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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

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It has so much to do with culture...
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More lies by Gilsan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland

They also have strict laws on what guns you can own. Throwing knives/stars, brass knuckles etc, can't own
 
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The United States, Canada, Netherlands, Singapore, Vietnam, North Korea and China are
the only seven countries in the world that allow abortions after 5 months.
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Hey Hollywood and MSM... how about shedding a tear for the millions of murdered unborn babies.
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HUGE problem is bump stocks are more of an idea than a device. The idea now out there for everyone to see, and any mechanically inclined person will be able to fashion their own bump stock system. But it will help prosecute people caught before they shoot and those that cant build $%^&

The real problem is our wiliness to demonize / slander political opponents. With the exception of Donald Trump, most of it comes from the left.

The Tea Party was a peaceful protest portrayed as terrorist and racist. Compared to how the media covered truly violent groups like Occupy, BLM and Antif-a.
 
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I don't know if your guys read it but it was an unarmed security guard who found the room on the 32 floor, he was breaking in the room and was shot in the leg, and diverted the fire from the street to the hallway, there were over 200 rounds fired in the hallway. If what a read is true this guy deserves the medal of honor.
 
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I don't know if your guys read it but it was an unarmed security guard who found the room on the 32 floor, he was breaking in the room and was shot in the leg, and diverted the fire from the street to the hallway, there were over 200 rounds fired in the hallway. If what a read is true this guy deserves the medal of honor.
He can also thank his guardian angel... 200 rounds fired and 199? missed him...
 
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informative

 
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Oh great! Government has direct access to some of the best security teams around - they get a phone that's acting erratically what do they do? Muck around with it for a while before deciding oh, maybe it's compromised. By which time they've tainted and probably destroyed evidence...

Pro tip: Next time, call incident response FIRST. SMH
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/05/john-kelly-cell-phone-compromised-243514
 
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I don't know if your guys read it but it was an unarmed security guard who found the room on the 32 floor.

I don't understand why it took so long for SWAT to breach the door. According to Washington Post, the security guard notified them of door number at 10:18pm but they did no get to door till 11:20pm?

Anyone?
 
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The officers arrived 12 min after shots were fired. The shots stopped 2 mins before the police arrived. The police cleared out floor guests while waiting for SWAT to show up.
 
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The officers arrived 12 min after shots were fired. The shots stopped 2 mins before the police arrived. The police cleared out floor guests while waiting for SWAT to show up.

Do you think the police would have had to wait around for SWAT if the police had arrived earlier while the shooting was still happening?
If police were held back, why would SWAT take so long to arrive, surely the are not more 10 minutes from the strip?
 
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Police officers don't just walk into a slaughterhouse. They do it in a measured way. In this case, he stopped shooting out the window, wait for the high velocity weapons guys and a plan.
 
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So you're saying had the guy kept shooting, the police would likely have had to wait for over an hour?
What took SWAT so long, anyone know? I can't find any details.
 
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So you're saying had the guy kept shooting, the police would likely have had to wait for over an hour?
What took SWAT so long, anyone know? I can't find any details.
Lots of details that are still missing. If he shot himself as the police say then that may explain the time lapse of about an hour between his last shots at the crowds and when SWAT burst in.

I've seen a picture of his face which is practically intact except for a lot of blood gushing out of his mouth. Maybe he killed himself, maybe not. I don't care.

Also there must be hotel security video showing him coming in and out various times with suitcases, that we have not seen up till now
 
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From the LA times:

Why did it take police so long to breach Las Vegas gunman's room? Here's a new timeline
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-la...e-police-so-long-to-1507174474-htmlstory.html


With a question like that as the headline, you'd figure they would supply an answer... read for yourself.

"There was a reason for the delay, Lombardo said. Officers actually reached Paddock's hotel room door on the 32nd floor within 12 minutes of the first shots being fired, "which is phenomenal," the sheriff said.

The shots had stopped 10 minutes after they started, according to the new timeline, which factors in information recorded on police officers' body cameras and closed-circuit television footage from the concert venue.

The shooting apparently halted when Paddock detected the security guard's approach at his hotel room door and turned to shoot the guard, Lombardo said.

The first police officers arrived about two minutes after that, the new account suggests. When they saw what had happened, they evacuated nearby rooms and waited for backup from a SWAT team to enter the room. That ended up happening 75 minutes after the first shots were fired.

Paddock was already dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Here is the timeline the sheriff's department released:

10:05 p.m.: First shots fired by the suspect. This was seen on closed-circuit television from the concert venue.

10:12 p.m.: First two officers arrive on the 31st floor and announce the gunfire is coming from directly above them.

10:15 p.m.: The last shots are fired from the suspect per body-worn cameras.

10:17 p.m.: The first two officers arrive on the 32nd floor.

10:18 p.m.: Security officer tells LVMPD officers he was shot and gives exact location of the suspect's room.

10:26-10:30 p.m.: Eight additional officers arrive on the 32nd floor and begin to move systematically down the hallway, clearing every room and looking for any injured people. They move this way because they no longer hear the gunfire of an active shooter.

10:55 p.m.: Eight officers arrive in the stairwell at the opposite end of the hallway nearest to the suspect's room.

11:20 p.m.: The first breach is set off and officers enter the room. They observe the suspect down on the ground and also see a second door that could not be accessed from their position.

11:27 p.m.: The second breach is set off, allowing officers to access the second room. Officers quickly realize there is no one else in the rooms and announce over the radio that the suspect is down.


Did I miss something or did they leave out the actual answer to why it took so long?
LVMPD knows the exact room at 10:18pm and the first breach is at 11:20pm. SWAT takes over an hour.

I think it is safe to assume SWAT was called within 5 minutes of the first 911 calls coming in. Within 10 minutes they should be on their way. Let's say it takes another 10 minutes to get to the hotel and then 10 minutes to get up to the room- that's 35 minutes and that's extremely conservative numbers right there.
 
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Article below is from the Daily Mail. Hard to believe there is more in this article from a British tabloid than any other source I have found. If the article is correct, police dispatch did not call SWAT till 10:24pm (16 minutes after the first calls were received about a shooter.)
SWAT at hotel and starts to move up to 32 floor at 10:37.
44 minutes later, they breach at 11:21pm. 44 minutes to climb 32 flights of stairs?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4945322/Vet-wants-know-cops-took-long-stop-shooter.html

(This is weird too, Vegas likely is working with Shot Spotter, a gunshot detection tech which is able to send the specific location of gunfire to local police dispatch within 45 seconds of the shot being fired. Shot spotter has not said if their technology is in Vegas, but they are in almost 90 cities across the US, pretty good odds they are there.)
 
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