The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[JB Lions]

The concern is people doing their job and not violating the law and then running off to China or Russia with who knows what information. Unless you think that's not a concern.

As far as what's being done, same answer for me:

"It's something that needs to be talked about and I'm sure more information will be coming out, but I do expect the NSA to do NSA stuff."

 

[Domainace]

The concern is people doing their job and not violating the law ...

You keep citing the law. How is it relevant? Is that the deciding factor, or even any factor at all? You do understand that the people in question are the ones who make and enforce the laws, don't you? Does being legal make everything OK? Does being illegal always make it wrong?

And where would you go, if you were Snowden? You'd stay in the US, so you could be thrown in some dark and silent hole never to be heard from again?

 

[Theo Goodman]

Oh brother, if you want to dig up old posts , which all have replies by me thats fine. I already answered your "debunking" many times. I didnt 100% discount it either.
http://www.namepros.com/764342-the-nps-official-usa-political-thread-40.html#post4448815




But if you think that changes one thing about your democratic conspiracy theory then you are:

Straight crazy

To belive that the goverment never ever manipulates any information whatsoever is:

Straight crazy

And to think that there is any fundimental dfference in the 2 parties is:

Straight crazy

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It is tabu to talk about most so called "conspiracies" as you will be called a "wacko" for even speaking a word that shall not be spoken.

http://www.namepros.com/764342-the-nps-official-usa-political-thread-39.html#post4448080

Wacko is giving mexican cartels arms and then talking about gun control and how we need to look in to gang violence. Done by a democratic president. Wacko is funding islamic jihadists in mulitpule countries--Syria-- while cliaming that -they- are one of the main dangers to US "security". That is where the real wackoness lies.

Or are those conspiracy theories?

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I never said "911 didnt happen" but rather I was just presenting just as much evidance that one can find to support a different arguement then the goverment line. By even touching the subject you automaticly get labeled, thats what I am talking about. The automatic stigma. What video or link that I posted was so "crazy". A fireman talking and a news report ? http://www.namepros.com/4447943-post968.html
Wow thats really crazy stuff.

 

[JB Lions]

"I never said "911 didnt happen" but rather I was just presenting just as much evidance that one can find to support a different arguement then the goverment line."

No, you weren't providing anything of the sort. Because nothing pointed to this being some inside job. That's why it was so easily taken apart. You can't do that to something credible.

"You keep citing the law. How is it relevant?"

Try the whole quote, it should explain it.

 

[Theo Goodman]

Please, I posted videos with firefighter and other eye witnesses talking about multipule explosions. NOT videos or texts, links talking about any kind of "inside job". So on the one hand you have the debunker website (who runs it, who made those posts? vaild question, I dont know and couldnt find out, is that "creditable?) and wiki. On the other hand a few videos of eye witnesses and people in the building that report things that are not part of the offical narrative. Thats it, that is what I am trying to show.

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In any case whatever I said or posted still does not proove any "terror plots" were prevented from massive data collection.
That is a democratic conspiracy theory. It is more flimsy than any argument put forth by the so called "conspiracy theorists" that some people lothe.

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[Theo Goodman]

article from a wako conspiracy theory straight crazy website:
http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/06/why-i-have-nothing-to-hide-is-the-wrong-way-to-think-about-surveillance/

 

[GILSAN]

Pretty convincing speech on gun control, if I may say so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B5ELyG9V1SY

 

[DU]

Pretty convincing speech on gun control, if I may say so.

A series of straw-man arguments. If this is what is considered convincing then I got some oceanfront property in Colorado to sell you.

 

[GILSAN]

A series of straw-man arguments. If this is what is considered convincing then I got some oceanfront property in Colorado to sell you.

Is it facing the Pacific or the Atlantic? How much are you selling for?

 

[DU]

Is it facing the Pacific or the Atlantic? How much are you selling for?

It's build in a circular design so both of them silly.
21 million bitcoins.

 

[GILSAN]

It's build in a circular design so both of them silly.
21 million bitcoins.

Don't mind the the silly circular design... got change for a 50 million bitcoin?

 

[Domainace]

It's build in a circular design so both of them silly.
21 million bitcoins.

I know that place.
Hunter S Thomson used to live there. Before he was shot out of a cannon

 

[enlytend]

Ruh-roh...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/02/world/americas/bolivia-presidential-plane

"Hey guys - how can we make this more about Snowden and make people forget that 4th ammendment stuff? I know! Let's start an international incident!"

If that WAS because of US pressure (what other motivation could those countries possibly have?) major foreign policy FAIL.

Argentinian president said it best:

Definitivamente están todos locos.

tr. They're definitely all crazy!

 

[eyedomainous]

Its more likely (Booz-Allen's) Snowden wants You to focus on the Gov and 'your rights'... as there is an corporate 'elephant (train) in the (data) room'.

 

[GILSAN]

Ruh-roh...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/02/world/americas/bolivia-presidential-plane

"Hey guys - how can we make this more about Snowden and make people forget that 4th ammendment stuff? I know! Let's start an international incident!"

If that WAS because of US pressure (what other motivation could those countries possibly have?) major foreign policy FAIL.

Argentinian president said it best: They're definitely all crazy!


tr. They're definitely all crazy!

All these governments are bowing to US pressure. I feel ashamed that my stupid Portuguese government with no cojones also bent down to Obama, by not allowing the Bolivian President's plane to stop over in Lisbon.

But there is a solution...As one of the commenters in the article said:

"Bolivia should cut all cocaine exports to the US, and push Colombia to do the same, within a week you would see all US politicians panicking and killing each other trying to check first into rehab "

What will millions of American do without their dose of coke?

They'll definitely all go crazy!

 

[JB Lions]

"But there is a solution...As one of the commenters in the article said:"

Not the brightest commenter, they would be hurting themselves more if they did that. They love the money. Plus your country of Portugal/Spain uses more cocaine, since it's legal in small amounts.

 

[GILSAN]

Obama must be very sad that his good buddy, Muslim Brotherhood's leader, Morsi of Egypt is under house arrest :]

 

[Theo Goodman]

-people watch media to get validation-
"truthers" debunked
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFkxzBsPcls&feature=player_embedded"]Abby Martin Interviews Ben Swann, Larry King on Breaking the Set about Edward Snowden, NSA - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Domainace]

"But there is a solution...As one of the commenters in the article said:"

Not the brightest commenter, they would be hurting themselves more if they did that. They love the money. Plus your country of Portugal/Spain uses more cocaine, since it's legal in small amounts.

What country is Portugal/Spain? Is that kinda like the country of USA/Mexico? Or Japan/China?

 

[JB Lions]

Google the meaning of forward slash. If you can't figure it out, I'll explain it to you later. When you saw Male/Female, you thought?