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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

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Translation: undocumented aliens are nothing more than paws in a very sad political game.

Those pawns make it harder for legal immigrants, asylum seekers and refugees.
 
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Same guy who defended public sadomasochism, public nudity and sexualization of children who aren't related to Trump.
 
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Those pawns make it harder for legal immigrants, asylum seekers and refugees.
Just build the bloody wall, otherwise illegals crossings will never end..
 
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Easier said than done. A wall is very expensive to build and there are thousands of kilometers to cover.
And a wall has to be manned to be effective.
Would you spend tens of billions of dollars on a wall to keep undesirables away or on healthcare. Tough call.
 
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Takeaway:
From now on, bona fide refugees (or otherwise) who decide to cross the border have good reason to go stealth and evade regular immigration mechanisms. Why make a formal declaration in front of ICE at a port of entry when you know what's awaiting you ?
Perhaps that's the intention, force aliens to move underground to drive statistics down and then claim you fixed the problem.

Exactly.
They still want to escape conditions where they are
If they present themselves to border patrol and tell them they seek asylum, they lose their kids until however long it takes to check them out and determine the request status.
If they enter illegally, theres a chance they’ll fly under the radar and will be together.

Another note on that wall fiasco: What’s to the east and west of the Mexican / US border? Most contraband arrives in this country by sea...

For those of you dead set against immigration and asylum seekers, are you Native American? If not, why did your family come here? Why would you deny that to someone else?
 
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Easier said than done. A wall is very expensive to build and there are thousands of kilometers to cover.
And a wall has to be manned to be effective.
$25-$40 billion is a lot cheaper than the free benefits that a high % of them recieve. There are a lot of other savings to be made, like the costs of encarcerating thousands of criminals, as well as the costs to human lives from all the drugs going through the present porous border areas.

Landing on the moon and returning safelly about 50 years ago was a million times harder to do.

The Great Wall of China is over 6000 km long and over 600 years old and was infinately harder to build...

Would you spend tens of billions of dollars on a wall to keep undesirables away or on healthcare. Tough call.
You bet I would! In fact it would be the very first thing that should be done. The money saved on all the freeloaders, could easily go for healthcare and there would still a lot of $ left for other stuff, like building infrastructure, thus creating thousands of new jobs...

A bloody easy call...
 
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We can take better care of our own than we do now without sacrificing our compassion or our humanity.

The way things are going with healthcare, citizens will die - losing insurance because of a pre existing condition, premiums priced beyond what people can affford...

I guess that saves someone money too, but at what cost?
 
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For those of you dead set against immigration and asylum seekers, are you Native American? If not, why did your family come here? Why would you deny that to someone else?

I was born here, that make me native American.

Why haven't you sponsored a immigrant family yet? I'm beginning to think you're all talk.
 
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Same guy who defended public sadomasochism, public nudity and sexualization of children who aren't related to Trump.

haha, even when I'm sleeping, you're lying. First 2 parts, yes, as discussed in this thread, public event. Last part, no, that's you lying again. You can't quote me on that. However, you have no problem with what Trump did or supporting a pedophile for public office. And then in reply to Gilsan. An islamaphobic, homophobic, sexist, racist, who once posted women deserve to get assaulted based on how they're dressed and you 2 guys ok with assaulting women/grabbing ass. Like I said, I would leave the moral stuff alone.

unlike you I'm capable of critical thought.

lol

I was born here, that make me native American.

Another lol. That's called citizen, not Native American.

The critical thought. When you post here it really reminds me of the movie E.T. Where Trump is E.T. minus any goodness and you just kind of have a mind meld with him. Where you have these need to defend him on anything, somebody who literally is the biggest liar ever in office. You had to sell yourself and your Christianity out for him. Even the head of his own religious council has a problem with what he's doing now.


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Poor Barron

WITCH HUNT! There was no Russian Collusion. Oh, I see, there was no Russian Collusion, so now they look for obstruction on the no Russian Collusion. The phony Russian Collusion was a made up Hoax. Too bad they didn’t look at Crooked Hillary like this. Double Standard!
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I was born here, that make me native American.

Why haven't you sponsored a immigrant family yet? I'm beginning to think you're all talk.

That’s not a “Native American” - lol! You’re a descendent of immigrants like most of the rest of us.
Anyone who’s known me for a while on this forum knows that when someone here needs help I’m one of the first ones to step up. That also applies to people I don’t know personally. I help in the ways I am best suited to help - none of your business what that entails.
 
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MSNBC Joy Ried and panel have a melt down b/c a 18 year old son was separated from his mother.

This was the same policy under Obama, but now we care now because Trump is just like hitler.
http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/n...eparated-from-parents-at-border-1257822275666


Hands up don't shoot.

cnn-hands-up.jpg
 
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That’s not a “Native American” - lol! You’re a descendent of immigrants like most of the rest of us.
Anyone who’s known me for a while on this forum knows that when someone here needs help I’m one of the first ones to step up. That also applies to people I don’t know personally. I help in the ways I am best suited to help - none of your business what that entails.

Like most people, you help by being outraged on the Internet.

New flash even the "first" Americans migrated here from Asia. Every country has taken land from someone.
 
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Someone is woke and triggered.

haha, even when I'm sleeping, you're lying. First 2 parts, yes, as discussed in this thread, public event. Last part, no, that's you lying again. You can't quote me on that. However, you have no problem with what Trump did or supporting a pedophile for public office. And then in reply to Gilsan. An islamaphobic, homophobic, sexist, racist, who once posted women deserve to get assaulted based on how they're dressed and you 2 guys ok with assaulting women/grabbing ass. Like I said, I would leave the moral stuff alone.



lol



Another lol. That's called citizen, not Native American.

The critical thought. When you post here it really reminds me of the movie E.T. Where Trump is E.T. minus any goodness and you just kind of have a mind meld with him. Where you have these need to defend him on anything, somebody who literally is the biggest liar ever in office. You had to sell yourself and your Christianity out for him. Even the head of his own religious council has a problem with what he's doing now.


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Poor Barron

WITCH HUNT! There was no Russian Collusion. Oh, I see, there was no Russian Collusion, so now they look for obstruction on the no Russian Collusion. The phony Russian Collusion was a made up Hoax. Too bad they didn’t look at Crooked Hillary like this. Double Standard!
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
 
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New flash even the "first" Americans migrated here from Asia.

Gee golly - thanks for the mansplained history lesson Mister Pocahontas!

Unless you were ineptly home schooled, you know very well that these early inhabitants and their descendants are considered to be the continent’s indigenous people.
 
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Laura Bush: Separating children from their parents at the border ‘breaks my heart’

"I live in a border state. I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart.....


Our government should not be in the business of warehousing children in converted box stores or making plans to place them in tent cities in the desert outside of El Paso. These images are eerily reminiscent of the Japanese American internment camps of World War II, now considered to have been one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. history......."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/f2df...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.09c9251cf497

Probably some distraction posts coming in 4, 3, 2, 1...........

I guess DNWon does't read the articles he posts either:

"Unaccompanied minors, including young girls under the age of 12, are making the dangerous journey from Central America and Mexico, through cartel-controlled territories, and across the porous border onto U.S. soil."


Unaccompanied minors vs. Trump policy of removing minors from their parents.
 
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Gee golly - thanks for the mansplained history lesson Mister Pocahontas!

Unless you were ineptly home schooled, know very well that these early inhabitants and their descendants are considered to be the continent’s indigenous people.

You welcome virtuous liberal. My ancestors were Vikings and roamed the northeast before most "indigenous" people knew what a horse was. BTW, "indigenous" has been replaced by "first peoples".

I would have thought a smart, virtuous liberal like yourself would keep up on that kind of important information.
 
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