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You're right Kate.

I thought Obama administration would avoid more war, instead they lit north Africa on fire.
Hopefully, when US military has finished killing ISIS in the middle East, Gov.'s in north Africa can protect their citizens from the evil ideology that men have the right / duty to kill in the name of God.
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@GILSAN you see this yet?

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

No wonder they were so worried about Donald Trump being elected. I predict it will get about 12 seconds coverage on any network not named FOX.
Actually your prediction was about 12 seconds off... most Liberal Networks covered this Obama/Hezbollah story for ZERO seconds...
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This โ€News Black-Outโ€ by the corrupt Liberal media is shameful but not surprising. They still continue to do all they can to defend Obummer...

They're more interested in finding out just how many diet Cokes Trump is really drinking everyday and how many scoops of ice cream he eats, when there is negative news against the Liberals out there.
 
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Actually your prediction was about 12 seconds off... most Liberal Networks covered this Obama/Hezbollah story for ZERO seconds...
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This โ€News Black-Outโ€ by the corrupt Liberal media is shameful but not surprising. They still continue to do all they can to defend Obummer...

They're more interested in finding out just how many diet Cokes Trump is really drinking everyday and how many scoops of ice cream he eats, when there is negative news against the Liberals out there.

"Kevin Lewis, an Obama spokesman who worked at both the White House and Justice Department in the administration, said: โ€œThere has been a consistent pattern of actions taken against Hezbollah, both through tough sanctions and law enforcement actions before and after the Iran deal."

DEA and European Authorities Uncover Massive Hizballah Drug and Money Laundering Scheme
7 countries involved in disrupting drug money flow for terror regime
DEA: Hezbollah drug money scheme disrupted
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/01/politics/hezbollah-cocaine-drug-money-arrest-dea/index.html

And then without coke, how would Donald stay active, sniffle, sniffle.

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I notice that none of Obama's staff are pushing back on the specifics of the story. Just making personal attacks.

The Justice Department declined requests by Project Cassandra and other authorities to file criminal charges against major players such as Hezbollahโ€™s high-profile envoy to Iran, a Lebanese bank that allegedly laundered billions in alleged drug profits, and a central player in a U.S.-based cell of the Iranian paramilitary Quds force. And the State Department rejected requests to lure high-value targets to countries where they could be arrested.
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...nistration-ignored-terrorist-drug-trafficking
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...nistration-ignored-terrorist-drug-trafficking

Actually your prediction was about 12 seconds off... most Liberal Networks covered this Obama/Hezbollah story for ZERO seconds...
r2CKTSQ.gif


This โ€News Black-Outโ€ by the corrupt Liberal media is shameful but not surprising. They still continue to do all they can to defend Obummer...

They're more interested in finding out just how many diet Cokes Trump is really drinking everyday and how many scoops of ice cream he eats, when there is negative news against the Liberals out there.
 
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I notice that none of Obama's staff are pushing back on the specifics of the story. Just making personal attacks.

The Justice Department declined requests by Project Cassandra and other authorities to file criminal charges against major players such as Hezbollahโ€™s high-profile envoy to Iran, a Lebanese bank that allegedly laundered billions in alleged drug profits, and a central player in a U.S.-based cell of the Iranian paramilitary Quds force. And the State Department rejected requests to lure high-value targets to countries where they could be arrested.
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...nistration-ignored-terrorist-drug-trafficking

It's not a big story because it's already been taken apart, just read Adam Khan's tweets from Dec 18
https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur

And all the articles you're posting, like the National Review one, is just repeating the Politico article, which was basically lifted from a Free Beacon article:

Why don't you mention this piece was lifted from right wing rag, Free Beacon, where it was planted last June (see http://freebeacon.com/national-security/obama-admin-systematically-disbanded-units-investigating-irans-terrorism-networks/ โ€ฆ) by anti-Obama neocon think tank, FDD (whose employee is articles' source), which is funded by Paul Singer, who also fundsโ€ฆFree Beacon!
Adam Khanโ€ @Khanoisseur 3h3 hours ago


1. This Politico piece (dramatically titled "The Secret Backstory of How Obama Let Hezbollah off the Hook") takes way too long to note (several paragraphs in) that there is actually no evidence that Obama undermined any efforts in order to not rock the Iran nuclear deal.

2. The piece goes on to cite ex-Obama treasury official, Katherine Bauer, as proof that Obama went easy on Hezbollah, omitting the fact that Bauer now serves at a think tank that was founded by members of AIPAC, the influential Israeli lobby, which is, surprise, against Iran deal

3. In February 2016, Obama's DEA announced enforcement action against Hezbollah's drug and money laundering scheme, noting help from 7 countries in disrupting the drug money flow. Separately, the Treasury announced sanctions on Hizbollah financial network. I posted link in my last post. Once again - http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/01/politics/hezbollah-cocaine-drug-money-arrest-dea/index.html

4. Politico charges that Obama admin didn't pressure Czech authorities into extraditing alleged Hezbollah operative (alleged to report directly to Putin and a conduit for Russian arms transfer to Syria) but a Google search turns up U.S. condemnation of Czech refusal to extradite

I found the link to that:
U.S. Embassy Condemns Czechs For Refusing To Extradite Suspects
https://www.rferl.org/a/prague-lebanese-ali-fayad-released-extradition-us/27532663.html

5. Putin had lobbied against this alleged Hezbollah operative's (Ali Fayed) extradition, who was indicted in the U.S. by none other than @PreetBharara in 2014 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4325666-Ali-Fayad-Farouzi-Indictment.html โ€ฆ Despite this, several arrests were made, including in Europe in February 2016, after Iran deal.

6. You have to go three-fourths into the article to understand why some quoted in the article felt Obama was going easy on Hezbollah - they were speculating. That and they don't get how operations that involve multiple intelligence + governmental agencies + countries work.

7. The Politico hit piece on Obama bases its case on two sources: Katherine Bauer, from a think tank started by Israeli lobby AIPAC alums, which wants a war with Iran, and David Asher, from an anti-Iran, pro-Israel, neocon think tank, "Foundation for Defense of Democracies" (FDD)

8. Asher's think tank, FDD, was started by a Republican operative Clifford May and is funded by GOP mega donor/hedge fund billionaire, Paul Singer (who is also a major funder of right wing rag, "Washington Free Beacon"). FDD testified 17 times before Congress against Iran deal

9. The Politico piece disguised as a scoop simply rehashes a Free Beacon (funded by Paul Singer, who funds Netanyahu-aligned mouthpiece ['think tank'] FDD, where Asher works - get how this cozy echo chamber works?) article from June! FDD website proudly links to the Beacon piece.

10. For Politico to skip mentioning where people it cited in the article work, who funds their work, and their allegiances and biases, is as straight up an example of journalistic malpractice as it gets

11. Foundation for Defense of Democracies, which employs Asher was formed as a tax-exempt entity by pro-Israel mega donors (incl Adelson) seeking to burnish Israel's image, until NYT journalist turned GOP operative/RNC comms director Clifford May reinvented it as a "think tank"

12. None of this is mentioned in the Politico piece: The second in command at FDD was Nir Boms, who worked at Israeli embassy in Washington, and Israeli lobby AIPAC's long-time comms director Toby Dershowitz (his PR group uses the same address as FDD) also handled comms for FDD

etc. https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur for more, links, graphics

Sorry, nothing there.
 
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Cat from politico disagrees. Obama staff including Rhodes aren't denying details of the story.

Leads me to believe 1 of two things, Obama DOJ did deny request during the negotiation but it may not have mattered, and evidence exist it happened.
 
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@GILSAN You can tell JB is upset because he keeps going back and editing his post. You have to believe him because a friend of Obama wrote something on the Internet.
 
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@GILSAN You can tell JB is upset because he keeps going back and editing his post. You have to believe him because a friend of Obama wrote something on the Internet.

I just woke up, I edited my post over 13 hours ago, to add in #10, and put in a link for #4. 26 minutes after the post. That's it. So stop lying all the time, end of day it just reflects poorly on you. You've had a history of it this year. Maybe 2018 you turn it around.

And Obama doesn't need to address it, I'm sure he has better things to do. If they addressed all the nonsense out there, that's all they would be doing all day long.

My last post took all that nonsense apart already. You guys are just desperate to change the conversation since Trump in tanking.
 
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Yeah, we know. You're the man JB. Go team O!!
 
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Yeah, we know. You're the man JB. Go team O!!

You might be the biggest team player here for Trump, let's be real. Thru the year you can't even admit obvious stuff like is sexualizing your own daughters wrong. Simple yes or no questions you've dodged because it had to do with your man Trump. You've really had to sell yourself out for him. Too much lack of backbone on the right to the point of supporting racist, homophobic, pedophiles in 2017 for the glory of the party.
 
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1) Being anti-hysteria isn't pro-Trump. But I'm really happy Hillary didn't win.

2) Investigation to focus on Rhodes, senior Obama officials. If there is evidence, they'll be quiet and let Team O run interference.

Could be nothing. Could be something.

Real question, did learning that Bill Clinton pardoned a convicted pedophile change your opinion of him?
 
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1) Being anti-hysteria isn't pro-Trump. But I'm really happy Hillary didn't win.

2) Investigation to focus on Rhodes, senior Obama officials. If there is evidence, they'll be quiet and let Team O run interference.

Could be nothing. Could be something.

Real question, did learning that Bill Clinton pardoned a convicted pedophile change your opinion of him?

It's nothing, see post above. Actually read and go thru it. There is a reason it hasn't caught on. Nothing there.

Who? Reynolds? "Reynolds had served his entire sentence on child sex abuse charges before the commutation of the later convictions."

Looks like it was 1 year under the age of consent, broke the law nonetheless. I'm glad he served his sentence.

It didn't stop your support of Trump and Moore.

Did your opinion change of Trump knowing:

he partied and was good friends with convicted pedophile Epstein
supported Moore, some pedo
there is a child rape allegation
multiple allegations he walked in on underage girls undressing
multiple sexual assault allegations
on tape "grab them by the......"
on tape talking about dating some 10 year old girl when she gets older as she was going up the escalator
on tape many times talking sexually about Ivanka
on tape talking about legs and boobs of 1 year old daughter

This is the guy you go all out for.
 
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When facts make you uncomfortable.
 
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When facts make you uncomfortable.

You should be. And you skipped the question. Tell me, how does it feel to sell yourself out to the party? You're a good little trooper.

he partied and was good friends with convicted pedophile Epstein
supported Moore, some pedo
there is a child rape allegation
multiple allegations he walked in on underage girls undressing
multiple sexual assault allegations
on tape "grab them by the......"
on tape talking about dating some 10 year old girl when she gets older as she was going up the escalator
on tape many times talking sexually about Ivanka
on tape talking about legs and boobs of 1 year old daughter

Knowing all that, what is your opinion of Trump?
 
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Who? Reynolds? "Reynolds had served his entire sentence on child sex abuse charges before the commutation of the later convictions."

Weird how you keep defending Bill Clinton.

Claim: An ex-congressman who had sex with a subordinate won clemency from a president who had sex with a subordinate, then was hired by a clergyman who had sex with a subordinate. - TRUE Snoops.com

JB Lying again.
 
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