The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[Varon]

Show the world your brilliance my dears. Quote us from your dedicated media sources and shine the light on ignorant souls like me. Show me the path Kate, JB and DiscoBull, so I can shelter some of these wonderful refugees in my apartment and heal them to make them fantastic citizens of America. I am single, so,..I would love some company. Heal me JB. Please !!

 

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All Americans are illegal immigrants, sheltering on the land of the natives. Making up laws to protect what you stole doesn't make it right.

America has had some of the worst kind of immigrants imaginable, like white supremacists (e.g. the KKK), Italian mafias, Irish mobs...

Greedy US corporations that are poisoning the planet:
http://www.economist.com/news/unite...cides-and-those-using-them-paradise-sprayedas http://www.theecologist.org/News/ne..._impacts_of_pesticides_used_on_gmo_crops.html

You can tell a lot about a society by how they treat animals and 99.9% of farmed animals are from factory farms, animal testing is still legal for even superficial things like cosmetics, highest rates of obesity on the planet...

Helping people that have been through hell on Earth is a good idea. Especially when you are the richest country in the world and are causing so much damage to it in the process.

No one is telling you to hoard refugees/immigrants (that are "stealing" your jobs) in your apartment, just to have a heart.

Let the rich people whom created/own the corporations that have taken 'your' jobs away, employ whoever they focking like! Create your own focking jobs/companies if you are so focking smart/superior to these immigrants that can't even speak English!

You're unemployed because of some peasant/slave workers coming across the boarder and stealing your jobs? Talk about focking LAZY/USELESS! And you even have had the right to be born in the land of freedom!!!

How the fock can you be unemployed? Can't you use your supremacist brain?

Focking FREELOADERS telling us who we can and can't employ! What inventions did they make? What scientific breakthroughs did they discover? What do they bring to the future of humanity???

If we're all going to be elitists like in history, not helping anyone, then most of the people would still be peasants/slave workers without even an education system...

Everyone going off on their own way, keeping everything for themselves.

Remind me again what you have all done for planet Earth, for humanity, the life changing discoveries... then we can discuss properly the freeloading topic in even greater detail.

Until then, lets help the refugees that have nothing and have been through hell.

 

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https://www.thelocal.de/20170203/thousands-of-crimes-against-refugees-reported-in-2016-report

Meanwhile the trial of eight members of a suspected right-wing terrorist group in Freital is set to begin in March in Dresden. The seven men and one woman are accused of committing at least five xenophobic or politically motivated attacks against refugee homes or political opponents, and face charges of forming a terrorist group, attempted murder, causing explosions and grievous bodily harm.

 

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Terrorist!

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-tests-nuclear-capable-drone-sub/
"drone sub will be armed with a 100-megaton warhead."

 

[enlytend]

1. Is Trump making the US unsafe with this move?

Yes.
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-con...-National-Security-Officials-FNL-TEXT-PDF.pdf

2. What should Trump do? Allow a free pass to to these immigrants

Nobody's giving them a free pass

1. Refugees currently go through an 18-24 month vetting process
2. People who were American CITIZENS, held dual citizenship, had legal green cards or visas were detained or refused entry because of that poorly thought out and badly written order. Among the thousands wrongly detained, a former Norwegian Prime Minister and a 5 year old US citizen.

BTW, that machete wielding guy who attacked a soldier at the Louvre (shopping center, not the museum itself) the other day? Egyptian. Not on the list.

 

[JB Lions]

Talk ... talk now..fast

4 posts in a row, still not answering any of my questions, after I answered yours. Not unexpected.

Trump approval rating continuing to dip - http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

Trump continuing to act like a loon, while hiding out on vacation in Florida after running away from the job after only 2 weeks. Weak. Sad. Can't stop tweeting nonsense.

From today - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Any negative polls are fake news, just like the CNN, ABC, NBC polls in the election. Sorry, people want border security and extreme vetting.

I call my own shots, largely based on an accumulation of data, and everyone knows it. Some FAKE NEWS media, in order to marginalize, lies!

He's dipping into that way too much, he's becoming even more of a joke. He's just going to rant all day long about fake news, which is actually real and correct news, looking like a clown slowly falling apart. Just over 2 weeks of this, imagine 4 years. I don't see how he makes it without having some breakdown or something.

Just updated as I was posting:

The failing @nytimes writes total fiction concerning me. They have gotten it wrong for two years, and now are making up stories & sources!

And that's him lying again, since their subscriptions continue to go up.

 

[lennco]

 

[JB Lions]

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 13m13 minutes ago


The failing @nytimes was forced to apologize to its subscribers for the poor reporting it did on my election win. Now they are worse!


Looks like the New York Times got Trump heated today, keeps tweeting about them. Does he not realize he's just driving more subscribers to them? Then he gets clowned on in the comments to his tweet - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/828793887275761665

He has no self control whatsoever. When he does this, he's just telling the Times and others how to get under his skin. So they'll just keep doing it.

 

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[En]

God help us when nanotechnology reaches the tipping point and humans will be able to live forever:

Humans extending their lives by 2029:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...xtend-lives-virtually-immortal-soon-2029.html

And all jobs can be filled by AI!

We'll all be a bunch of FREELOADERS, expecting the elite minds to HELP US out, as they have been doing since the beginning of humanity.

I suggest people wake up fast and start changing their perception of this world, otherwise there is only one outcome.

If you believe that you are superior to others, including all forms of living beings, and just ignore what is happening to them, you will always find someone/societies whom believe they are even more superior to you, and will show you the same respect that you show the e.g. animals, refugees, etc.

Circle of life, not the pyramid of supremacy.

 

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Human slaughterhouse: Mass hangings and extermination at Saydnaya prison, Syria

https://www.amnestyusa.org/research...gs-and-extermination-at-saydnaya-prison-syria

A chilling new report by Amnesty International exposes the Syrian government’s calculated campaign of extrajudicial executions by mass hangings at Saydnaya Prison. Between 2011 and 2015, every week and often twice a week, groups of up to 50 people were taken out of their prison cells and hanged to death. In five years, as many as 13,000 people, most of them civilians believed to be opposed to the government, were hanged in secret at Saydnaya.

Don't worry GILSAN, you wont have to pay for these ones!!!

 

[GILSAN]

The ultimate explanation of the Syrian conflict...
President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the rebels (who are good) started winning.

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State (who are definitely bad) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good).

So the Americans (who are good) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.

By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight the Islamic State (which is a good thing) but the Turkish authorities think they (the Kurds) are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria. President Putin (bad, as he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing?

But Putin (still bad) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So, a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except Corbyn who is probably bad) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad).

So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them good. America (still good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that mad ayatollah in Iran (also good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group).

To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as good (doh!).

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (might have a point) and hence we will be seen as bad.

So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (good / bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?

This should clear it all up for you. Almost.

 

[GILSAN]

 

[GILSAN]

WOW, has anyone told the Koreans about this?

Putin continuing to advance into… Korea??

 

[GILSAN]

 

[E-Promote]

Gilsan, you are such a sad propaganda troll.

 

[RogueWriter]

The ultimate explanation of the Syrian conflict...
President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the rebels (who are good) started winning.

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State (who are definitely bad) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good).

So the Americans (who are good) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.

By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight the Islamic State (which is a good thing) but the Turkish authorities think they (the Kurds) are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria. President Putin (bad, as he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing?

But Putin (still bad) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So, a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except Corbyn who is probably bad) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad).

So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them good. America (still good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that mad ayatollah in Iran (also good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group).

To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as good (doh!).

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (might have a point) and hence we will be seen as bad.

So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (good / bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?

This should clear it all up for you. Almost.

Yeah, Iran is never good, imo.

 

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The ultimate explanation of the Syrian conflict...
President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the rebels (who are good) started winning.

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State (who are definitely bad) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good).

So the Americans (who are good) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.

By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight the Islamic State (which is a good thing) but the Turkish authorities think they (the Kurds) are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria. President Putin (bad, as he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing?

But Putin (still bad) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So, a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except Corbyn who is probably bad) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad).

So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them good. America (still good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that mad ayatollah in Iran (also good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group).

To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as good (doh!).

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (might have a point) and hence we will be seen as bad.

So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (good / bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?

This should clear it all up for you. Almost.

Good, now imagine that you lived through all of that (as a good guy), and fled to the richest nation on Earth, and they didn't help you at all, complained about how you're using their swimming pool for free, slung racist remarks at you, bullied you, treated you as if you were one of the bad guys that have put you through this hell, and left you to fend for yourself living homeless on the street and starving to death.

 

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Now back to work peasants!

Bring back old dying technologies that have plagued the Earth for too long already (coal, oil, cars...), halt AI, nanotechnology, solar energy, anything that will mean that you lose your jobs and wealth, not for humanity's sake of evolving (overall) but all for your selves and your greed.

Now go pack as many chickens into one cage as you can, so that we can feed your greedy bellies and keep you happy!