The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

Why would anyone defend MS-13? What good have they contributed to the US or the Sh*thole they came from?

Now @GILSAN, these are minors from a country that can't care for them. All they need is another chance.

BTW, one of those minors was on probation for using a knife to rob a store when he was arrested for murder.

If we're going to let these people into our country, they should be placed in communities like Beverly Hills, Manhattan, Pacific Palisades so they have the best chance to succeed.

 

[GILSAN]

Now @GILSAN, these are minors from a country that can't care for them. All they need is another chance.

If we're going to let these people into our country, they should be placed in communities like Beverly Hills, Manhattan, Pacific Palisades so they have the best chance to succeed.

Maybe those Hollywood actresses that have no time to raise babies, but prefer to adopt them... Here you go, take your pick...

 

[sofiapartner]

hahahahah

 

[sofiapartner]

Obama was getting records over half the time. So now it's a thing for you guys, but back when Obama was President and I was pointing it out, it wasn't?

Trump Ranks Sixth In Stock Market Performance Behind Obama And Clinton

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johndo...rmance-behind-obama-and-clinton/#1ca9b53f6644

Well Welll - Mr @JB Lions is still discussing politics. The man who called me "crazy" when I told him that Trump will win.

Real entertainment for the conservative gang in this thread.

 

[JB Lions]

Well Welll - Mr @JB Lions is still discussing politics. The man who called me "crazy" when I told him that Trump will win.

Real entertainment for the conservative gang in this thread.

That's the only thing you hold onto, haha.

As far as some of the crying about Dems sitting down, is this the first SOTU you have watched? It was your basic SOTU. This is what they do. I didn't hear anybody scream out liar, like they did with Obama, so you could make the case Republicans have actually treated the President worse.

MS-13, I'm fine with handling them, I don't see anybody having an issue with that. Handle all the gangs, but it's interesting with this kind of thing, only mentioning them. There are other gangs, we have a spike in white nationalist issues, etc. If he truly cared about innocent people being murdered, where is the bump stock issue? Or some of the other issues? I guess it only gets talked about if you have darker skin. Same with a drug crisis. It's a health issue if it's mostly white people being affected.

DACA deal, I actually am ok with this. That's how deals work. Both sides get what they want, both sides hate what they're giving up. Pathway to citizenship, I know most on the right don't like that.

Economy. Role reversal. If a Democrat was the next President and inherited a great economy. If they hopped on Twitter or started taking credit the first year, I would call them out too, because it's nonsense. You get sworn in, settle in, get your people together, figure out policy, try to enact policy, then in takes awhile for the policy to have an affect on the economy.

So a lot of the credit does go to Obama. Now as we get more into, it'll shift over. We have something real now, the GOP bill. We know how this is going to go. If it turns out great, it'll be the Trump Tax Plan, if it doesn't, Trump will call it the GOP bill. But either way, the GOP/Trump will own it. Good or bad.

Fixing infrastructure, I was always ok with this. I always thought America is pretty pathetic when it comes to this. Funny, you guys blocked Obama when he wanted it, now you're ok with it.

You guys turned to loving spending.

 

[JB Lions]

You're comparing one murder by a white racist to thousands by illegal aliens, using a loophole to enter the country.

Links please. You're basically just repeating what Trump said, which was rated half true:

"Thousands of Americans have been killed by illegal immigrants."
in a campaign rally in Springfield, Ohio – Thursday, October 27, 2016

I tried searching, I find stuff like:

"The American Immigration Council, a pro-immigrant nonprofit, analyzed data from the Census’ 2010 American Community Survey and found that about 1.6 percent of immigrant males between 18 and 39 years old were incarcerated, compared to 3.3 percent of the native-born population in that same age group. (The Census does not specify legal status.)"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...leaves-out-context-claim-about-immigrants-an/

 

[GILSAN]

Well Welll - Mr @JB Lions is still discussing politics. The man who called me "crazy" when I told him that Trump will win.

Real entertainment for the conservative gang in this thread.

But, but, but Mr. @sofiapartner didn't you hear that Trump only won thanks to the Russians...

 

[mr-x]

Obama was getting records over half the time. So now it's a thing for you guys, but back when Obama was President and I was pointing it out, it wasn't?

Trump Ranks Sixth In Stock Market Performance Behind Obama And Clinton

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johndo...rmance-behind-obama-and-clinton/#1ca9b53f6644

Links please. You're basically just repeating what Trump said, which was rated half true:

"Thousands of Americans have been killed by illegal immigrants."
in a campaign rally in Springfield, Ohio – Thursday, October 27, 2016

I tried searching, I find stuff like:

"The American Immigration Council, a pro-immigrant nonprofit, analyzed data from the Census’ 2010 American Community Survey and found that about 1.6 percent of immigrant males between 18 and 39 years old were incarcerated, compared to 3.3 percent of the native-born population in that same age group. (The Census does not specify legal status.)"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...leaves-out-context-claim-about-immigrants-an/

"a pro-immigrant nonprofit, analyzed census data from 2010."

Read the latest stats from AZ... where they took the time to separate crime by legal and illegal legal immigrants. 2X more likely to commit murder / rape.

Or you could just shovel more bullshit and scream that's racist.

 

[JB Lions]

Read the latest stats from AZ... where they took the time to separate crime by legal and illegal legal immigrants. 2X more likely to commit murder / rape.

Or you could just shovel more bullsh*t and scream that's racist.

I ask you to back it up and as usual, simply me asking you to back up a post, you fold. There is no link in that post. Typical.

 

[mr-x]

I ask you to back it up and as usual, simply me asking you to back up a post, you fold.

Go back in the thread, I've posted to stats and article by WaPo. Or just google.

 

[JB Lions]

Go back in the thread, I've posted to stats and article by WaPo. Or just google.

Lies. Not once have you posted a link saying illegal aliens have murdered thousands. You asking me to Google is your usual, I have no idea. And if you've posted stats in the thread, where? You suddenly don't know how to link?

Have you considered to maybe just stop reposting bs lies that Trump says? Stop acting like some parrot? You and Gilsan just repost bs after bs.

 

[mr-x]

Links please. You're basically just repeating what Trump said, which was rated half true:

"Thousands of Americans have been killed by illegal immigrants."
in a campaign rally in Springfield, Ohio – Thursday, October 27, 2016

I tried searching, I find stuff like:

"The American Immigration Council, a pro-immigrant nonprofit, analyzed data from the Census’ 2010 American Community Survey and found that about 1.6 percent of immigrant males between 18 and 39 years old were incarcerated, compared to 3.3 percent of the native-born population in that same age group. (The Census does not specify legal status.)"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...leaves-out-context-claim-about-immigrants-an/

Not quite as good as your "pro-immigration group" that analyzed census data from seven years ago but here it is.

Illegals commit crimes at double the rate of native-born: Study
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/26/illegals-commit-crimes-double-rate-native-born-stu/


MS-13 gains recruits and power in U.S. as teens surge across border
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...dbb23c75d82_story.html?utm_term=.4dd600e40f8f

 

[mr-x]

Now your putting words in my mouth.

JB Lying

Lies. Not once have you posted a link saying illegal aliens have murdered thousands. You asking me to Google is your usual, I have no idea. And if you've posted stats in the thread, where? You suddenly don't know how to link?

Have you considered to maybe just stop reposting bs lies that Trump says? Stop acting like some parrot? You and Gilsan just repost bs after bs.

 

[JB Lions]

Not quite as good as your "pro-immigration group" that analyzed census data from seven years ago but here it is.

Illegals commit crimes at double the rate of native-born: Study
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/26/illegals-commit-crimes-double-rate-native-born-stu/


MS-13 gains recruits and power in U.S. as teens surge across border
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...dbb23c75d82_story.html?utm_term=.4dd600e40f8f

So you know how to link. Now, maybe you can find one where illegals have murdered thousands, instead of linking to other stuff.

You just linked to some MS-13 article, when I said above, good, get them.

 

[mr-x]

Maybe you can find a the quote where I said illegals murdered thousands. ( but they have )

Don't get all salty b/c you don't like the truth.

So you know how to link. Now, maybe you can find one where illegals have murdered thousands, instead of linking to other stuff.

 

[JB Lions]

Maybe you can find a the quote where I said illegals murdered thousands. ( but they have )

Don't get all salty b/c you don't like the truth.

You're not aware of you own posting?

You're comparing one murder by a white racist to thousands by illegal aliens, using a loophole to enter the country.

 

[mr-x]

You're not aware of you own posting?

So.. are you saying illegal immigrants haven't murdered thousands of people? Can we count the one murdered by drunk drivers or just the gang members ?

 

[JB Lions]

So.. are you saying illegal immigrants haven't murdered thousands of people? Can we count the one murdered by drunk drivers or just the gang members ?

You made the comment, you tell me. I have no idea, tried searching and didn't come up anything saying that. You seem to think it's true based on what? Repeating Trump. Knowing he's the biggest liar we've ever had as President, you consider him a good source of information?

 

[mr-x]

You're not aware of you own posting?

You made the comment, you tell me. I have no idea, tried searching and didn't come up anything saying that. You seem to think it's true based on what? Repeating Trump. Knowing he's the biggest liar we've ever had as President, you consider him a good source of information?

Here you go vox boy.

The truth about crime, illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities

Previous administrations have deliberately kept Americans in the dark about illegal immigrant crimes...Most states and our federal government have kept information and statistics about illegal immigration, crimes committed by illegals and the costs borne by you the U.S. payer out of public view.

Once you read this article, you will quickly understand why.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...crime-illegal-immigrants-and-sanctuary-cities


Thousands of Federal Inmates Are in the U.S. Illegally, Administration Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/us/undocumented-immigrants-crimes.html

Why do liberals hate facts. Learn the truth, deal with the problem so we can let good people immigrate instead of just random crazy.

 

[JB Lions]

Here you go vox boy.

The truth about crime, illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities

Previous administrations have deliberately kept Americans in the dark about illegal immigrant crimes...Most states and our federal government have kept information and statistics about illegal immigration, crimes committed by illegals and the costs borne by you the U.S. payer out of public view.

Once you read this article, you will quickly understand why.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...crime-illegal-immigrants-and-sanctuary-cities


Thousands of Federal Inmates Are in the U.S. Illegally, Administration Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/21/us/undocumented-immigrants-crimes.html

Why do liberals hate facts. Learn the truth, deal with the problem so we can let good people immigrate instead of just random crazy.

You keep posting up stuff that has nothing to do with what I quoted you saying. If you had something, you would have thrown up that link by now.

When have I said illegal immigrants don't commit crime? Everybody can commit crime.