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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

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4. US Political views, No Religious views
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Yeah - what exactly IS wrong with that?
  • Trump Collection apparel - made in China,Bangladesh, vietnam
  • Trump Home - items mostly made in China and RpTurkey
  • Manufacturing of Ivankas shoe line moved last year from China to Ethiopia because labor is cheaper.
"Do as I say, not as I do."
The Democrats have been in power for 16 of the last 24 years, so it's mostly thanks to them that American jobs have been outsourced to China, India and elsewhere, Go blame Obama, Bill Clinton and Bush for allowing factories to be closed, to the point where hardly any products are Made in the USA.

Now that Trump wants to turn things around, you are against it? You're just being plain intolerant.
 
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Don't blame Obama, CLinton or Bush for DT and IT's own business decisions. Why are they not setting the example?

I have a client in manufacturing who successfully reshored a business during the Obama administration. Previous owner was offshoring to India, he brought it back to Ohio.

Now that Trump wants to turn things around, you are against it? You're just being plain intolerant.
You're making "alternative facts" - I never said that. I merely pointed out the hypocracy that someone who so strongly advocates manufacturing in the USA doesn't practice what they preach.

And drop the ad hominem attacks anyway, they're mindless and boring A.F.
 
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Don't blame Obama, CLinton or Bush for DT and IT's own business decisions. Why are they not setting the example?

I have a client in manufacturing who successfully reshored a business during the Obama administration. Previous owner was offshoring to India, he brought it back to Ohio.


You're making "alternative facts" - I never said that. I merely pointed out the hypocracy that someone who so strongly advocates manufacturing in the USA doesn't practice what they preach.

And drop the ad hominem attacks anyway, they're mindless and boring A.F.
Time will prove that Trump is right and Liberal intolerance is wrong
 
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Manufacturing is delocated abroad for purely economic reasons. US products are not competitive, not that US workers are not productive, but labor is cheaper in Third world countries, not to mention lax environmental regulations etc etc.
Raising customs duties means consumers will pay more for household products. Relocating manufacturing to the US would likewise increase production costs. As simple as that. Non-competitive enterprises are doomed to fail (unless they are subsidized by the government forever :))
Voters won't be happy if you diminish their spending power in the name of economic patriotism. Voters may be apathetic to the truth but they are unforgiving when it comes to their wallet and their living standards.

"I will, I will, I will"
 
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Manufacturing is delocated abroad for purely economic reasons. US products are not competitive, not that US workers are not productive, but labor is cheaper in Third world countries, not to mention lax environmental regulations etc etc.
Raising customs duties means consumers will pay more for household products. Relocating manufacturing to the US would likewise increase production costs. As simple as that. Non-competitive enterprises are doomed to fail (unless they are subsidized by the government forever :))
Voters won't be happy if you diminish their spending power in the name of economic patriotism. Voters may be apathetic to the truth but they are unforgiving when it comes to their wallet and their living standards.

"I will, I will, I will"
Crappy Chinese products end up being more expensive in the long run. How many times haven't people, including myself bought a cheap Chinese product, only to see it break down after a few weeks or sometimes days. I'd rather pay 3-4 times more for a product that I know will last 10-20x longer than a Chinese product.
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One for the Obama haters:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/yemen-a-war-for-profit-saudi-genocide-backed-by-obama/5519856

"Short version, the Saudis need more fields, more oil from somewhere, in order to survive. This report I found shows clearly, the Bush and Obama administrations have known for a long time that the Saudis are almost out of oil. โ€œPeak oilโ€ is a reality; the wealth of the Saudi people has been squandered on frivolous investing and building projects, and if they donโ€™t prop up the industry, then the regime is over. This brings us to Yemen and the concrete reasons for Saudi aggression. Iโ€™ll try and be brief."

"evidence is emerging that the oil Yemen sits on has yet to be fully explored or accessed."

"The facts the Saudis are killing people in the Jawf region in record numbers aside, the oil basins first explored by Hunt Oil, Exxon, and Phillips in blocks around Jawf have largely been expropriated (2005 for block 18) by Yemen. And big oil hates countries taking back their resources."

"Most people do not realize that the oil politicians and their armies fight over is almost totally controlled by conglomerates like Shell, and the others."

"The reader needs nothing more than this WikiLeaks cable to galvanize the fact the Obama administration, and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton especially, knew exactly the nature of new Yemeni oil and gas capacity in 2009. What the cable made โ€œclassifiedโ€ by Ambassador Stephen A. Seche revealed was just business, but damning when current events are overlapped, I quote in part:

โ€œIn an October 13 meeting with Econoff, the Chair of the Petroleum Exporting and Production Authority (PEPA), Ahmed Abdillah, told Econoff that the governorates of Shabwa, Marib and al-Jawf have high potential for significant gas deposits. He said that natural gas deposits have been found in Occidental Block 20 (Marib-al-Jawf), Occidental Block S-1 (Shabwa) and Canadian Nexen Block 51 (Hadhramout).โ€

"Without going into a geology or oil & gas lecture here, natural gas, particularly LNG are the mid term future for the people of Yemen. That is if the Saudis with American assistance will let them live. As for oil, and the crude the Saudis need to survive, Yemen has a partial solution there too."

"fully aware of vast oil and gas deposits offshore of Yemen for some time."

"So now you know why Barack Obama never comes to the rescue for Yemeni civilians being murdered, itโ€™s the same reason Russian speakers in the East of Ukraine are not protected, and the same reason ISIL has been allowed to roam Northern Iraq and Eastern Syria. Oh, and Rupert Murdoch, the owner of the Wall Street Journal, his key energy investment in Genie Oil is a direct competitor with any future Yemen revenue gains from new sources. AMSO American shale, a subsidiary of Genie is vested in monetizing the last of Americaโ€™s shale reserves. So the picture puzzle of Yemen chaos should be complete for you now."
 
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This is how they sleep at night, in case anyone is wondering.

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Hey feminists, dressing up as a giant vagina & whining about Trump won't end honor killings, forced marriages or Female Genital Mutilation.
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The correct response should be one of complete shock, just like the horrific treatment of animals, however I wont be surprised to be ignored again (since it doesn't involve being selfish uncaring monsters). Seems like people/women are more concerned about being allowed to murder unborn babies (whom have yet to even exist), or other issues only directly related to themselves (like being able to allow others to torture animals in order that they can be happy/overweight, because it is their right???). They will get up and protest for that!

Humans are strange monsters.
 
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Trying going to Saudi Arabia and protesting. Good luck.
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"Yemen has been in a state of political crisis since 2011, starting with street protests against poverty, unemployment, corruption, and president Saleh's plan to amend Yemen's constitution and eliminate the presidential term limit, in effect making him president for life.[25] President Saleh stepped down and the powers of the presidency were transferred to Vice President Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi, who was formally elected president on 21 February 2012 in a one-man election. The transitional process was disrupted by conflicts between the Houthis and al-Islah, as well as the al-Qaeda insurgency. In September 2014 the Houthis took over Sana'a,[26][27][28] later declaring themselves in control of the government in a coup d'รฉtat.[29] Since then, a Saudi-led intervention has taken place, however, it could not stop the civil war."

Saudi Arabia is controlled by your country and your peoples who need their oil. Don't blame innocent good people that try to get away from them by immigration for your disgusting evil people.

Follow the money back to the richest nations in the world.
 
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Saudi Arabia is controlled by your country and your peoples who need their oil. Don't blame innocent good people that try to get away from them by immigration for your disgusting evil people.
Follow the money back to the richest nations in the world.
When you say "your country and your peoples" I'm assuming that you mean the USA.

Well I have news for you... I'm NOT American, so please direct those nasty words to Americans on this thread.
 
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Seems like people/women are more concerned about being allowed to murder unborn babies (whom have yet to even exist),
Especially the Liberal women, like the ones that marched on Sunday.
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or other issues only directly related to themselves (like being able to allow others to torture animals in order that they can be happy/overweight, because it is their right???). They will get up and protest for that!
Like these sexy things from Sundays march?
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What's baffling to me about anyone trusting Trump with the economy, is that he's clearly the most economically ignorant candidate to ever run for office. If the interview where he suggested renegotiating America's debt didn't bring that point home, you just have to spend a few minutes listening to him talk about trade to understand how hopelessly clueless he is.

For starters, he doesn't even appear to know what trade deficits are. In interview after interview, he talks about them as if they add to the debt just like budget deficits ( they don't ). He also seems to have this gut-based belief that trade deficits equal greater unemployment when in fact there's no correlation between employment levels and trade imbalances. Even his notion that the decline of manufacturing jobs in America is directly related to outsourcing has been thoroughly debunked ( the primary culprit is automation ).

I'd honestly have more faith in the average high-schooler to manage the economy. At least there's a chance that a student might recognize that they've got something to learn whereas Trump is a man who thinks he already knows everything when he obviously knows next to nothing.
 
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Linda Sarsour one of the Organizers For DC Womenโ€™s March Against Trump Pictured Flashing the ISIS Sign.
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The fact that an Islamic faction was one of the organizers of the Womenโ€™s March is laughable at best. Islam is responsible for the worst abuses of women and children not only throughout history, but at present day. Islamic supremacists who wish to impose Sharia law in America have infiltrated various leftist movements in order to appear as an oppressed minority.
 
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Islam is responsible for the worst abuses of women and children not only throughout history, but at present day.
That is one of the best reasons to be involved in the march.

Please do judge each individual Muslim, whether they actually want to impose Sharia Law in the US, or whether they are violent.

I don't know anything about Islam, I've never read the book, however I don't believe that the majority are as bad as you say.

https://www.quora.com/What-do-educated-Muslims-think-of-the-Sharia-law

http://www.tolerance.org/publication/sharia

There are Muslims near to where I live, always walking down my road, that I went to school with, etc. All good here!

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"I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality"

(I don't like violence and boxing)
 
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Linda Sarsour one of the Organizers For DC Womenโ€™s March Against Trump Pictured Flashing the ISIS Sign.


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The fact that an Islamic faction was one of the organizers of the Womenโ€™s March is laughable at best. Islam is responsible for the worst abuses of women and children not only throughout history, but at present day. Islamic supremacists who wish to impose Sharia law in America have infiltrated various leftist movements in order to appear as an oppressed minority.

Oh No, they're everywhere!

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And here he is giving the dreaded double-ISIS sign. He's not even trying to hide it anymore!!!!
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We're all doomed!
 
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Linda Sarsour one of the Organizers For DC Womenโ€™s March Against Trump Pictured Flashing the ISIS Sign.
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The fact that an Islamic faction was one of the organizers of the Womenโ€™s March is laughable at best. Islam is responsible for the worst abuses of women and children not only throughout history, but at present day. Islamic supremacists who wish to impose Sharia law in America have infiltrated various leftist movements in order to appear as an oppressed minority.

Gilsan, can always be counted on for being a lying idiot. At least you're consistent.

Linda Sarsour @lsarsour

ISIS are a cancer of this earth. They need to be deleted. Doesn't excuse Bashar or his regime. https://twitter.com/jelhalabi/status/635588335885402116 โ€ฆ

7:08 PM - 23 Aug 2015

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...h-attacked-online_us_58865134e4b0e3a7356adbb2

The dumb stuff that you post

"The fact that an Islamic faction was one of the organizers of the Womenโ€™s March is laughable at best."

Really?
 
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