The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

Are Trump’s Staff Turnovers Abnormal?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/08/trump-staff-turnover-normal-abnormal-too-soon-tell/
Do you believe it b/c it was said about someone you hate or do you use reason.

Does 34% includes democrats who quit and would normally be replaced?

Extrapolation? No, it's facts:

Trump Staff Turnover Hits 34%—a First Year Presidential Record

"In 2017, 34% of President Trump’s staff was either been fired, resigned, or reassigned. Trump’s first year turnover rate is exactly double that of Reagan’s 17% in 1981, which is the next highest in the past 40 years."

http://fortune.com/2017/12/28/trump-white-house-record-first-year-turnover-rate/

Trump White House Saw Record Number of First-Year Staff Departure
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-...ber-of-first-year-staff-departures-1514457002

Poor hiring practices? Extreme vetting he says. So many, hard to keep track of them all.

 

[mr-x]

@JB Lions

Tell me again, what were Hillary Clinton's top three accomplishments? Why did you vote for her?

 

[DNWon]

You're not qualified to judge anyone's moral authority. Condemning an entire group of people based on someone eases behavior may be popular but is the definition of bigotry.

JB's whole political diatribe is based on this!

 

[mr-x]

When was the last time MS. Wallace talked about the murder rate in Chicago, a democratic city? Overwhelming violence in black neighborhoods is only reported on during elections.

Nicolle Wallace: ‘Let’s Be Honest’ Only Talking About Shooting Because Victims Were ‘White’

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...ce-lets-be-honest-only-talking-about-shooting

Liberal media can't help but try to divide American. She' thinks she being virtuous b/c she believes she's better than most of America.

Every talking head at MSNBC / CNN / ABC / CBS / NBC leapt at opportunities to defame / slander conservatives as racist troglodytes for the last 9 years. Enough is enough. These people are as responsible for the break down in our society as anyone.

 

[GILSAN]

Washington Sheriff Drops Truth Bomb on Society and School Shootings

 

[JB Lions]

JB's whole political diatribe is based on this!

It's based on reality. You know Trump is a moral failure, reply to this saying otherwise.

Again, your comments in bold:

"Taking guns from good people won't save you any more than sub-quoting someone."

Can you come up with something other than NRA talking points? Who said anything about taking guns away from good people. Can you quote something.

"You're not qualified to judge anyone's moral authority."

Of course I am. I don't sexually assault women, I don't sexualize kids, I don't cheat on my wife/gf, I don't support pedos, I don't run frauds on people, I'm not NRA's little bitch. Etc.

"Weird how you went from sex between consenting adults is irrelevant to crowing about it."

I wasn't crowing about it, just pointing out this stuff just adds up with him. I always said cheating on your wife isn't good, this is just more of it.

Then about NRA not owning Trump.

What do you think $30 million gets you? You think they just gave it to him for kicks?

It gets you anytime there is a mass shooting, not to mention guns even once.

It gets you rescinding a rule so that people with mental issues can buy guns.

This is all about gun sales. That's why they endorsed him and gave him and a lot of other Republicans millions.

Even kids understand this nowadays. Those HS students will be old enough to vote next election.

Talk about getting your ass handed to you, Trump and the NRA just got lit up by a high school girl, more spine than any of them.

NRA owns Trump/Republicans

 

[JB Lions]

Trump's week, does nothing but lose:

"The White House was sent reeling by the Florida school massacre, new indictments in the Russia probe, its own mishandling of domestic abuse claims against a top staffer, allegations that Trump covered up extra-marital affairs and another huge immigration fail."

 

[GILSAN]

 

[GILSAN]

 

[JB Lions]

So, will Republicans actually be against this. How about people posting in this thread, 21 for weapons like the AR-15?

Washington—Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) today announced she will introduce legislation to raise the age requirement for purchasing rifles from gun dealers, including assault weapons like the AR-15, to 21 years.

“Under current law, licensed gun dealers cannot sell a handgun to anyone under 21, but they are allowed to sell assault rifles like the AR-15 to anyone over 18. This policy is dangerous and makes absolutely no sense.

“I plan to introduce a bill to require all firearms purchases from gun dealers be restricted to individuals who are at least 21 years old. If you can’t buy a handgun or a bottle of beer, you shouldn’t be able to buy an AR-15.

Feinstein to Introduce Bill Setting Minimum Age for Rifle Purchasers

 

[Kate]

Will this make a difference ?
And also, why do you have to be 21 to be allowed to drink alcohol and not 18 ?
I don't understand that you are allowed to drive or buy weapons or enroll in the military at 18 but not drink alcohol ?

 

[JB Lions]

Will this make a difference ?
And also, why do you have to be 21 to be allowed to drink alcohol and not 18 ?
I don't understand that you are allowed to drive or buy weapons or enroll in the military at 18 but not drink alcohol ?

It would have in this case, plus it's just a common sense thing to do. If it's 21 for a handgun, should be 21 for AR-15.

As far as the ages, that's what I was talking about earlier, comparing driving/drinking ages in Germany or being able to join the military at 18 but can't have a beer. Seems a bit mixed up. Even looking at a 16 year old nowadays, thinking they're allowed to drive seems a bit crazy.

Seems like unrestricted driving is mostly 18 in Europe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_minimum_driving_age

Drinking, 16 in Germany
"The legal drinking age in Germany is 16, though kids must wait until they're 18 to drink spirits. That five-year difference to the US, where the drinking age is 21, appears to be significant."

http://www.dw.com/en/the-highs-and-lows-of-germanys-drinking-culture/a-2226609

I know this is true because I went to HS over there my first 2 years of HS. We literally had pics in our yearbook of kids drinking, imagine that here in the states. There was a German bar frequented by American HS kids over there, still gets talked about today.

 

[offthehandle]

“Deparities in wealth cannot be solved by the free market” Democrat platform per the video.

That sounds like it. Create lots of extra unneeded departments and Govt jobs instead of the free market creating them. Now you have permanent big bloated Government (Can’t fire “tenured” union employees) instead to supplement onerous, obtuse and unnecessary regulations that prevent private industry from success and worldwide competition, and their eventual failure.

 

[offthehandle]

I don't understand that you are allowed to drive or buy weapons or enroll in the military at 18 but not drink alcohol ?

We prefer people to be sober when they learn to drive or go hunting or to legitimate target practice.

 

[JB Lions]

We prefer people to be sober when they learn to drive or go hunting or to legitimate target practice.

Compare Germany/United States

 

[offthehandle]

Even looking at a 16 year old nowadays, thinking they're allowed to drive seems a bit crazy.

Looking at the common sense of 16 year olds in todays world might a reason to raise it to 21 for all 3 activities. Posting to facebook while driving wasn’t a problem until 10 years ago.

Compare Germany/United States

You might need to look abit deeper. The Germans are fortunate enough to have alternatives to cars. They have great short distant trains and that does not exist in Iowa or Orlando or LA. They walk home drunk too. Gotta have a car with suburbia life.

China and India are low because most don’t own cars.

 

[JB Lions]

Looking at the common sense of 16 year olds in todays world might a reason to raise it to 21 for all 3 activities. Posting to facebook while driving wasn’t a problem until 10 years ago.



You might need to look abit deeper. The Germans are fortunate enough to have alternatives to cars. They have great short distant trains and that does not exist in Iowa or Orlando or LA. They walk home drunk too. Gotta have a car with suburbia life.

It wasn't volume, it was percentage. Road accident deaths. Much smaller percentage in Germany involve alcohol. I asked about that in the past, teachers, family etc. about this type of stuff. What I touched on earlier. Learn to handle alcohol first before you get behind the wheel. Know your limits type of thing. Also, much harder to get a license in Germany. It's a joke here, mine was easy. Took Driver's Ed in school so didn't have to take the road test, then just needed to pass written. Just needed to get 15/20. Just once in my life.

Looking at the common sense of 16 year olds in todays world might a reason to raise it to 21 for all 3 activities. Posting to facebook while driving wasn’t a problem until 10 years ago.

We have some agreement here. I'm glad I got mine at 16 but now looking at 16 year olds, just seem too young, immature to get behind a wheel. Over in Europe, think they have better transportation systems and as some Germans told me, something about the village, everything close by, something like that. When I lived over there, was too young to drive but had no problem getting around. Buses, Strassenbahn (tram/cable car), trains, taxis on rare occasion etc.

 

[offthehandle]

The autobahn with no speed limit seems like it would have more accidents too.
So having speed limits like the US has cannot correlate with fatal accidents then either based on that logic. Because, the higher speeds would also mean a higher percentage of fatalities.

I imagine too the penalties in Germany are much worse than the US for drunk driving.

If I lived in Germany, I would not own a car. There are great Trains to go everywhere, that goes for most of all western Europe, and some of Asia. Makes no sense to drive. Drink and ride the train.

 

[JB Lions]

The autobahn with no speed limit seems like it would have more accidents too.
So having speed limits like the US has cannot correlate with fatal accidents then either based on that logic. Because, the higher speeds would also mean a higher percentage of fatalities.

I imagine too the penalties in Germany are much worse than the US for drunk driving.

If I lived in Germany, I would not own a car. There are great Trains to go everywhere, that goes for most of all western Europe, and some of Asia. Makes no sense to drive. Drink and ride the train.

I don't know, trying to find U.S. info, Germany:

"Safety. In 2014, autobahns carried 31% of motorized road traffic while accounting for 11% of Germany's traffic deaths. The autobahn fatality rate of 1.6 deaths per billion travel-kilometres compared favorably with the 4.6 rate on urban streets and 6.5 rate on rural roads."

Found this, seems like U.S. is twice as bad as Germany, even with them having liberal drinking laws, no speed limit on most of the autobahn - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

They're just better drivers over there. Harder to get license, have to be older to get it, etc.

I drove the autobahn once, last time I was over there. Rented Mercedes, I was going over 100 in the rain, I was getting blown by. It didn't seem like I was going that fast, that Mercedes was just so smooth.

Road fatalities per 100,000 motor vehicles
Germany - 6.8
United States - 12.9

Road fatalities per 100,000 inhabitants
Germany - 4.3
United States - 10.6

 

[JB Lions]

Just like they don’t want to solve the DACA problem, why didn’t the Democrats pass gun control legislation when they had both the House & Senate during the Obama Administration. Because they didn’t want to, and now they just talk!

6:45 PM - 17 Feb 2018
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Some responses - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/965009332042596352

Why don’t you do something

Ummmmmmm remember when you signed a bill into law making it easier for people with mental illness to buy guns? You are repulsive

Well guess what, you are in charge now. Step up and make the changes that they didn’t. That will show them how much better you are.

Funny how you think smart people buy into your bullshit manipulation. Save that for your base. The rest of us figured it out a long time ago. Go find a hooker and get off twitter.

So how long have you been President for and when do you actually start to take responsibility. Blaming everything on everyone else has a very limited shelf life before it becomes you. You've been President for over a year... when do you start doing things and stop blaming.

Prominent Republican Donor Issues Ultimatum on Assault Weapons
"A prominent Republican political donor demanded on Saturday that the party pass legislation to restrict access to guns, and vowed not to contribute to any candidates or electioneering groups that did not support a ban on the sale of military-style firearms to civilians."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...eapons/ar-BBJg5E7?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout