The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[GILSAN]

Trump doesn't want Mexican immigration, but he also doesn't want more American jobs going to Mexico.

There you go distorting the truth, again... just like the MSM. Trump said he doesn't want ILLEGAL Mexican and other immigration. He's allways said he's in favor of LEGAL immigration.

BTW, what's the problem with wanting American jobs to stay in America?

 

[Kate]

And he wants to ban Muslims from entering the United States.
What if a predominantly Muslim country banned Christians from entering their country ?
You would be the first to speak out about intolerance, but as usual it's always the others who are wrong and intolerant. The pot calling the kettle black.
How am I distorting the truth when I'm only quoting your master (to whom you should have listened more).

And he also proposed a register of Muslims living in the US, so even American citizens are in his eye sights as potential enemies of the State. Not for something bad they have done, but for their religious beliefs. This is no different than the census of Jews in the 30s, in preparation for some sinister purpose.

And it's not like there isn't a precedent: think of Japanese Americans during WW2. And actually Japanese Americans were removed not just out of loyalty concerns but for economic reasons (for example in order to benefit white farmers).

Maybe there is a reason why your hero is endorsed by the KKK ?

 

[GILSAN]

And he wants to ban Muslims from entering the United States.
What if a predominantly Muslim country banned Christians from entering their country ?
You would be the first to speak out about intolerance, but as usual it's always the others who are wrong and intolerant. The pot calling the kettle black.
How am I distorting the truth when I'm only quoting your master (to whom you should have listened more).

And he also proposed a register of Muslims living in the US, so even American citizens are in his eye sights as potential enemies of the State. Not for something bad they have done, but for their religious beliefs. This is no different than the census of Jews in the 30s, in preparation for some sinister purpose.

And it's not like there isn't a precedent: think of Japanese Americans during WW2. And actually Japanese Americans were removed not just out of loyalty concerns but for economic reasons (for example in order to benefit white farmers).

Maybe there is a reason why your hero is endorsed by the KKK ?

You really are a Christian hating Muslim loving idiot. Go live in Saudi Arabia and let us know how that works out for you... that is, if you don't get your head chopped off, or stoned to death.

Don't come here trying to convince me that the worst religion on this planet should have more privileges than the others. They already have plenty of that in Europe and the US. Islam is the only religion that doesn't get along with ALL the other religions in the world and I'm 200% behind what Trump plans to do.

As for the KKK...

As for Islam and Hitler... Adolf probably got some ideas on how to get rid of the Jews from this guy...

 

[Kate]

As for the KKK...

The spin machine keeps recycling the same Internet memes. Some fact-checking is necessary: https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4qymrc/debunking_the_hillary_clinton_kkk_meme/

TLD;DR version:

Robert Byrd, a democratic senator from 1959 to 2010, was member of the KKK through the 1940s. In this period, he was heavily into this culture, and was very racist. No one denies that, not even himself.

In the 50s, he changed direction to the polar opposite: he changed to fighting segregation and institutionalized racism.
...
The right picture is entirely fake and very misleading. It makes him seem to have been a Klansman in his later days, which is straight out false. He lost his affiliations in the 50's, as explained above.

On the other hand:

Donald Trump refused to distance himself from David Duke, white supremacist and former Grand Wizard of the KKK, claiming that he knew "nothing about white supremacists". Even after he was told that he was a klansman, he refused to disaprove of him.

Based on his own track record of racist statements, I am inclined to think DT is more aligned with the KKK than HRC could be.

 

[lennco]

 

[GILSAN]

The spin machine keeps recycling the same Internet memes. Some fact-checking is necessary: https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4qymrc/debunking_the_hillary_clinton_kkk_meme/

TLD;DR version:

On the other hand:

Based on his own track record of racist statements, I am inclined to think DT is more aligned with the KKK than HRC could be.

Show me a picture of Trump with David Duke. If you can't find one then don't bother me with fake news

 

[JB Lions]

Show me a picture of Trump with David Duke. If you can't find one then don't bother me with fake news

David Duke ‏@DrDavidDuke - he's loving on Trump all day long

We did it! Congratulation Donald J. Trump President of the United States of America!

https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/822489438479650816

 

[Kate]

Speaking of fake news: so far one cornerstone of his political action (if there is any) has been to attack the press for being 'dishonest'. He not only reminds us that he can't stand a critical press (that we knew already), but he also follows in the footsteps of his role models Putin, Erdogan, Chavez et al: they too have waged war on the press in their respective countries - result: free press is virtually extinct, journalists either die or are put in jail.
Pointing fingers at scapegoats and inexistent enemies is a common trait of authoritarian leaders, because taking responsibility for their actions (and failures) is not something they do gladly. (I thought Republicans stood for personal responsibility ?)

Americans loved The Apprentice so much on TV that they put one in charge of the country

But something tells me that Americans will get tired of the one-man show soon enough and will expect results, not just alternate reality spin.

Сделаем Америку снова великой

 

[wormfood]

calls David Duke a bigot

but he plays dumb here instead of disavowing white supremacy?

then here he says he does disavow them all

 

[GILSAN]

Speaking of fake news: so far one cornerstone of his political action (if there is any) has been to attack the press for being 'dishonest'. He not only reminds us that he can't stand a critical press (that we knew already), but he also follows in the footsteps of his role models Putin, Erdogan, Chavez et al: they too have waged war on the press in their respective countries - result: free press is virtually extinct, journalists either die or are put in jail.
Pointing fingers at scapegoats and inexistent enemies is a common trait of authoritarian leaders, because taking responsibility for their actions (and failures) is not something they do gladly. (I thought Republicans stood for personal responsibility ?)

Americans loved The Apprentice so much on TV that they put one in charge of the country

But something tells me that Americans will get tired of the one-man show soon enough and will expect results, not just alternate reality spin.

Сделаем Америку снова великой

It's the MSM that declared war on Trump, so he's doing what any Politically Incorrect person with balls would do... fight back and give them hell. Obama never had that problem because they were kissing his ass constantly and continue to do so.

He even got a Nobel Prize for doing nothing. Even Obama himself acknowledged that he didn't know why he won the Nobel. It wouldn't surprise me if he got a 2nd Nobel Prize... for doing nothing, again.

The Media needs Trump more than he needs them. He can simply use Twitter and by-pass them quite easily, then let them bitch and complain and invent stories all day long. as they've been doing since he ran for office..

To hell with the MSM. I've been saying that for years. They are totally biased against half the population and don't deserve any respect, certainly not from me and from almost 85% of the entire population that just don't trust them any more.

It seems that you are part of the 15% with blinders that still trusts the MSM.

So I say once again: Donald, give the MSM Hell and build that Wall, nice and Tall. Oh almost forgot: Tell Kate she can keep all those Muslims that Trump rejects.

 

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[GILSAN]

Trying going to Saudi Arabia and protesting. Good luck.

 

[GILSAN]

I'd run for my life...

 

[GILSAN]

Hey feminists, dressing up as a giant vagina & whining about Trump won't end honor killings, forced marriages or Female Genital Mutilation.

 

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[En]

All people are gonna miss this:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/23/new-zealand-weather-bomb-summer-snow-flooding
https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-storm-causes-flooding-triggers-evacuations-211822043.html

 

[En]

If only things were as simple and plain sailing as you (and Trump) imagine...

 

[En]

Actions speak louder than words.

I don't think Trump cares about what is happening to people in Saudi Arabia (or anywhere in the Middle East).

He does seem to care about oil a lot tho.

If people love it so much in those countries where they are being tortured and stoned to death, why do they risk their lives to flee?

How is anything going to change in those countries, if no one is allowed to leave and join more civilised countries, and everyone else cuts themselves off morally?

America First is exactly the reason that there are so many issues (greedy corporations/countries stealing oil and forgetting the people and environment that live there)!

American CIA even goes out of their way to put ruthless people in power that they want in order to be able to keep the oil pumps on! They don't care that the people don't want them in their country (double standards).

I'm quite sure Trump agrees with this with everything he has said, so it's business as usual (or before when America was so Great and ruthless).

 

[enlytend]

BTW, what's the problem with wanting American jobs to stay in America?

Yeah - what exactly IS wrong with that?

• Trump Collection apparel - made in China,Bangladesh, vietnam
• Trump Home - items mostly made in China and Turkey
• Manufacturing of Ivankas shoe line moved last year from China to Ethiopia because labor is cheaper.

"Do as I say, not as I do."

"MSM" - definition: Any source that contradicts your opinions.