The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

Tucker Carlson reporting indictment of ?? tied to Podesta Group. Investigation has broadened to investigation of Russia lobbying in D.C.


James Comey hurt FBI's reputation. A lot ridding on Muller investigation to be honest, non-partisan investigation.

 

[enlytend]

The silent majority is alive and well,

More like the kool aid drinking minority....who fell for the slick marketing and voted for a total incompetent. A childlike, whiny, inexperienced grifter.

Only one threatening 1A is 45, who openly bashes the free press on a daily basis. Love it or hate it, a free press is the foundation of our country.

 

[mr-x]

More like the kool aid drinking minority....who fell for the slick marketing and voted for a total incompetent. A childlike, whiny, inexperienced grifter.

Like it or not, most of the people who voted for President Trump think he's doing an OK job.

Only one threatening 1A is 45, who openly bashes the free press on a daily basis. Love it or hate it, a free press is the foundation of our country.

When President Obama was catching heat from the press, he wire tapped reporters, including their families.
Democrats called for reinstatement of the "fairness doctrine", which is in effect, censorship.

Seem to goes both ways depending on who's getting bad press.

 

[Kate]

Like it or not, most of the people who voted for President Trump think he's doing an OK job.

Perception vs reality. Many people also think Duterte and Putin are doing a good job.

 

[mr-x]

Perception vs reality. Many people also think Duterte and Putin are doing a good job.

LOL. GDP is 3% Dow and S&P at record highs. Racking up a lot of small wins despite some major failures.

Subjectively, most people who think Duterte and Putin are doing a good are afraid to say otherwise.

 

[enlytend]

We have a winner - first indictment goes to Manafort.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/paul-manafort-indicted.html

I'm not a fan of unwarranted government surveillance of citizens, but there's a big difference between that and publicly inciting violence towards reporters or threatening to shut them down.

The reality is this, Donald J Trump won the Presidency, He is President,

Richard Nixon won the presidency too. In fact, Nixon won in a landslide victory, with 60% of the popular vote and with 520 electoral votes. What's your point? Sometimes voters make poor choices.

By the time this is all past us, 45 will go down in history as a more bigly disgrace than Nixon. Yuge, even.

Nixon: "I am not a crook"
Trump (the one who claimed he and only he could fix everything): "DO SOMETHING"

S&P and Dow are riding a bubble of confidence based on the flurry of deregulation orders. When consumer spending drops because health care is unaffordable or they're paying more in taxes, reality will hit. Reagan was a good and honorable man, but the "trickle down" thing didn't work then and it won't work now.

The next important issue is fixing the divide in the country which 45 and his minions have deliberately nurtured. Every time you call someone who disagrees with you "little turd" or dismiss them and their concerns with a label, you're cutting off any opportunity for communication and negotiation to reach a common ground, which is what democracy is all about.

As I've said before, I believe that the healthiest government is made up of people from a mix of the political spectrum who are willing and able to listen to others, negotiate and compromise. There needs to be give and take on both sides. That's how we all win.

 

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[enlytend]

... but wait! There's more!

Papadopolous pleads guilty to lying to FBI agents about his Russian contacts.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download

(Sounds like he's cooperating with them...)

Manafort - 12 counts of conspiracy against the United States
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4163373/Manafort-Gates-Indictment-OCR.pdf

 

[mr-x]

Democrats and media have been inciting violence against GOP for years. Worse for women and minorities.

 

[mr-x]

Probably took money to kneel. Lied about being refused service in a restaurant also.

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[mr-x]

Campaign ad in VA Gov's race shows a pickup truck with confederate flag running down Mexican and Muslim children.

https://twitter.com/latinovictoryus/status/924972736996364289

Not inciting violence.

 

[E-Promote]

Twitter posts might be admissible in court if it's properly authenticated

 

[JB Lions]

oops

"We need someone to communicate that DT (Donald Trump) is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal."

 

[enlytend]

Campaign ad in VA Gov's race shows a pickup truck with confederate flag running down Mexican and Muslim children.

False equivalence, but two wrongs don't make a right.

A US president or presidential candidate disparaging the free press or inciting his base to harass and asssault reporters is unacceptable.

MAGA - Manafort and Gates Arrested

 

[enlytend]

oops

"We need someone to communicate that DT (Donald Trump) is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal."

This pretty much sums it up:

From mid-June through mid-August 2016, PAPADOPOULOS pursued an "off the record" meeting between one or more Carnpaign representatives and "members of president putin's office and the mfa.

 

[JB Lions]

Just heard on the news, new Gallup record low 33% approval rating:

http://news.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

Probably will drop even lower with all this news coming out. Having a Russian puppet run Trump's campaign, influence/change the Republican platform.

Paul Manafort’s Indictment Sheds More Light On Pro-Russia Change To GOP Platform
The former Trump campaign chairman is charged with laundering millions from Vladimir Putin’s allies in Ukraine.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-manafort-ukraine-platform_us_59f72c88e4b07fdc5fbf9007

And Papa Dop cooperating with the Feds, so who knows what else will come out.

Rick Gates as well.

Getting flipped right now.

 

[JB Lions]

"a. Defendant Papadopoulos claimed that his interactions with an overseas professor, who defendant Papadopoulos understood to have substantial connections to Russian government officials, occurred before defendant Papadopoulos became a foreign policy adviser to the Campaign. Defendent Papadopouos acknowledged that the professor had told him about the Russians possessing "dirt" on then-candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of "thousands of emails," but stated multiple times that he learned the information prior to joining the Campaign. In truth and in fact, however, Defendant Papadopoulos learned he would be an adviser to the Campaign in early March, and met the professor on or about March 14, 2016; the professor only took interest in defendant Papadopoulos because of his status with the Campaign, and the professor told defendant Papadopoulos about the "thousands of emails" on or about April 26, 2016, when defendant Papadopoulos had been a foreign policy adviser for over a month."

"b. Defendant Papadopoulos further told the investigating agents that the professor was "a nothing" and "just a guy talk up connections or something." In truth and fact, however, defendant Papadopoulos understood that the professor had substantial connections to Russian government officials (and had met with some of those officials in Moscow immediately prior to telling defendant Papadopoulos about the "thousands of emails") and, over a period of months, defendant Papadopoulos repeatedly sought to use the professor's Russian connections in an effort to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and Russian government officials."

 

[mr-x]

False equivalence, but two wrongs don't make a right.

A US president or presidential candidate disparaging the free press or inciting his base to harass and asssault reporters is unacceptable.

MAGA - Manafort and Gates Arrested

False as in how? - I could post dozens of tweets by journalist praising Antif-a and violence by BLM, just as many attacking the tea party. You want to pretend it's worse b/c candidate Trump did it, fine.

Don't forget Tony Pedesta, he's already resigned from the Pedesta group. I'll say one thing for Clinton cronies, they have a lot of faith in the system.

 

[mr-x]

Before you get to giddy about Manafort, Tony Pedesta is next.

Muller has has wide ranging authority to investigate anything and I can't remember a special counsel investigation that turned out well for the people who called for it. #MAGA