The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[offthehandle]

HIstory speaks for itself.

Why doesn't Hillary Blame Huma, Weiner and Comey on her apology tour?
Huma had classified documents?, Comey hid that fact?

I see george had a few words before.

https://www.lyincomey.com/

Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) Called Comey's Actions During The Campaign One Of The "Lowest Moments In The History Of The FBI" And Compared Them To The Wiretapping Of Civil Rights Icon Martin Luther King, Jr. SEN. TIM KAINE (D-VA): "I think [the letter] will go down as probably the lowest moment in the history of the FBI, probably next to the decision of J. Edgar Hoover to wiretap Martin Luther King." (CNN's " New Day," 5/05/17)

• Kaine Accused Comey Of A Violation Of Normal Justice Department Protocol With His "Unprecedented" Letter Before The Election. KAINE: "Now this is an unprecedented move, as your folks were describing earlier, because it happens close to an election, which is in violation of normal Justice Department protocol, and involves talking about an ongoing investigation, which violates the protocol." (ABC's " This Week With George Stephanopoulos ," 10/30/16)
• Kaine Said Comey's Actions Were "Extremely Puzzling," And That He Owed "The American Public More Information." ABC's GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOUS: "Howard Dean, former Democratic candidate for president said 'He may have destroyed the credibility of the FBI forever and put himself on the same side as Putin.' Do you agree with that?" KAINE: "What I said when I talk about this Friday is that this is just extremely puzzling. Why would you break these two protocols? Why would you release information that is so incomplete when you haven't even seen the material yourself? Eleven days before the election, why would you talk about the investigation? I just have no way of understanding these actions. They are completely unprecedented and that's why he owes the American public more information." (ABC's " This Week With George Stephanopoulos ," 10/30/16)

" In A Last-Minute Effort To Save Hillary Clinton's Bid For The White House," Top Obama Adviser Valerie Jarrett Reportedly Urged President Obama To Fire Comey Before The Election In 2016. "In a last-minute effort to save Hillary Clinton's bid for the White House, Barack Obama's chief adviser, Valerie Jarrett, has urged the president to fire FBI Director James Comey, according to a source close to Jarrett. Obama and Jarrett are furious with Comey for reopening the FBI's investigation of Clinton's emails just 11 days before the presidential election. They blame Comey for Clinton's alarming slide in the polls." (Edward Klein, "Obama Aides Want Comey Out After Email Bombshell," New York Post , 11/2/16)

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) Said That Given Comey's Actions, If Hillary Clinton Won The White House "She Should Have Fired Him." MSNBC's PETER ALEXANDER: "Understood. So if Hillary Clinton had won the White House, would you have recommended that she fire FBI Director James Comey?" REP. MAXINE WATERS (D-CA): "Well, let me tell you something. If she had won the White House, I believe that given what he did to her, and what he tried to do, she should have fired him. Yes." (MSNBC's "MSNBC Live With Peter Alexander," 05/10/17)

• At A Press Conference, Waters Said Comey "Has No Credibility." REP. MAXINE WATERS (D-CA): "All I can tell you is the FBI Director has no credibility." ("Russian Election Interference Meeting Stakeout," CSPAN , 01/13/17)
• Waters Reiterated In March 2017 That The American People Understand Why She Believes That FBI Director Comey Has "No Credibility." "'I think the American people now understand one reason why I believe FBI Director Comey has no credibility.'" (Press Release, "Rep. Waters: FBI Director Comey Advanced Russia's Misinformation Campaign," The Office Of Maxine Waters , 3/21/17)
  
  

 

[JB Lions]

https://www.lyincomey.com/

Paid for by the Republican National Committee.

Oh, they're nervous. I'm going to enjoy November.

 

[GILSAN]

Love Katie Hopkins... so does Tucker. She says it as it is. Main reason London crime has now overtaken New York is because of Black gangs. Authorities ofcourse will NOT admit this fact because that would offend Black gangs and we can't have that now, can we?

Off to bed as it's already 5.15 AM and I can already hear some birds singing...

 

[offthehandle]

There's no "Pipeline War" going on. Russia will not cut gas exports to the EU unless they stop paying... like what happened with Ukraine a few years back. No pay, no gas... very simple.

BBC lying about Hungarian police as an immigrant throws his wife and kid on the tracks

This is the pic that was widely shown around the world to make it seem that the Hungarian police beat them to the ground...

Well at least the Hungarian's populist movement keeps the country as only a train transit hub, not a destination.

So you don't believe this is the true root of the Syrian Problem?

 

[offthehandle]

Love Katie Hopkins... so does Tucker. She says it as it is. Main reason London crime has now overtaken New York is because of Black gangs. Authorities ofcourse will NOT admit this fact because that would offend Black gangs and we can't have that now, can we?

Where are these gangs from Northern and Central Africa? Katie, Like Nigel Farage, outspoken, smart, brutally honest. She said it all.

 

[JB Lions]

Love Katie Hopkins... so does Tucker. She says it as it is. Main reason London crime has now overtaken New York is because of Black gangs. Authorities ofcourse will NOT admit this fact because that would offend Black gangs and we can't have that now, can we?

Off to bed as it's already 5.15 AM and I can already hear some birds singing...

Gilsan back, lying back. Good chance to talk about blacks, racist people love doing that.

New York population - 8.538 million
London population - 8.788 million

Murders in 2017
New York City murders - 292 - more than double
London murders - 130

The data above in the video was only looking at 2 months, a month where London just had a rash of stabbings. It's better to go year vs. year. But people like to cherry pick data for their own reasons.

Another example of that. Recently, I was looking at some murder chart and was surprised to see a surge in 2016 and Orlando was listed as one of the worst places as far as that. That was the year of the Orlando Nightclub shooting, terrorism, and they counted those 50 in the total. It's bad in Orlando but not that high. You need to read into the data a little more. Going off of only 2 months of data, is a joke. It would be like me only using that 1 month of data when that nightclub shooting occured and saying, Orlando has the highest murder rate in the United States. Oh my, what is going on in Orlando.

 

[JB Lions]

Katie, Like Nigel Farage, outspoken, smart, brutally honest. She said it all.

Had to Google her, never heard of her, after watching that video, wasn't too sure about smart and "honest."

Accused of racism.
Terminated for comments made.
Had to pay up for falsely accusing a Muslim family of extremist links.
Lost another libel case to somebody else.
Joins a far-right website.

Some former reality TV contestant.

So some racist, anti-Muslim person, that had to pay up for lying multiple times, I can understand why Gilsan likes her.

"Hopkins has been accused of racism by journalists, advocacy groups and politicians for her comments about migrants. Her role as a presenter for the radio station LBC was terminated in May 2017 following her comments on Twitter about the Manchester Arena bombing.

In 2016, Mail Online was forced to pay £150,000 to a Muslim family whom Hopkins had falsely accused of extremist links. In a 2017 libel case, Hopkins was required to pay £24,000 in damages and £107,000 in legal costs to the writer Jack Monroe after making defamatory remarks on Twitter. Later in 2017, Mail Online was forced to pay substantial damages and legal costs to a teacher about whom Hopkins had made false claims. A day before, in late November, it had become known Hopkins' contract with the media outlet had not been renewed. Her final column was published on 5 October 2017.She joined the Canadian far-right website The Rebel Media in January 2018."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Hopkins

Where are these gangs from Northern and Central Africa?

He's some almost 70 year old man living in Portugal. Is he supposed to be some London gang expert? You're on the internet. Google it, you'll just get lies from him. Do you think he has some secret source of information or something? He just grabs crap off right wing hate sites, if you haven't figured that out yet.

 

[offthehandle]

It's bad in Orlando but not that high.

So if someone were a foreign tourist with kids, and asked me for an honest opinion of where to choose?
I would actually tell them to ignore the chart, because Orlando is a great destination, easy to get by air, easy to go around all over, entire week filled of fun parks, etc.

I would not recommend Anaheim unless they wanted to also go see the Hollywood stuff, since compared to a all inclusive fun park type vacation- makes more sense to go to Orlando, I always tell people that. Disneyland is all by itself and hotels surrounding, and not the best area to be honest. You have to drive all over stuck in traffic for hours to see all the tourist stuff in LA, but there is a lot to see, could take a month to see most of it. Though the nice weather can't be compared to anywhere else.

So based on the combined stats- they make up these scales. Interesting that Compton, Chicago and Orlando are about the same based on overall population. But if you look close, the overall rates are distorted depending.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Orlando-Florida.html

Well Disneyworld area is this:

And surprised that Disneyland is this:

But you are up there with Chicago, based on their metrics.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Chicago-Illinois.html

 

[JB Lions]

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make? I always said Orlando is bad with crime. I was talking about the murder rate in 2016. It was shown to be very high but it was because of the 50 that died in the nightclub shooting. It's why you can't just use those 2 months in London. Let's wait until the year is over, then compare London vs. New York City. NYC had more than double the murders of London last year, I doubt London will overtake NYC in 2018.

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Trump is up late, he's got TPP on his mind, complete flip flop:

Would only join TPP if the deal were substantially better than the deal offered to Pres. Obama. We already have BILATERAL deals with six of the eleven nations in TPP, and are working to make a deal with the biggest of those nations, Japan, who has hit us hard on trade for years!
11:15 PM - 12 Apr 2018
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

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My brothers in Bilderberg have informed me Trump will fire Rosenstein tomorrow, the usual big news on Friday, then golf on the weekend. We are firmly implanted in key positions. Trump is eating a cheeseburger, watching Fox right now. I'm being told they feel they've made a great case for firing him, and that his supporters will of course support the decision. Trump is desperate, feeling like a cornered animal and is not thinking clearly about the repercussions. He's in an IDGAF mood. It'll be a crazy Friday.

 

[enlytend]

As for the chemical attack in Syria. There's absolutely no proof. Just some manipulated, pre-planned fake images of some guys hosing down some children with water. It's Liberal Media propaganda that almost got Trump to attack Syria.

Tell that to the dead kids’ parents. You have no proof of your “false flag” conspiracy nonsense claims, and your favorite US president thinks otherwise:

“Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!”

Paid for by the Republican National Committee.

Comey’s a private citizen now. A political party (and Comey is a Republican) planning a marketing campaign (website, ads) to harass and try to discredit a private US citizen, hoping to affect his book sales, is appallingly un-American.

If you don’t see what’s wrong with this, sorry but you’re part of the problem.

 

[GILSAN]

Looks like the Thought Police on this Political Forum has removed my first post after returning, were I said: "The Infidel is back to Planet USA for a short spell. Spent nearly the whole day reading posts to catch up"

Trying to copy Twitter and FakeBook, are we?

 

[GILSAN]

Tell that to the dead kids’ parents. You have no proof of your “false flag” conspiracy nonsense claims, and your favorite US president thinks otherwise:

“Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!”

On 23 April 2016, the United Nations and Arab League Envoy to Syria put out an estimate of 400,000 that had died in the war.

So were is the proof that this chemical attack actually happened? Show me...

U.S. "looking for the actual evidence" of Syria chemical attack, Mattis says
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-looking-for-the-actual-evidence-of-syria-chemical-attack-mattis-says/

Trump made a mistake with the false information about this supposed attack. I don't believe there will be any strike by the US on Syria, because they don't have proof. And if they do strike it will be on some place in the desert that's already been totally destroyed from the war.

 

[GILSAN]

Well at least the Hungarian's populist movement keeps the country as only a train transit hub, not a destination.

Hungary's right wing nationalist government just won a slightly over 2/3 majority in last weeks elections and they are totally against any Muslim invasion of their country and will NOT accept the EU imposition of recieving any refugees into their country. Very wise decision.

The EU is very pissed off with them, but who gives a f**k what Brussels thinks, besides the lefties.

Hungary has already built a wall along their southern and eastern border, precisely to stop the illegal invasion that was causing chaos.

So you don't believe this is the true root of the Syrian Problem?

Oh, I thought your "Pipeline War" comment was something else.

Yes, it does seem logical that Russia may not like the idea of having a pipeline going from gas fields in Qatar and Iran passing through Syria. There is also the fact that Russia has a Naval and Air base in Syria, which gives them access to the Mediterranean, so they want to maintain Assad in power.

This is an interesting read:

How would you explain Syrian crisis to a layman?
https://prep4gdpi.wordpress.com/2017/01/02/how-would-you-explain-syrian-crisis-to-a-layman/

Qatar and Iran could use alternative routes to build their pipeline to Europe or they could build LNG plants as another alternative

 

[JB Lions]

The Libby thing, wink to Manafort.

Trump
"I don't know Mr. Libby, but for years I have heard that he has been treated unfairly,"

I probably did more reading on Libby in a few minutes last night, then Trump has to this point.

James Comey is a proven LEAKER & LIAR. Virtually everyone in Washington thought he should be fired for the terrible job he did-until he was, in fact, fired. He leaked CLASSIFIED information, for which he should be prosecuted. He lied to Congress under OATH. He is a weak and.....

....untruthful slime ball who was, as time has proven, a terrible Director of the FBI. His handling of the Crooked Hillary Clinton case, and the events surrounding it, will go down as one of the worst “botch jobs” of history. It was my great honor to fire James Comey!

DOJ just issued the McCabe report - which is a total disaster. He LIED! LIED! LIED! McCabe was totally controlled by Comey - McCabe is Comey!! No collusion, all made up by this den of thieves and lowlifes!
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6h

Probably watching these clips:

 

[enlytend]

James Comey is a proven LEAKER & LIAR.

So he pardons a convicted leaker and liar.

Not that he actually cares about Libby, he’s sending a message.

 

[enlytend]

Syrian attack: There are pictures and accounts. Burden of proof is on you if you think it’s fake.

More like the US won’t strike Syria because Russia is supporting Assad and we’re tiptoeing around Russia, despite the tweet.

I thought 45s supporters think he’s infallible? If he believes there was an attack how could he be wrong?

 

[offthehandle]

Republicans not a fan of women's health. Abortion legal in every modern society, banned in backwards countries. And that's just a part of what they do.

Worldwide, Most have restrictions where legal. This is a money issue, private funds from Rich leftists like Soros should be donated instead of Antifa or other by liberals instead of blaming. Some Republicans are simply not interested in the state paying for abortions period due to strict religious values, you should respect that at least no matter what political affiliation. Others feel paying with tax dollars it is wrong and should be paid out-of-pocket, and not as an irresponsible alternative for normal birth control, by women who don’t take personal responsibility. “Every modern society”, I guess your consideration is only 1st world? But you didn’t look up the laws, don’t you consider Ireland or Mexico, even El Salvador modern? They don’t still live in caves and cook in campfires in that many places. Besides that, fortunately most have a 3 month window only where it is legal.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...aws-around-the-world-from-bans-to-easy-access

 

[johname]

Now it all makes sense.

"Libby's only novel, The Apprentice"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooter_Libby

 

[JB Lions]

Worldwide, Most have restrictions where legal. This is a money issue, private funds from Rich leftists like Soros should be donated instead of Antifa or other by liberals instead of blaming. Some Republicans are simply not interested in the state paying for abortions period due to strict religious values, you should respect that at least no matter what political affiliation. Others feel paying with tax dollars it is wrong and should be paid out-of-pocket, and not as an irresponsible alternative for normal birth control, by women who don’t take personal responsibility. “Every modern society”, I guess your consideration is only 1st world? But you didn’t look up the laws, don’t you consider Ireland or Mexico, even El Salvador modern? They don’t still live in caves and cook in campfires in that many places. Besides that, fortunately most have a 3 month window only where it is legal.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...aws-around-the-world-from-bans-to-easy-access

Something about Soros and Antifa in an abortion conversation.

As far as Ireland:
"Irish abortion law received worldwide attention on the death of Savita Halappanavar in 2012, who had been denied an abortion while suffering a septic miscarriage. This increased calls to repeal the constitutional protection for the life of the unborn."

"The government has proposed the Thirty-sixth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, which if passed in a referendum on 25 May 2018 would replace the current provisions of Article 40.3.3º with a clause allowing legislation regulating the termination of pregnancy."

Next month, they can join the rest of the civilized world.

 

[mr-x]

So he pardons a convicted leaker and liar.

Not that he actually cares about Libby, he’s sending a message.

Libby wasn't the source of the leak. He lied about discussing Valery Plame with a reporter. A lot of people say it was entrapment.

But definitely a signal to Flynn & company.