The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[enlytend]

FWIW you have all probably been a public restroom with a trans person many times over the years and never realized it.

But make a law about it and folks lose their s***...

LGBTQ people use bathrooms for the same reason as the rest of us - to pee or take a dump.

Anyone in a bathroom to peep or to molest kids is a criminal regardless of gender, gender identity or orientation and should be dealt with as a criminal. Other labels are irrelevant - “criminal” will do.

 

[enlytend]

“Be Best”... at plagiarism?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/07/melania-trump-plagiarism-row-be-best-campaign

I’ve always held back on criticizing Melania, but this isn’t the first time she’s been caught copying something Michelle did or said. Did she have any say in this or did she delegate it, plannng to just say a few words about it after the fact? If so, are her staff / advisors that stupid? Did they think nobody would notice?

If she didn’t know, it’s time for her to be a little more “hands on.” If she did know, the classy thing to do would be to give her predecessor credit - for example:

“I admire the work my predecessor as First Lady did with her fantastic “be better” program for children. Thank you so much, Michelle! Today I’m here to announce that I’m building on that foundation she put down and taking it a step further with my new “Be Best” program”

There. Easy!

 

[mr-x]

What really cracks me up is, you think there is some malice or bigotry involved in facts that threaten your liberal, PC beliefs. You fall back to insults and accusations.

I'll don't have a lot of time, so I'll make another post in the future summarizing it all for you.

John. It's probably been a lifetime of programming/brainwashing, I get it. I've been brainwashed too. Today, I can't buy a Ford since I've been brainwashed that Chevy > Ford. I would be disowned from the family if I ever bought a Ford. The difference is, my brainwashing doesn't hurt anybody and is actually true, Chevy > Ford.

And no, it's called pedophilia:

sexual feelings directed toward children.

Pedophilia, or paedophilia, is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

Transgender:
denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.

Now, where do you see in there raping, messing with kids? That would be the pedophile that's most likely to do that.

Let's use your thinking for a second. You're basically saying the Church and Scouts are just full of homosexuals, when they're not even supposed to be allowed in. I guess they somehow let thousands thru without anybody noticing. But again, your thinking it not really thinking but some kind of mental block. That you can't read articles, watch videos for another perspective, or struggle with a basic dictionary.

I did that for you, got the definition:
denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.

But for you, it's some 6 foot 6, 250 pound marauding sexual animal that's just praying on kids. Let's find some mugshots and some exceptions to try to make a case. Problem is they're perverts/pedophiles. You like to make people that are different from you, something to watch out for, something that will hurt you etc. It's just ignorant.

 

[JB Lions]

What really cracks me up is, you think there is some malice or bigotry involved in facts that threaten your liberal, PC beliefs. You fall back to insults and accusations.

I'll don't have a lot of time, so I'll make another post in the future summarizing it all for you.

No, I used a dictionary to explain things to you. Since, to this day, you don't know what pedophile means and continue to confuse it with homosexual. I know you don't have a problem with that, with your support of Moore, but most do.

Gays - We want to be able to marry the people we love

Some Christians - This is an outrage, we must stop this

Now which group isn't being decent here?

Just be decent and let people live their lives. If you're bored to the point where you care about stuff like this, go get a hobby, get some fresh air.

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Looks like at 2pm today, we'll get another bad decision from Trump on the Iran deal.

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Ahh.. those horrible Christians.

They are the ones that fought against gay marriage, like yourself, and the ones trying to take rights away from people. So yes, you own it. You guys should mind your own business, get out of other people's lives.

 

[mr-x]

Ahh.. those horrible Christians.

No, I used a dictionary to explain things to you. Since, to this day, you don't know what pedophile means and continue to confuse it with homosexual. I know you don't have a problem with that, with your support of Moore, but most do.

Gays - We want to be able to marry the people we love

Some Christians - This is an outrage, we must stop this

Now which group isn't being decent here?

Just be decent and let people live their lives. If you're bored to the point where you care about stuff like this, go get a hobby, get some fresh air.

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Looks like at 2pm today, we'll get another bad decision from Trump on the Iran deal.

 

[mr-x]

Clown show.

 

[JB Lions]

Clown show.

or

The Met Gala, formally called the Costume Institute Gala and also known as the Met Ball, is an annual fundraising gala for the benefit of the Metropolitan Museum of Art's Costume Institute in New York City. It marks the grand opening of the Costume Institute's annual fashion exhibit. Each year's event celebrates the theme of that year's Costume Institute exhibition, and the exhibition sets the tone for the formal dress of the night, since guests are expected to choose their fashion to match the theme of the exhibit. Each year, celebrities are chosen to serve as the event's honorary chairs.

 

[mr-x]

Clown Show that spends more money than it gives away.

** Hmm.. why do Hollywood charities focus on Hollywood instead of charity. P.S... those people were friends of Harvey Weinstein.

or

The Met Gala, formally called the Costume Institute Gala and also known as the Met Ball, is an annual fundraising gala for the benefit of the Metropolitan Museum of Art's Costume Institute in New York City. It marks the grand opening of the Costume Institute's annual fashion exhibit. Each year's event celebrates the theme of that year's Costume Institute exhibition, and the exhibition sets the tone for the formal dress of the night, since guests are expected to choose their fashion to match the theme of the exhibit. Each year, celebrities are chosen to serve as the event's honorary chairs.

 

[mr-x]

No, I used a dictionary to explain things to you. Since, to this day, you don't know what pedophile means and continue to confuse it with homosexual. I know you don't have a problem with that, with your support of Moore, but most do.

Gays - We want to be able to marry the people we love

Some Christians - This is an outrage, we must stop this

Now which group isn't being decent here?

Just be decent and let people live their lives. If you're bored to the point where you care about stuff like this, go get a hobby, get some fresh air.

--------------

Looks like at 2pm today, we'll get another bad decision from Trump on the Iran deal.

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They are the ones that fought against gay marriage, like yourself, and the ones trying to take rights away from people. So yes, you own it. You guys should mind your own business, get out of other people's lives.

So arrogantly stupid. Why don't you use that dictionary to look up pederastry and ephebophilia.

Catholic Church's own study show 80% of victims of sexual abuse were post-pubescent boys and the overwhelming majority of men were homosexuals, or as my friend @GILSAN explained, pederast.

Since most Boy Scouts are post-pubescent, and what we know of human nature, it's not outlandish bigotry to expect the similar stats.

To bring us back to full circle, boys' get plenty of co-ed time at public schools, sports and gasp.. church. Hopefully, the Scouts will keep boys and girls separate so boys can be free to express their masculinity while learning good citizenship.

 

[mr-x]

Gender Insanity.

 

[mr-x]

“Be Best”... at plagiarism?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/07/melania-trump-plagiarism-row-be-best-campaign

I’ve always held back on criticizing Melania, but this isn’t the first time she’s been caught copying something Michelle did or said. Did she have any say in this or did she delegate it, plannng to just say a few words about it after the fact? If so, are her staff / advisors that stupid? Did they think nobody would notice?

If she didn’t know, it’s time for her to be a little more “hands on.” If she did know, the classy thing to do would be to give her predecessor credit - for example:

“I admire the work my predecessor as First Lady did with her fantastic “be better” program for children. Thank you so much, Michelle! Today I’m here to announce that I’m building on that foundation she put down and taking it a step further with my new “Be Best” program”

There. Easy!

You'll be glad to know you can stop being outraged. The First Lady was asked and agreed to promote this book, written in 2009.

 

[mr-x]

You make a good point. Many transvestites blend in but many don't. Like the man taking up-skirt photos in the women's bathroom.

Or the 16 year old boy with a penis demanding he be allowed to share the same locker room and gym showers the girls use.

Call me old fashioned, I like separate facilities.

FWIW you have all probably been a public restroom with a trans person many times over the years and never realized it.

But make a law about it and folks lose their s***...

LGBTQ people use bathrooms for the same reason as the rest of us - to pee or take a dump.

Anyone in a bathroom to peep or to molest kids is a criminal regardless of gender, gender identity or orientation and should be dealt with as a criminal. Other labels are irrelevant - “criminal” will do.

 

[Kate]

I'm curious, how many trans people, or gays do you know personally, or interact with on a daily basis ?
I work in companies where there is diversity and all those groups are represented (I forgot to mention I work in a decadent place). What makes you think they are any different than other people really ? There is a lot of diversity among LGBT people, just like in the rest of society.

 

[GILSAN]

Clown show.

Is that Rihanna, the brown clown dressed up as the Pope? Lucky for her the Catholics won't slit her throat in rage, as the followers of the Religion of Peace would do, if she were to dress up as an Imam...

 

[JB Lions]

Obama statement on what our dumb President did today:

There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That's why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.

The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America's interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran's nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.

That is why today's announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America's closest allies, and an agreement that our country's leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America's credibility, and puts us at odds with the world's major powers.

Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it's important to review several facts about the JCPOA.

First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran's nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.

Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran's nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran's entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won't happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that's precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran's destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America's own security; and trigger an arms race in the world's most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran's nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.
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Related?

Iran military base in Syria attacked, sources say

The attack happened in Kisweh, according to the official news agency SANA, about an hour after President Trump's announcement that he would be pulling the U.S. out of the Iran nuclear deal.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/08/iran-military-base-in-syria-attacked-sources-say.html

BREAKING: Israeli airstrike reportedly targeting Iranian weapons convey bombed near Damscus in Syria.
Israel Breaking‏ @IsraelBreaking 2h2 hours ago


Israel trying to get us into war again.

 

[enlytend]

Hmmm ... Cohen’s got some ‘splainin’ to do...

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/05/08/politics/robert-mueller-russian-oligarch-payments-michael-cohen/index.html

 

[GILSAN]

Folsom Street Fair, San Francisco... the most decadent filthy place on earth. This is what Liberals will always defend. They think family values is a thing of the past, but this is perfectly acceptable... for them

https://www.timeout.com/san-francisco/things-to-do/our-best-photos-from-folsom-street-fair-2016

Is this permited in other cities of the US?

And it should be mentioned that these are very tame photos, because I've seen some absolutely despicable pictures from this Folsom Street Fair that I won't put up here.

There were guys having sex as well as openly masturbating, in the streets, selling sex toys with images of Jesus and Mary, among other massively deviant stuff. There were creeps and pedophiles and the worst sorts of deviants, all gathered together with no fear of repercussions for any illegal activity.

I even saw pictures of children in the middle of these creeps and sickos. I'll bet it was a gay Liberal judge that permited this to happen. No one in his right mind would allow this filth to happen in the open street, except for retarded lefties and gays...

Has any gay EVER complained about these perverts doing this in Folsom Street?Or is this is their Mecca, a place to go for their annual perversions, with the full consent of the local laws?

How on earth can a normal person accept these deviant creeps and pervs doing in public what they’d get arrested for doing in a public restroom anywhere else in America or the rest of the world?

Must be because of gay priviledge...

 

[GILSAN]

British singer Lily Allen claims she has NO space for refugees in luxury London flat
LILY ALLEN has declared there's no space for refugees at her luxury Notting Hill flat despite previously pledging to take some in.
https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity...ndon-flat-sylvester-stallone-rambo-fifth-film

Lily Allen says she would have refugees living in her home

I’m really in SHOCK that a liberal Celebrity demanded other people take in migrants while also claiming on BBC that she would take in some... Now the lying cow says she can't.

Do as I say... not as I do...

Apparently JK Rowling doesn't have space in her 25,000 square foot mansion either...

 

[mr-x]

I'm curious, how many trans people, or gays do you know personally, or interact with on a daily basis ?
I work in companies where there is diversity and all those groups are represented (I forgot to mention I work in a decadent place). What makes you think they are any different than other people really ? There is a lot of diversity among LGBT people, just like in the rest of society.

I've known a half-dozen LGBT people. A person in my family has transitioned from female to male. Another is struggling with the issue. Both experienced serious abuse.

Despite JB's accusations and slander, I'm not advocating against LGBTQ people.

I criticized the Boy Scouts for continually compromising their values to the point they are no-longer Boy Scouts.

Boy's need a place where they are free of other distractions and can be taught citizenship and service. There are numerous opportunities for co-ed education and interaction at school, etc.

JB's upset and posted about numerous cases of abuse that have happened in the Boy Scouts and Catholic church. Most of that abuse was perpetrated on post-puberty boys by homosexual men. ( liberal blasphemy )

I admit to trolling him a bit, but my position that children, women, men should not be forced to share the most private areas where we disrobe, shower, etc. with the other sex.

There are numerous examples of this being abused by predators and the liberal response is shut up bigot.

My views on this are normal. If you think a teenage boy should share private spaces with teenage girls, your view is a minority for good reason.

 

[mr-x]

Team Obama "shadow government" made the situation worse by negotiating without authority.

If it was so important to world peace, President Obama should have convinced congress to ratify his policy as a treaty. That's what successful Presidents do.

Obama statement on what our dumb President did today:

There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That's why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.

The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America's interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran's nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.

That is why today's announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America's closest allies, and an agreement that our country's leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America's credibility, and puts us at odds with the world's major powers.

Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it's important to review several facts about the JCPOA.

First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran's nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.

Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran's nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran's entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won't happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that's precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran's destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America's own security; and trigger an arms race in the world's most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran's nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.
------------------------
Related?

Iran military base in Syria attacked, sources say

The attack happened in Kisweh, according to the official news agency SANA, about an hour after President Trump's announcement that he would be pulling the U.S. out of the Iran nuclear deal.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/08/iran-military-base-in-syria-attacked-sources-say.html

BREAKING: Israeli airstrike reportedly targeting Iranian weapons convey bombed near Damscus in Syria.
Israel Breaking‏ @IsraelBreaking 2h2 hours ago


Israel trying to get us into war again.