The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

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[offthehandle]

 

[mr-x]

Reminder: Flynn chanted “lock her up” at the RNC, said “If I did a tenth, a tenth of what she did, I would be in jail.”
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1075235603829145601

Turns out he was right.

 

[mr-x]

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Sammy makes his own Tequila. None of the GMO crap.

 

[GILSAN]

Is The Wall Around Nancy Pelosi's House Immoral? | Huckabee

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[JB Lions]

Judge orders deported asylum seekers to be returned to US, in Trump administration rebuke

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ju...returned-to-us-in-trump-administration-rebuke

 

[enlytend]

If both sides are not totally happy with him, he might make a good president

https://www.salon.com/2018/12/19/be...record-might-not-be-what-progressives-expect/

He seems fairly willing to work across the aisle. That’s a good thing. Country’s too divided right now, last thing we need is someone too far left who would make it worse. Not to mention, we need someone moderates who are fed up with 45 can be OK with.

With all their brand and market share, soon to be collecting every bodies health condition for some cloud database that will vulnerable to being hacked. Great way to sell their Alexas evesdropping, spy speaker device and dispensing medical information too. hardy har har.

They’ll get slapped really hard if they don’t follow HIPAA laws for privacy and security. Or did potus scrap those regulations too?

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Bill had sex, presidency and a heart condition - hasn’t been in good health for years. Hillary had just as bad a deal or worse with his womanizing in his younger days and she looks Ok for her age.

 

[JB Lions]

We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency.
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago

Getting push back from Republicans, General said something different earlier this month. That we needed to be there for stabilization.

"Trump ally Lindsey Graham calls a withdrawal from Syria “an Obama-like mistake,” arguing that it will "be seen by Iran and other bad actors as a sign of American weakness in the efforts to contain Iranian expansion."

"We have not defeated ISIS in Syria or Iraq. We have, however, left Raqqa and Mosul in ruins, filled with dead bodies and unexploded ordnance, and cut recovery aid. There is every reason to expect the group’s resurgence."

I guess Putin gave him his marching orders.

This isn't going over well it looks like from military, Republicans. Seems nobody knew this was coming, didn't consult military leaders, Congress etc.

"Pentagon says 30,000 ISIS remain"

U.S. Plan to Leave Syria Sparks Fears of an Islamic State Rebound
Troop withdrawal would deprive U.S.-backed forces of cover, open door for extremist group to rebuild, some experts say

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-pl...an-islamic-state-rebound-11545254959?mod=e2tw

Could this be his Bush's Mission Accomplished moment. I guess we'll see. This one good or bad will be all on him.

 

[.X.]

These investigations are heating up at an excellerated pace now, Flynn is in deep shit, I expect that all the suspects of the complete probes, will start snitching each other out real soon.

I am thinking President Trump resigns by early to mid 2019, unless the fed seals the charges, in which case he would stay the complete term, then the unsealing of an indictment would happen right after 2020, this doesn’t look good IMO

We will just have to see how all this plays out I guess. I would have never thought such a cluster fuck of shit would be taking place like it is.

 

[.X.]

These investigations are heating up at an excellerated pace now, Flynn is in deep sh*t, Mueller is going to go all in to save as much of his ass as possible.I expect that all the suspects of the complete probes, will start snitching each other out real soon.

I am thinking President Trump resigns by early to mid 2019, unless the fed seals the charges, in which case he would stay the complete term, then the unsealing of an indictment would happen right after 2020, this doesn’t look good IMO

We will just have to see how all this plays out I guess. I would have never thought such a cluster f*ck of sh*t would be taking place like it is.

 

[JB Lions]

Then this happened today, they're still trying to find a way out of it, not happening. I'm not sure why Giuliani continues to go out there and do interviews and such, it seems he makes things worse for Trump. Just was caught lying about that letter of intent being signed, then sending unsolicited texts trying to wiggle out of a campaign finance law violation:

Giuliani makes new defense of Stormy Daniels, Karen McDougal payments

In an unsolicited text to The Hill on Wednesday afternoon, Giuliani argued that those payments would not violate campaign finance laws "even if a purpose was to aid the campaign."

Such payments would be defensible, he argued, so long as "there is a strong personal component to a payment - like protecting your wife, children and family from scandal................

Giuliani's interpretation of the law is vigorously contested by many lawyers and other experts, who insist that any payment intended - even in part - to help a political campaign must be reported as a contribution."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...karen-mcdougal-payments/ar-BBRbPQF?li=BBnb7Kz

 

[JB Lions]

Oh, just saw this video he posted on Twitter. He's going the Bush Mission Accomplished route, just stupid:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1075528854402256896

"We have won against ISIS"

Then all they need to do is pull off an attack.

Some replies:

Is that what Putin told you to do? Because nobody thinks this is a good move.

Never thought I'd see an American President capitulate to Russia from the front steps of the White House.

The Department of Defense says ISIL has not been defeated in Syria

Trump's special envoy for Syria flatly contradicted him last week: 'Reckless' to declare victory and leave

Seems to me this is a diversion. Claim the victory as if you did it, pull out troops for show --- all in a meek effort to make yourself look good at a time when you look very, very bad. GOP senators say it is the wrong thing to do. I hope it is done - Russia now has free reign.

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Military Times article in the last hour:

US troops are leaving, but ISIS is not defeated in Syria
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...re-leaving-but-isis-is-not-defeated-in-syria/

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Trump's special envoy for Syria flatly contradicted him last week: 'Reckless' to declare victory and leave

A total U.S. withdrawal from Syria following the defeat of the Islamic State would be “reckless,” the US envoy to Syria said last week - days before President Trump decided on that very course of action.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...st-week-reckless-to-declare-victory-and-leave

 

[.X.]

Then this happened today, they're still trying to find a way out of it, not happening. I'm not sure why Giuliani continues to go out there and do interviews and such, it seems he makes things worse for Trump. Just was caught lying about that letter of intent being signed, then sending unsolicited texts trying to wiggle out of a campaign finance law violation:

Giuliani makes new defense of Stormy Daniels, Karen McDougal payments

In an unsolicited text to The Hill on Wednesday afternoon, Giuliani argued that those payments would not violate campaign finance laws "even if a purpose was to aid the campaign."

Such payments would be defensible, he argued, so long as "there is a strong personal component to a payment - like protecting your wife, children and family from scandal................

Giuliani's interpretation of the law is vigorously contested by many lawyers and other experts, who insist that any payment intended - even in part - to help a political campaign must be reported as a contribution."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...karen-mcdougal-payments/ar-BBRbPQF?li=BBnb7Kz

Besides all the current investigations, I am wondering what they have that is concrete that they aren’t disclosing, I am totally floored by all this, I wouldn’t have thought this is a million years, it has to be a tender process so our country doesn’t go to hell in a handbag, this stuff is getting very serious, I feel quite sure not everything is transparent to the media to publish, that could crash the stock market amoungst a ton of other shit.

 

[.X.]

Oh, just saw this video he posted on Twitter. He going the Bush Mission Accomplished route, just stupid:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1075528854402256896

"We have won against ISIS"

Then all they need to do is pull off an attack.

Some replies:

Is that what Putin told you to do? Because nobody thinks this is a good move.

Never thought I'd see an American President capitulate to Russia from the front steps of the White House.

The Department of Defense says ISIL has not been defeated in Syria

Trump's special envoy for Syria flatly contradicted him last week: 'Reckless' to declare victory and leave

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Military Times article in the last hour:

US troops are leaving, but ISIS is not defeated in Syria
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...re-leaving-but-isis-is-not-defeated-in-syria/

I don’t think we have made a dent in Isis, my nephew is over in Afghanistan as I write this, has already done a tour in Iraq, is scheduled to come home, then be deployed to Syria.

If we can’t nix out our local gangs, how in the hell are we supposed to defeat terrorist groups that spread out all over the world.

We need to concentrate on homeland security pretty much solely at this point, there are radical fucks in our own country. Many Americans as we already know by the mass shootings, Islamic, Mexican, black, white, oriental , we have seen it in all races, religions and ect. Right here in our back yard, we best turn to handling our business in our own country.

 

[JB Lions]

I don’t think we have made a dent in Isis, my nephew is over in Afghanistan as I write this, has already done a tour in Iraq, is scheduled to come home, then be deployed to Syria.

Maybe he doesn't have to go to Syria anymore, if we're doing a complete withdrawal. We'll see how all this plays out. It does seem Trump's move caught everybody off guard, I mean:

"Trump's special envoy for Syria flatly contradicted him last week: 'Reckless' to declare victory and leave"

Reckless to declare victory and leave, the very next week, he does exactly that. This is exactly what Putin wanted as well. Also, lifting sanctions on 2 Russian firms today.

Just made a video, going against all the available information out there. Big Republicans speaking out against it. Cruz, Graham etc.

 

[JB Lions]

DOW - 23,323.66 lowest of this year.
Dow slides to 2018 low after Fed disappoints
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/investing/stock-market-today-dow/index.html
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Last week:

Special Envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS Brett McGurk Provides Progress Update

The one that said - 'Reckless' to declare victory and leave"

Trump, hold my beer - "We Won, we're leaving"

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Trump has a new 2020 ad out, I was trying to just find the ad but couldn't. But found the ad in the video below. You can call a 1800 number to "deliver a personal Thank You to your President"

 

[.X.]

Maybe he doesn't have to go to Syria anymore, if we're doing a complete withdrawal. We'll see how all this plays out. It does seem Trump's move caught everybody off guard, I mean:

"Trump's special envoy for Syria flatly contradicted him last week: 'Reckless' to declare victory and leave"

Reckless to declare victory and leave, the very next week, he does exactly that. This is exactly what Putin wanted as well. Also, lifting sanctions on 2 Russian firms today.

Just made a video, going against all the available information out there. Big Republicans speaking out against it. Cruz, Graham etc.

I hope you are right and he doesn’t have to go to Syria, we have vets with PTSD so bad they can’t get a nights rest after coming home, they are doing to many tours of combat. Also to mention the daily suicide rate of our vets.

I would far rather see him in our homeland serving our country on a border or homeland terrorism strike force capacity.

 

[offthehandle]

F the republican swamp creatures.
F Paul Ryan and McConnell they had the ball, they are the swamp problem.
Your tax dollars at work.
Your obstructionist agenda. 2019, will be a shit show, nothing getting done.
Your future socialism.
Your millennials are soon to be the biggest voter base with their entitlement syndrome, "I am special, I got the achievement award simply for showing up", the POS society is rising.

Your open door, just let them all in, "Mr. Trump !!! Tear down this wall!".
Your new unskilled workforce, welfare recipients.

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Legal-and-Illegal-Immigrant-Households

Your problem. Enjoy paying the bills!

Poof.

Judge orders deported asylum seekers to be returned to US, in Trump administration rebuke

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ju...returned-to-us-in-trump-administration-rebuke

 

[offthehandle]

I would far rather see him in our homeland serving our country on a border or homeland terrorism strike force capacity.

Glad to see the pull out of Syria. The only thing is with all the new "refugee-fake-immigrants" from ME that the liberals will fight in the 9th circuit to allow into the states. Good luck with that.

 

[offthehandle]

DOW - 23,323.66 lowest of this year.
Dow slides to 2018 low after Fed disappoints

Did you break out the champagne and celebrate? Or are ya waiting until the Nancy and Chucky show arrives on Jan 2nd?

 

[JB Lions]

Did you break out the champagne and celebrate? Or are ya waiting until the Nancy and Chucky show arrives on Jan 2nd?

Nope, I didn't vote or support him. It's a big mess, it's looking like 2019 is going to be the worst year yet for Trump.

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Looks like Stone got next

Mueller seeks Roger Stone’s testimony to House intelligence panel, suggesting special counsel is near end of probe of Trump adviser

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III asked the House Intelligence Committee on Friday for an official transcript of Trump adviser Roger Stone’s testimony, according to people familiar with the request, a sign that prosecutors could be moving to charge him with a crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.36d5a63b632d