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Every day I turn on the news and think...... Oh, god what did Trump do wrong today! Two hrs til the big speech today in Detroit. I'm sure whatever political blunder he makes today..... it'll be "Huge"!:-D
 
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Back in the '80s, I produced several programs on slavery for public TV -so you would lose that bet. Black African inter-tribal 'slavery', where the losing tribe in a battle is integrated into the victorious tribes ranks as brothers and sisters is not in the same category as the inhumane industrial slavery visited on Africa by Islamic Arabs and White Christians.
Wrong.... The losing tribes became the Slaves of the winning Tribes and subsequently were sent to the coastal ports to be traded to the White Slave Traders. Lets not forget that a very large % of them died en route to the Coastal ports.

Slavery was a big business in Africa a very long time before some greedy Whites discovered it. The African Slave Trade started as early as the 9th century, especially between Muslim traders and western African kingdoms as well as East Africa. Muslims were selling goods to the African kingdoms and the African kingdoms were paying with their own people.

When the Whites arrived with their boats, the Slaves were there already, just waiting to be sold, put onto the boats and sent to the Americas. Sort of like a Drive-in restaurant. So basically Muslims and Blacks were the first to start the Slave trade and therefore they are just to blame, if not even more than the Whites.

The Barbary Pirates on the other hand did not pay for the White Christian Slaves. They raided coastal villages along the Mediterranean coast as well as adjacent Islands, looted the villages, then captured and kidnapped the men, women and children, while leaving death and destruction behind, since many villagers tried to stop them.

Then they took the slaves back to the Slave markets in North Africa where they then traded them. Most of the women and children became Sex Slaves while the men had by far the worst fate for a Barbary slave as they were assigned to man the oars of galleys. Rowers were shackled where they sat, and never allowed to leave. Sleeping, eating, defecation and urination took place at the seat.

Do they teach this in US schools? I'll bet not. Does Hollywood make any films or series about this? I don't remember ever seeing anything about it.

In 1981 the country of Mauritania became the last country to abolish slavery, although it was only officially criminalized in 2007, yet the practice still goes on today.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/aug/14/slavery-still-shackles-mauritania

https://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/white-slaves/

People from virtually every major culture, civilization, and religious background have made slaves of their own and enslaved other peoples. So, to continually blaming slavery as something invented by Whites is ridiculous and to ask for reparations is even more ridiculous.

Finally, I want to thank you for your post, which I thought was very interesting, because at least you are aware that slavery is not a one way street as so many try to make it. What people did centuries ago has nothing to do with today's generations.
 
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Every day I turn on the news and think...... Oh, god what did Trump do wrong today! Two hrs til the big speech today in Detroit. I'm sure whatever political blunder he makes today..... it'll be "Huge"!:-D
"YUUUUUGE"
 
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"Fifty of the nation’s most senior Republican national security officials, many of them former top aides or cabinet members for President George W. Bush, have signed a letter declaring that Donald J. Trump “lacks the character, values and experience” to be president and “would put at risk our country’s national security and well-being.”

Mr. Trump, the officials warn, “would be the most reckless president in American history.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/u...trump.html?smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur&_r=0

Evan McMullin - https://twitter.com/search?q="Evan McMullin"&src=tren

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If the Election were today, Hillary would now have 95.2% chance of winning - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

Trump is pretty much finished.
 
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Talk about being disingenuous. Don't judge a book by its political cover, but by the color of its Liberal or Conservative contents. The politics of the pro-slavery Democrats at that time were KKKonservative. To insinuate that the party of the KKK, Jim Crow laws, The Black Codes, was Liberal is beyond disingenuous.

"Is it true that Democrats used to be the conservative party and Republicans used to be the progressive party?"
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-th...-Republicans-used-to-be-the-progressive-party

Murray Godfrey, U.S History Professor - 214.7k Views · Most Viewed Writer in U.S. Political Parties
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When Republicans Were Blue and Democrats Were Red
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...blue-and-democrats-were-red-104176297/?no-ist

Connecting the conservative dots of using the law to try and suppress the Black vote, from the McMinn County War to today's headlines, is not "brilliantly disingenuous". But a reply trying to paste those actions as handing "Democratic crimes over to the Republicans" is.


Oh, I did note that. Right away. It's brilliantly disingenuous, isn't it? 98% of the people who read it used that way will read it as "Republican" without a second thought. So you have neatly handed Democratic crimes over to the Republicans. The 2% who call you on it will get that tidy, but highly subjective and highly debatable, explanation you just gave. I don't imagine too many of that 2% will buy the explanation, but it's enough of a smokescreen to cloud the issue over with endless debate.

An honest way to write about that revolt is to call the criminal politicians either Democrats or to simply not refer to their political affiliation. Calling them "conservative" makes all kinds of assumptions about their political beliefs that you simply can't know without extensive study. The only reason to insert the word "conservative" that I can think of is to tar present day conservatives. Sorry, but that's the way I read it.
 
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True, the Islamic slave trade began some 1,400 years before the Whites began the Atlantic slave trade. As such all the main slave ports where Islamic, not Black African. Black inter-tribal slavery was tribal conflict related, not an industry. It did not shackle, rape and sell children as an industry.

When they did sell-off their defeated enemies to Islamic traders they assumed it would be the same type of family adopted servitude slavery as they practiced. They had no idea of the brutality to come.

And, again, there are no real inter-generational slave descendant populations in Black Africa, or the Islamic world. Like there are in the Americas... where the slave owners earned trillions in profits. So the one time profits of the Islamic slave trader, or the African tribal chief, are not a tangible focus.

But, as all human slavery will be severely impacted by the legal precedent of reparations. I support it. The excuse that 'they sold them to us" not only ignores the fact that the Portuguese and English soon took over the slave trade from the Arabs. But, more importantly, the Islamic slave trade was Not Race Based. As you point out, the Arabs enslaved Whites. The White slave trade specifically targeted Blacks. Hence, Whites are specifically responsible for Black Slavery in the Americas.

Wrong.... The losing tribes became the Slaves of the winning Tribes and subsequently were sent to the coastal ports to be traded to the White Slave Traders. Lets not forget that a very large % of them died en route to the Coastal ports.

Slavery was a big business in Africa a very long time before some greedy Whites discovered it. The African Slave Trade started as early as the 9th century, especially between Muslim traders and western African kingdoms as well as East Africa. Muslims were selling goods to the African kingdoms and the African kingdoms were paying with their own people.

When the Whites arrived with their boats, the Slaves were there already, just waiting to be sold, put onto the boats and sent to the Americas. Sort of like a Drive-in restaurant. So basically Muslims and Blacks were the first to start the Slave trade and therefore they are just to blame, if not even more than the Whites.

The Barbary Pirates on the other hand did not pay for the White Christian Slaves. They raided coastal villages along the Mediterranean coast as well as adjacent Islands, looted the villages, then captured and kidnapped the men, women and children, while leaving death and destruction behind, since many villagers tried to stop them.

Then they took the slaves back to the Slave markets in North Africa where they then traded them. Most of the women and children became Sex Slaves while the men had by far the worst fate for a Barbary slave as they were assigned to man the oars of galleys. Rowers were shackled where they sat, and never allowed to leave. Sleeping, eating, defecation and urination took place at the seat.

Do they teach this in US schools? I'll bet not. Does Hollywood make any films or series about this? I don't remember ever seeing anything about it.

In 1981 the country of Mauritania became the last country to abolish slavery, although it was only officially criminalized in 2007, yet the practice still goes on today.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/aug/14/slavery-still-shackles-mauritania

https://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/white-slaves/

People from virtually every major culture, civilization, and religious background have made slaves of their own and enslaved other peoples. So, to continually blaming slavery as something invented by Whites is ridiculous and to ask for reparations is even more ridiculous.

Finally, I want to thank you for your post, which I thought was very interesting, because at least you are aware that slavery is not a one way street as so many try to make it. What people did centuries ago has nothing to do with today's generations.
 
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The politics of the pro-slavery Democrats at that time were KKKonservative. To insinuate that the party of the KKK, Jim Crow laws, The Black Codes, was Liberal is beyond disingenuous.

And on to the endless debate I mentioned that distracts from the question of the original post's integrity. You are welcome to make your own argument, but linking to notoriously political left leaning Quora for opinions that match yours doesn't do much to sway me. (I use and like Quora, but they are simply heavily Democratic leaning.)

I would venture you simply don't know anything about the political leanings of the KKK except for their racial attitudes. Certainly not enough to label them conservative (without any definition of such given). Moreover, if it is disingenuous to compare old Democrats to today's Democrats, then it must be equally disingenuous to compare old conservatives to new conservatives. Goose and gander, right?

Of course I am not saying that the old Dems and the KKK were liberal. But then, the modern liberal party is not liberal either. Liberal assumes tolerance and openness to divergent ideas. Don't see much of that today. Probably knee-jerk statist would be a more accurate term.

Back to the original post, you were obviously trying to tie a criminal Democratic party machine of yesterday to the conservatives of today. I'm just pointing it out, not expecting you to change your mind. Nobody does in these arguments, too much emotional investment in political opinions.
 
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