's new home? Is it nice? Did she have a second front door installed?

 

[enlytend]

If that were only true...

The problem is that with each new "sensible gun law", "they" then come back and try to pass additional "sensible laws" that restrict the rights of law abiding gun owners even further. Just ask any law abiding gun owner in NY, CA, NJ, MD, etc... Every year additional restrictive laws are written, with many of them passing and going in to law.

There are probably several thousand Californians (at least) that have no idea they are now criminals because of laws that went in to effect the last couple of years even though they and their guns were perfectly legal 18 months ago -- and had been legal for XX+ years prior.

Criminals and crazy people do not abide by the word of law, so how exactly will restricting the rights of law abiding citizens prevent the crazies and criminals from having and using guns?

Look at how well all our drug laws have worked, how much money they have made for criminals, and how many people that have spent time in jail for pot offenses.

I'm thinking we need to spend a lot more on mental health and enforcing the laws for violent criminals that are already on the books!

I do know some law abiding gun owners in ny and nj - none them complaining...
A few thoughts:
- More comprehensive background checks
- domestic violence needs to be a big red flag - possibly banning ownership on a case by case basis.
- Parents should be held responsible if their kid gets a hold of their gun and kills someone.
- The more paranoid will disagree but I don’t think the average gun owner needs assault weapons. I’m ok with limited civilian ownership, but set the bar for it higher than let’s say, for a hunting rifle.

Some criminals will get a hold of guns illegally, so will some mentally ill, but why make it easy for them?

Agree with better detection and treatment of mental illness, especially in the schools. We aren’t doing very well identifying and addressing the at risk kids.

At any rate “thoughts and prayers” aren’t cutting it. No perfect answers.

 

[JB Lions]

Trump is getting cabin fever:

So sorry to hear the news about Jeff Bozo being taken down by a competitor whose reporting, I understand, is far more accurate than the reporting in his lobbyist newspaper, the Amazon Washington Post. Hopefully the paper will soon be placed in better & more responsible hands!
8:45 PM - 13 Jan 2019
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

If Elizabeth Warren, often referred to by me as Pocahontas did this commercial from Bighorn or Wounded Knee instead of her kitchen, with her husband dressed in full Indian garb, it would have been a smash!
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6m6 minutes ago

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All signs point the same way: Vladimir Putin has compromising information on Donald Trump
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...n-compromising-information-column/2564892002/

Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8695d56c30ff

Trump’s disapproval rating higher since shutdown began: poll
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump’s-disapproval-rating-higher-since-shutdown-began-poll/ar-BBSbDx8?li=BBnbfcL

 

[enlytend]

If Elizabeth Warren, often referred to by me as Pocahontas did this commercial from Bighorn or Wounded Knee instead of her kitchen, with her husband dressed in full Indian garb, it would have been a smash!

[sarcasm]That comment should be a BIG hit with the native American population. [/sarcasm]

Funny that when Pirro asked him if he ever worked with / for Russia he never said "No." Just went on a big runaround about how the questions hurt his feefees.

We live in interesting times...

 

[TestCase]

...The more paranoid will disagree but I don’t think the average gun owner needs assault weapons...

And that is one of the biggest problems. The anti-gun folks keep trying to change the "definition" of what an "assault weapon" is. Every time they (try to) create a "definition" for what constitutes an "assault weapon", gun owners adapt their weapons so they can continue to own and use them, yet the anti-gun legislators come back and try to redefine them again.

By the way, if it's the "rapid fire" of a semi-auto that concerns you, then take a look at the video below. The gentleman in it can fire all the rounds in a revolver faster than most people can get off a couple of rounds with a semi-automatic -- PLUS he actually hits where he is shooting with every bullet. So should we now restrict the lowly revolver because some people can shoot it faster than most people can shoot a semi auto???

Skip to about 7:15 mark to see his skills.

Booze kills TWICE as many people each year as guns, but I don't see a lot of people clamoring to add any more laws restricting it...

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics

Alcohol-Related Deaths:

• An estimated 88,0008 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, and the second is poor diet and physical inactivity.
• In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities).

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/gun-deaths.html

Nearly 40,000 People Died From Guns in U.S. Last Year, Highest in 50 Years

Personally, I wouldn't miss booze one bit if it was completely outlawed tomorrow.

 

[.X.]

I do know some law abiding gun owners in ny and nj - none them complaining...
A few thoughts:
- More comprehensive background checks
- domestic violence needs to be a big red flag - possibly banning ownership on a case by case basis.
- Parents should be held responsible if their kid gets a hold of their gun and kills someone.
- The more paranoid will disagree but I don’t think the average gun owner needs assault weapons. I’m ok with limited civilian ownership, but set the bar for it higher than let’s say, for a hunting rifle.

Some criminals will get a hold of guns illegally, so will some mentally ill, but why make it easy for them?

Agree with better detection and treatment of mental illness, e

I do know some law abiding gun owners in ny and nj - none them complaining...
A few thoughts:
- More comprehensive background checks
- domestic violence needs to be a big red flag - possibly banning ownership on a case by case basis.
- Parents should be held responsible if their kid gets a hold of their gun and kills someone.
- The more paranoid will disagree but I don’t think the average gun owner needs assault weapons. I’m ok with limited civilian ownership, but set the bar for it higher than let’s say, for a hunting rifle.

Some criminals will get a hold of guns illegally, so will some mentally ill, but why make it easy for them?

Agree with better detection and treatment of mental illness, especially in the schools. We aren’t doing very well identifying and addressing the at risk kids.

At any rate “thoughts and prayers” aren’t cutting it. No perfect answers.

I agree , I have had my CHL in Texas since 1996, I have an adult record of 7 arrests, but all were misdemeanors not related to family violence, or violent crime, theft or any of that shit, as the years have gone by, and I renew my CHL, the regulations have gotten more stringent, and people can not hide arrests or have ever been under investigation by federal authorities. if a person has been institutionalized for a mental reason, they will find it. if a person is currently under mental health care and on medications, they will find that.

there have been very very many applications turned down in Texas for those very reasons, and people lying on their application.

So the scanning process has gotten more stringent since CHL began here in Tx, I agree with the stringent process so that all bases are covered for the safety of the citizens.

Assault weapons? well, they are military grade weapons, so they can only be used for two things, collecting or killing, I have mixed feelings on assault weapons being banned, my reasoning is if they ban assault weapons, will that be the beginning of all firearm bans, I highly doubt it, but the NRA will fight that ban tooth and nail.