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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

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Here you can spout your USA political views.

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2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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Low IQ = to buy too many 50+ P/E stocks.

But it’s all Trumps fault of all the postive economy, low unemployment, low interest rates, all the good news, over confidence in the future and stupid people paying too much for stocks of course.

Interest rates were way too low, for too long. I Disagree with Trump.

Here is what remains true: from Nasdaq website itself.

“In many ways, there has been a changing of the guard on Wall Street over the past several years. The transition from on-the-floor traders to algorithm-based digital trading has been well-documented, and even our preferred methods for determining value and growth potential have changed.

With that said, one of the most polarizing new trends on the stock market relates to the use of traditional valuation metrics on tech stocks-or the lack of use, I should say.

For better or worse, investors are quick to disregard old-school methods like the P/E ratio in favor of heavy optimism about the future.

It's the reason that Tesla TSLA continues to climb despite disappointing earnings reports, and it's why Amazon AMZN has become one of Wall Street's hottest stocks-even with its "F" grade for Value in our Style Scores system.

Interestingly enough, according to our Zacks Sector Rank data, the broad "Computer and Technology" sector has an average P/E ratio of 21.08, which is significantly "worse" than the S&P 500 average of 17.22.

Of course, a lot of this comes with the territory and is direct result of exposure to certain market conditions that are unique to tech companies. However, that does not mean we cannot have a little fun with it. Check out these three popular tech companies with ridiculous P/E ratios:

1. GoDaddy Inc. ( GDDY )

Trailing 12-Month P/E: 171.68

A leader in domain name licensing, GoDaddy skyrocketed to fame thanks to a series of raunchy TV commercials that had very little to do with its business. Regardless, the company is good at what it does. GoDaddy has only recently cemented consistent profits, but investors were willing to pay more for an industry-dominating internet stock with exciting growth prospects. Looking ahead, the company is expected to improve its earnings at an annualized rate of 20% over the next three to five years, so investors should expect this valuation to become less stretched over time.”


3 Popular Tech Stocks with Insanely High P/E Ratios

https://www.nasdaq.com/article/3-popular-tech-stocks-with-insanely-high-pe-ratios-cm921692


https://www.profitspi.com/stock/view.aspx?v=stock-screen&uv=100707



“If low interest rates indeed justified higher P/E ratios, as the bulls have argued for much of the last decade, consistency would require them to argue that P/Es should now be lower than in late 2015.

Consistency, though, appears to be the hobgoblin of small minds.”

“My suggestion for the next time you confront an adviser who for years has relied on low interest rates to justify high P/E ratios: Ask whether those fair-value P/E estimates have come down since December 2015. The answer will tell you a lot about how seriously he takes his own arguments.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/n...d-investors-make-of-high-pe-ratios-2018-09-28
 
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Low IQ = to buy too many 50+ P/E stocks.

But it’s all Trumps fault of all the postive economy, low unemployment, low interest rates, all the good news, over confidence in the future and stupid people paying too much for stocks of course.

Interest rates were way too low, for too long. I Disagree with Trump.

Here is what remains true: from Nasdaq website itself.

“In many ways, there has been a changing of the guard on Wall Street over the past several years. The transition from on-the-floor traders to algorithm-based digital trading has been well-documented, and even our preferred methods for determining value and growth potential have changed.

With that said, one of the most polarizing new trends on the stock market relates to the use of traditional valuation metrics on tech stocks-or the lack of use, I should say.

For better or worse, investors are quick to disregard old-school methods like the P/E ratio in favor of heavy optimism about the future.

It's the reason that Tesla TSLA continues to climb despite disappointing earnings reports, and it's why Amazon AMZN has become one of Wall Street's hottest stocks-even with its "F" grade for Value in our Style Scores system.

Interestingly enough, according to our Zacks Sector Rank data, the broad "Computer and Technology" sector has an average P/E ratio of 21.08, which is significantly "worse" than the S&P 500 average of 17.22.

Of course, a lot of this comes with the territory and is direct result of exposure to certain market conditions that are unique to tech companies. However, that does not mean we cannot have a little fun with it. Check out these three popular tech companies with ridiculous P/E ratios:

1. GoDaddy Inc. ( GDDY )

Trailing 12-Month P/E: 171.68

A leader in domain name licensing, GoDaddy skyrocketed to fame thanks to a series of raunchy TV commercials that had very little to do with its business. Regardless, the company is good at what it does. GoDaddy has only recently cemented consistent profits, but investors were willing to pay more for an industry-dominating internet stock with exciting growth prospects. Looking ahead, the company is expected to improve its earnings at an annualized rate of 20% over the next three to five years, so investors should expect this valuation to become less stretched over time.”


3 Popular Tech Stocks with Insanely High P/E Ratios

https://www.nasdaq.com/article/3-popular-tech-stocks-with-insanely-high-pe-ratios-cm921692


https://www.profitspi.com/stock/view.aspx?v=stock-screen&uv=100707



“If low interest rates indeed justified higher P/E ratios, as the bulls have argued for much of the last decade, consistency would require them to argue that P/Es should now be lower than in late 2015.

Consistency, though, appears to be the hobgoblin of small minds.”

“My suggestion for the next time you confront an adviser who for years has relied on low interest rates to justify high P/E ratios: Ask whether those fair-value P/E estimates have come down since December 2015. The answer will tell you a lot about how seriously he takes his own arguments.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/n...d-investors-make-of-high-pe-ratios-2018-09-28
High P/Es for the Tech sector have been the norm for almost 20 years.
Step outside the Tech sector and you find more realistic P/Es.
 
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Boy that was a bloody red closing...OUCH!

-650 points down! Almost 3%
Ugh.
I’d “like” that... but I don’t.
I don’t want to know how much of a hit my portfolio took - Can’t. Look.
So much winning...
 
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You may ask yourself...........


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Instead of just using this picture to slam on Liberals, why don't you tell all of us what exactly you don't like about this picture and the 2 people in it.

Assuming this picture was taken here in the US, does it upset you that these two are expressing their freedom to dress however they like?

Is there something these two are doing that you would like to make against the law?

What is it exactly?
They both look like men... one hidden behind a niqab, which should be banned in Western countries. The other looks like a freak. So why should I have to like freaks or people hiding behind a bag?

Why do you hate Trump and conservatives? Everyone's got their likes and dislikes... sooooo, go have a Merry Christmas or Vaffanculo... Take your pick!!!
 
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They both look like men... one hidden behind a niqab, which should be banned in Western countries. The other looks like a freak. So why should I have to like freaks or people hiding behind a bag?

Why do you hate Trump and conservatives? Everyone's got their likes and dislikes... sooooo, go have a Merry Christmas or Vaffanculo... Take your pick!!!
I never said you had to like it, did I?
I just asked what do you not like about them and I also asked whatever it is you don't like about them would you make it illegal?

So you make veils on women illegal, how about the other one?
What would you make illegal about them?
 
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Donald Trump Tweets: “I Am All Alone (Poor Me) In White House” On Christmas Eve

His family could have stayed and kept him company...
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Nah!

Don't worry about the Market going down, there is a Plunge Protection Team


Mnuchin to convene U.S. 'Plunge Protection Team' as markets worry

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa...rotection-team-as-markets-worry-idUSL1N1YT0B4

Sounds like something you pour down a sluggish drain...
 
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So you make veils on women illegal, how about the other one?
What would you make illegal about them?
That's a bloody niqab... not a veil! Some countries in Europe have made them illegal in public. I would enforce a public ban on all niqabs and burkas all over the western world.
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As for the other freak... Send him/her/it to San Francisco, where I'm sure he/she/it will be warmly greeted with a "Freaks are Welcome Here" Maybe to clean up the streets from all the filth left behind by other freaks!
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High P/Es for the Tech sector have been the norm for almost 20 years.
Step outside the Tech sector and you find more realistic P/Es.

Realistic ones like these.
Pills, chem, Sugar water and Shoes.

P/E’s. Plenty of excess room to fall. Sell list.

JNJ 215
MRK 57
KO 69
DWDP 55
NKE 51

Tech.
AMZN 215
NFLX 83
TSLA —— spin the roulette wheel.
CSCO 153

Old line, How low can they go?

P/E’s
MO 8.95 3.2%
XOM 12 3.2%
GS 11.4
CVX 13, 4.48%
 
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Here is a good quote from a Venezuelan sociologist that helps explain why I am suspicious of people who use "patriot" and "traitor" to describe people:

“According to Chavez’s logic, some people are evil – traitors who wish for bad things and oppose everything good. Before, they were not seen as adversaries, but as enemies of Chavez and the nation. They needed to discredit these enemies – eliminate them politically and morally, and, if necessary, eliminate them physically. Venezuela hadn’t experienced ideological expressions of hatred like this before. The people held grudges against the upper class and politicians, but hatred, as an expression of ideology, is a new phenomenon. Hugo Chavez sowed hatred, by dividing the nation into revolutionaries and reactionaries… into defenders of the nation and traitors.”

Useless words, except when their use helps you identify the deeply brainwashed or their manipulators.
 
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Hey guys guess what? Earlier this month, while we were all distracted by the wall stuff, Pai’s FCC reclassified text messaging as title 1 (information services) instead of title 2 (telecommunication services) like they were before.

Ostensibly so ISPs can control text spam (which is about 3% of all text messages.) But this reclassification means that any and all SMS/MMS traffic can now be monitored, censored or blocked.

Moar Winning!

(PS - Just use Signal.)
 
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But this reclassification means that any and all SMS/MMS traffic can now be monitored, censored or blocked.
Sort of what Google, Youtube, Facebook and Twitter have been doing to conservative voices in recent years, right?
 
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Hey guys guess what? Earlier this month, while we were all distracted by the wall stuff,
And who distracted us because of the wall... the MSM, right?

I know I had other things to talk about besides the wall...
 
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German Fake News Journo Accused of Embezzling Money Meant for Syrian Orphans
Former Der Spiegel star journalist Claas Relotius, who was exposed for inventing facts and interviews in his stories for years, has now been accused of embezzling money allegedly meant for Syrian orphans in Turkey.

Mr Relotius allegedly took donations from readers following the publication of his article “Königskinder,” which was published in July 2016, to a personal bank account. According to Turkish photographer Emin Özmen, much of the article contained fabrications and lies, Der Spiegel reports.

Özmen said that Relotius had written about a Syrian refugee boy in Turkey named Ahmed who had to bury his mother and had a sister who was forced into brutal work in a textile factory.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...urno-accused-embezzling-money-syrian-orphans/
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Opinion: Time for G.O.P. to Threaten to Fire Trump
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/opinion/impeach-fire-president-trump.html

(I can predict which of you won't read past the first paragraph, but he lays out his reasoning well.)

THAT SAID:

I do wish all a very happy holiday season - whichever your celebrate or choose not to. In the end, we all want the same things out of life - we just disagree vehemently on how best to achieve them.
 
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Sort of what Google, Youtube, Facebook and Twitter have been doing to conservative voices in recent years, right?

Not at all.
They are private businesses - you choose to visit and use their platforms. They’re also free (aside from paid YouTube) - you play by their rules. As a consumer of a free service you have no grounds to dictate how they run their business. Don’t like it, don’t use it.

Your ISP is how you access everything. You pay for the service and you don’t have a choice whether your SMS traffic goes through them or not. Maybe you can choose a different ISP, if service is available, but they all have the same authority.

They’re more likely to snoop and monetize than censor.

As I said - just use Signal. There are lots of workarounds for nosy ISPs.
Signal, Tor, Onion browser, don’t use their DNS servers...
 
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