The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[enlytend]

3rd, This is a gaslight op to delegitimize the new administration by the left. NBC, CBC CNN saying the election was hacked.. it was not.

That's your opinion. Nobody's saying the "election" was hacked. Hacking is allegedly just one thing that was done to undermine the process and support their preferred candidate. Massive spreading of propoganda on social media was another. If the RNC servers were hacked, information not released would potentially compromise people. You think the DNC's the only group doing anything unethical? That's pretty naive.

As far as journalists and sources - RedState, Breitbart are the DailyKos and OccupyDemocrats of the right. Heavy on clickbait, light on facts, heavily biased towards their respective viewpoints. There are still a few real journalists out there, just not many as a lot bow to pressure to generate traffic and ratings.

You never answered my question about the merits of a bipartisan investigation. If there was meddling, US needs to get its act together to prevent future incidents.

 

[mr-x]

That's your opinion. Nobody's saying the "election" was hacked.

 

[mr-x]

That's your opinion. Nobody's saying the "election" was hacked. Hacking is allegedly just one thing that was done to undermine the process and support their preferred candidate. Massive spreading of propoganda on social media was another. If the RNC servers were hacked, information not released would potentially compromise people. You think the DNC's the only group doing anything unethical? That's pretty naive.

As far as journalists and sources - RedState, Breitbart are the DailyKos and OccupyDemocrats of the right. Heavy on clickbait, light on facts, heavily biased towards their respective viewpoints. There are still a few real journalists out there, just not many as a lot bow to pressure to generate traffic and ratings.

You never answered my question about the merits of a bipartisan investigation. If there was meddling, US needs to get its act together to prevent future incidents.

I've said multiple times, all facts of the election and voting should be made public.

If you find one on-the-record source saying the election was hacked, I'll change my mind about DNC gas lighting.

DNC and the media are screaming about the Putin boogey man b/c the DNC and Media were unable to fix the election for Hillary.

Media gave unprecedented air time to Trump's empty podium, 1/2 hour phone calls, etc. during the primary.
Trump said much more outlandish bullshit in the primary than the election! Now we're all supposed to be upset "She" didn't win.

Maybe running a candidate under FBI investigation wasn't such a good idea. I'm happy DNC and Podesta emails were released. I'd be even happier if RNC and Conway's emails were also released.

I've always said Trump was better then Hillary. If the Libertarian candidate hadn't been such a hoser, I would have voted for him.

Trump's cabinet picks have been pretty good. #MAGA.

 

[Kate]

Two reasons Putin took Crimea & invaded Ukraine.

1) Obama is weak

2) He could.

There are many more reasons, not least the fact that GWB invaded a foreign country based on lies and doctored evidence. If the US can invade foreign countries for no valid reason and violate human rights on a massive scale, why wouldn't other countries think they are entitled to do the same ?
So who is going to lecture Putin now ? Not the US, that has zero credibility today.
This is the danger when you lead by example, but the bad example.

 

[mr-x]

There are many more reasons, not least the fact that GWB invaded a foreign country based on lies and doctored evidence. If the US can invade foreign countries for no valid reason and violate human rights on a massive scale, why wouldn't other countries think they are entitled to do the same ?
So who is going to lecture Putin now ? Not the US, that has zero credibility today.
This is the danger when you lead by example, but the bad example.

Well said.

 

[mr-x]

Elon Musk defends $4.9 billion in government money for his companies
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-elon-musk-defends-subsidies-20150601-htmlstory.html

1) Musk is subsidized by other peoples taxes
2) Tax breaks for the Oil and Coal industries are just letting them keep their own money.

Mark Cuban is reportedly asking Fed. Gov. to invest 100 billion $$ in robotics b/c China!

Giving tax proceeds to people like Musk and Cuban is theft. If they want to invest in robotics or electric cars, they should start venture fund for that purpose.

 

[iowadawg]

Businesses cannot stand on their own feet without some form of Government aid. Whether that be in QE form or direct subisidies, the marketplace is no longer a "Free Market". Tesla and its dependents are an example of what is wrong with our capital market system.

Elon Musk is using the Government as a backstop for his businesses. He is depending on easy money to support companies that would otherwise fail from debt. In short, the business structure of Tesla, SolarCity and SpaceX is a microcosm of the problem with our current capital markets.

HERE FOR ALL

 

[johname]

Ok no matter what side of the rail you are sitting on, have to admit this is a funny headline lol

That Drone Skirmish With China? It Was Over Before Donald Trump’s First Mean Tweet.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-drone-china_us_58594304e4b08debb78b0542

 

[GILSAN]

Ok no matter what side of the rail you are sitting on, have to admit this is a funny headline lol

That Drone Skirmish With China? It Was Over Before Donald Trump’s First Mean Tweet.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-drone-china_us_58594304e4b08debb78b0542

Trump's tweet telling China they can keep the drone after stealing it and taking it to China to be analyzed, was brilliant.

He put himself in a very strong negotiating position with the Chinese. He can now claim: "You guys are well-known thieves. you are going to pay for this damn thing big time.

 

[iowadawg]

 

[GILSAN]

Merry Christmas Europeans! And don't forget to visit a cosy Christmas market with soldiers as decoration...

 

[mr-x]

Well -
Rep Michael McCaul says Russians have have hacked into the Republican National Committee

He is the (Republican) Homeland Security Chairman

GOP congressman: I 'misspoke' when I said RNC was hacked
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/politics/michael-mccaul-rnc-hacked/index.html

"There has been no known breach of the RNC's cyber network," said Sean Cairncross, the RNC's chief operating officer.

Obama should order the FBI to release all information on any hacking related to the election. He should have done it weeks ago.

 

[GILSAN]

 

[GILSAN]

 

[iowadawg]

 

[GILSAN]

The plane is still on the runway waiting for them... It's gonna be a fu*king loooooong wait.

 

[iowadawg]

 

[fatter]

I was gonna wait till after the celebrities moved there, then call my congressmen and have him right a bill, that we pay each Canadian household 500k if they vote to be our 51st state. With 13 million households in Canada it would cost us about 6 trillion.
Plus we could drive to Alaska without leaving the USA.

 

[JB Lions]

Newt Gingrich says Trump is done with ‘drain the swamp’

"That's according to Newt Gingrich, a top ally who told NPR in an interview that aired Wednesday morning that he was instructed not to use the phrase anymore because it has fallen out of favor with Trump."

"I'm told he now just disclaims that. He now says it was cute, but he doesn't want to use it anymore," Gingrich, who informally advises Trump, said Wednesday on NPR's "Morning Edition."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/newt-gingrich-trump-drain-the-swamp/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...482339875022&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.5cd859fe8ddf

JRehling ‏@JRehling 1h1 hour ago

Candidate Trump:
Drain the Swamp!
Trump voters: Drain the Swamp!
Pres. Trump: Just kidding!
Trump voters:There was no way to foresee this.

Progressive Mom ‏@ProgressiveMom2 30m30 minutes ago

"LOCK HER UP!" Nah, just kiddin'
"BUILD THAT WALL!" Maybe a fence?
"DRAIN THE SWAMP!" I kinda like swamps
"MAGA!" (good luck with that)

So Trump suckered how many millions?

 

[GILSAN]

Are you happy now Angela?