The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[JB Lions]

The internet's still working just fine

It's been $40 / month for years. Maybe now it will be $30/month.

And they still have net neutrality where you live.

"people would probably die!!"

Can we see you at the local theater? Drama queen. I never said that btw.

 

[enlytend]

Good News. Nancy won't quit until she is 82

Pelosi strikes deal with rebels, will step aside by 2022 to win speaker votes

She’s an experienced legislator and certainly showed leadership and calm under fire yesterday. Very politely stood her ground. No shouting, no rudeness. Didn’t give any sh*t and didn’t take any either. GOP hates her because she’s effective.

Eventually need to get someone new, but now’s not the time.

 

[johname]

 

[JB Lions]

I think a lot of men in the Republican Party are scared of strong women. Hence the hate for Pelosi. She just bullied Trump yesterday.

Same maroon who said Trump's tax cuts would ruin the economy, then claimed the economic boom was Obama's magic foresight.

Saved for the recession.

 

[mr-x]

Same maroon who said Trump's tax cuts would ruin the economy, then claimed the economic boom was due to Obama's magic foresight.

And they still have net neutrality where you live.

"people would probably die!!"

Can we see you at the local theater? Drama queen. I never said that btw.

Just as predicted, we now have more completion, Internet prices are dropping.

https://www.spectrum.com/mobile.html

 

[mr-x]

We love Nancy.

I think a lot of men in the Republican Party are scared of strong women. Hence the hate for Pelosi. She just bullied Trump yesterday.

 

[mr-x]

And they still have net neutrality where you live.

"people would probably die!!"

Can we see you at the local theater? Drama queen. I never said that btw.

You rolled on the ground, kicking your feet in air.

 

[mr-x]

She’s an experienced legislator and certainly showed leadership and calm under fire yesterday. Very politely stood her ground. No shouting, no rudeness. Didn’t give any sh*t and didn’t take any either. GOP hates her because she’s effective.

Eventually need to get someone new, but now’s not the time.

GOP loves her because she's a horrible alt-left partisan with a long history of making stupid, inflammatory sound bites.

 

[TestCase]

The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades....

 

[enlytend]

I think a lot of men in the Republican Party are scared of strong women. Hence the hate for Pelosi.

That too. Strong women definitely get a lot of sh*t from the gop in general and trump-ets in particular.

I wouldn't say she bullied him, she sure as hell didn’t let him bully her, and he tried. Did you see how many times he tried to interrupt and talk over her? Rude and totally inappropriate.

 

[offthehandle]

We can thank Washington as a whole , the Democratics and Republicans alike for letting Google, Amazon, Walmart monopolize to the point of running our lives , with out us having any say so, these monopolies should have never happened, period. Let’s not forget Facebook as well. These types of monopolies absolutely destroy the American Dream for us.

Actually, in a true market driven world, Washington should not need to intervene in a "Free Market", I like less regulation and don't expect the Gov't to "Protect" me as a consumer. if you think about it- the "open market" somehow has failed us. Consumers have been duped and now the FAANG runs the western world. Some of the M/A actions I have failed to understand how they were allowed.

For example, Facebook should never have been allowed to buy up Whatsapp and Instagram.

Not sure how to describe it or who is to blame- IE: $$ Barrier to entry, VC obstruction, VC Collusion in Menlo Park?, etc... the entire system is flawed to have so much concentrated wealth and power in IT in one geographic area and it simply didn't work. Stanford University funded Google's development.

The entire situation is very complex a mixture of business failures, technology changes, market acceptance, US Gov't acceptance as a standard like MS Products on GSA schedule, etc.

This game plan goes back to past sins of Microsoft (Netscape et al) continually squashing small innovative companies who built and like the chinese- simply copying and stealing their ideas and adding them for free, then their PR states they "invented" the feature. Historically in my 1982 until now view is 3rd parties always had better add-on's than MS ever did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Navigator

"The business demise of Netscape was a central premise of Microsoft's antitrust trial, wherein the Court ruled that Microsoft's bundling of Internet Explorer with the Windows operating system was a monopolistic and illegal business practice. The decision came too late for Netscape, however, as Internet Explorer had by then become the dominant web browser in Windows."

Listen to Bill, arrogant and smirking:

The MS Office products used to have competiton from the beginning- now they own the PC market. Going way back to Visicalc- Lotus (before Excel), Dbase and other DB products before MS Access, All sorts of word processors like Wordperfect had decent market share- but all have virtually have disappeared. Borland who did some huge marketing and had decent products did not survive either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_1-2-3
The Wiki Article does not a reason for demise to include "other" information like purposely preventing 3rd party applications from functioning well and non-cooperation with necessary support from Microsoft allowing compatibility of 3rd party products.

Google licensed it's technology from Stanford University and got paid.
https://www.redorbit.com/news/education/318480/stanford_earns_336_million_off_google_stock/

Yet.. Google itself was start-up funded by US taxpayers and the National Science foundation.
https://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_summ.jsp?cntn_id=100660

Stanford is supposed to be Non-Profit- though it is funded by the Stanford Management 24 billion dollar fund, obviously for tax purposes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_University

 

[iowadawg]

 

[iowadawg]

 

[Domainace]

When you have so many people working for you who are in trouble with the law, it's no longer a coincidence but a pattern.

We all can agree in that - and the pattern is the political oppression of dissent against the status quo.

 

[enlytend]

But.... Apple and Google decides? censors? Who decides what is conspiracy, speculation and the truth? Thats my issue.

Facts are facts and truth is truth.

It’s one thing to report true facts in a biased manner - for example using wording to sway peoples’ perception or omitting some details. ALL media does this to some extent. Some like AP, given their “Newswire” background, stick to straight facts better than others, but still it’s next to impossible to present anything so that every word is completely neutral in meaning. There are so many nuances in language.

If there are sources behind a story and what they report can be fact checked, it’s still true even if reported with bias. Sometimes sources need to stay anonymous for their safety, but details can still be checked and corroborated via other sources.

And when they get it wrong (because sometimes anyone can get bad information), responsible media outlets will post a retraction or correct their story.

It’s a completely different matter to report things that never happened or make up figures that don’t exist. Not sure about Breitbart’s record, but gateway pundit is notorious for circulating stories that have later been totally debunked.

Question the motives and the funding / ownership of any source that habitually makes up or totally misrepresents things. Destroying the ability to believe anything and making people unable to distinguish truth is a mind game and a long standing propaganda technique. Intentionally publishing that sort of content, especially emotionally-charged fake stories, is someone deliberately messing with your head. Ask why.

As for deciding what to publish and how to publish it, in the end of the day Apple and Google are businesses who control how they run their properties and services. Their playground, their rules.

 

[mr-x]

Yes.. THIS!!

That too. Strong women definitely get a lot of sh*t from the gop in general and trump-ets in particular.

I wouldn't say she bullied him, she sure as hell didn’t let him bully her, and he tried. Did you see how many times he tried to interrupt and talk over her? Rude and totally inappropriate.

She's the leader to save the democrats.

 

[mr-x]

Saved for the recession.

You can hope. You'll keep posting stories about the coming calamity at every correction or stutter until then.

 

[mr-x]

This one is more complicated than the naked eye can see.

They who? The radical Muslims? From what country? Iraq?.

Al Queda ( spelling?? ) recruited from across the ME and northern Africa. Leadership was from SA and EG.

GWB may have had his eye on Iraq but I don't think he would have had the support if 9/11 hadn't happened. I think every democrat but a few like Barack Obama gave GW the green light to invaded Iraq.

Because GWB first agenda was Saddam Hussein and Iraq right after 9/11. Not Osama Binladen, binladen came later.

We had been in Iraq since the end of operation desert storm, we knew everything that Iraq had, we sold them the vast majority of their weapontry, we knew there were 0 weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. We had fully inventoried Iraq

My nephew is over there right now on his second tour of duty, to ummm, make a democracy I guess for the people of Iraq, one problem, their religion does not allow for a democracy, therefore the people of Iraq do not desire a democracy, just as we Americans don’t desire communism, and a lot of due to our religion of prodestant and Christianity.

That is what George Herbert Walker Bush understood.

My nephew is due to come home in 4 months from his second tour in Iraq, and be deployed to Syria in June

I'm grateful for his service.

 

[mr-x]

NYT Writer: Cancel Office Christmas Parties So Women Avoid Harassment

 

[Kate]

When you think of it, the commanders in chief are so often draft dodgers lol.