The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[RaiderGirl]

Please take your racial stereotype bullshit somewhere else. There are plenty more LEGAL hispanics than illegal.

How about you take your Race Card bullshit somewhere else?

I clearly noted in post #324,

"Like Rep "Loretta Sanchez" who legally changed her last name from "Brixey" to Sanchez so she could appeal to the Hispanic vote.

If you spent more time reading what's important and LESS time reading what you can attack other members with, maybe others would respect you more, something you clearly lack.

Back to my latest post, the one you intentionally manipulated, The intent was to address Voter ID, this is why only the word "Illegal" was used, And yet you excluded the VOTER ID line when quoting my post, taking my post completely out of context and trying to label me a Racist, nice try, But all this shows is how empty, desperate and unintelligent you are, It's another reminder that you bring nothing to these discussions, no defense of the last 4 years whatsoever, If I were to cite the $5.4 Trillion dollars Obama added to the debt, your response to that would be; Attack the messenger OR "Romney is a Racist, Felon who murdered a woman while at Bain"

Back to race, May I remind you that it was the Democratic party, YOUR Party who fought against civil rights in the 1950-60s? Your party that fought against abolishing slavery? YOUR party that stood for segregation, where Democrat George Wallace stood in front of a Alabama schoolhouse in 1963 and said; "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever"

JFK may of been racist as well, otherwise why would he vote against the 1957 Civil Rights act when he was Senator? Why would he oppose the MLK march on Washington in 1963?, Why would his brother Robert wire tap Dr. King? And JFK never made any such call for MLK's release out of jail, he wanted MLK jailed, It was Civil rights advisor Harris Wofford who made the call for his release, documented in Wofford's book.

I think the good Doctor viewed the Democratic party as Racist, perhaps that's why he, his wife and entire family were all REPUBLICAN, bet you didn't know that.

And speaking of Republicans, may I also remind you it was a Republican who started the NAACP, It was Mitt Romney who showed up at the NAACP meeting this election year while Obama stayed away.. It was also Republicans who were responsible for passing the civil rights act, having far more votes than democrats. It was Republican Richard Nixon who started affirmative action, The list is quite extensive but I'll end it here, Fact is the Republican party has done far more for Blacks than Democrats ever have. And GW Bush? He did more for Blacks in his 8 years in office than Obama did in his entire life.

National unemployment rate amongst blacks? 16.7% according to CNN
Unemployment rate amongst Hispanics? 14%

CNN (and other like minded news outlets) are reminding President Obama that black unemployment is much higher than that of his predecessors for nearly 30 years. According to CNN Money, the black unemployment rate is 16.7 percent. Black men are unemployed at 19.1 percent and Black women are unemployed at 14.5 percent.

When President George W. bush was in office (his vilified predecessor), he handed President Obama a Black unemployment rate of 11.5 percent (according to the Washington Times).

And they continue to support the WRONG party... Proof positive of how well the Democratic party hijacked the Black and Latino vote.

And what did we see at the Democratic convention? Jerusalem removed from DNC platform, GOD removed, A fake Indian and a Hispanic who doesn't speak Spanish... lol

I called it racial stereotyping - I should have called it ethnic stereotyping, my apologies.

I call it "Racial Stupidity" and you do it so well.

 

[Theo Goodman]

:zzz:So basicly racism does not exsit. If you wish to talk about it then you must be from some liberal TV network or media clan. However it is ok to jump on top of the very harsh anti white "racist" comment. All people that commented about the white trash comment, STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD, and keep America American. Racism...Racism... We all know privlage is a communist ploy.
Meanwhile while people argue over what kind of pants Rmoney wore there is a proxy war in Syria supported by both parties, but who cares!

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let me remind you that the republicans started adding "CZARS" to the goverment. Clearly the republicans are in with the commies. So now both parties are communist. The democrats are headed by the anti christ and the republicans are headed by a Morman. With the oh so crystal clear anti-racist republican past, I wonder what party the KKK will vote for, I guess they will stay true to the roots and vote democrat, like any true racist would.

Lets add to this thread by giving the fusion centers what they want.

 

[RaiderGirl]

That a large illegal Latino population is "prone" to voter fraud?

Voter fraud absolutely occurs with illegal aliens, and their not always Latino... And you know theirs no such statistical material so let's not play games, The people who live here in Southern California like I do and stand in line at polling places know it's happening, you'd have to be blind not to see it.

I wonder what party the KKK will vote for,

Maybe we can dig up their exalted leader Democrat Robert Byrd and ask him.

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Racist... Racist... Racist.... Here we go again; another Chris Mathews parrot. Seems like it's impossible to have a political discussion without being accused of being a racist.

Can you remember a earlier time prior to 2008 of being accused of racism to this degree? I cant.. It's to the point where nobody can criticize the most leftist administration in our history without someone accusing us of racism.

They play it every time when their on a LOSING side of the issue OR when trying to denigrate the opposition. Like when Democrats accused Republicans of Racism when Eric Holder was found in contempt over Fast and Furious. Like when Franklin Raines was caught cooking the books at Fannie Mae and giving himself a $50 million salary package, That was a Republican lynching too..

And when Obama injected Race against a Cambridge police officer he didn't know, didn't know the facts, didn't know anything other than the fact his friend was black and the police officer was white. Which can ONLY mean one thing, the police officer was a RACIST. It couldn't possibly be that he was doing his job, NO WAY.

The list is endless, but what's so laughable about being accused of racism on a forum like this, is that these same members have NO clue what Race I am, I'm certainly NOT white and I was certainly NOT born in the USA.. I'm not even going to say, I'd rather continue seeing members like DefaultUser make complete fools of them self.

 

[GILSAN]

Can you remember a earlier time prior to 2008 of being accused of racism to this degree? I cant.. It's to the point where nobody can criticize the most leftist administration in our history without someone accusing us of racism.

They play it every time when their on a LOSING side of the issue OR when trying to denigrate the opposition. Like when Democrats accused Republicans of Racism when Eric Holder was found in contempt over Fast and Furious. Like when Franklin Raines was caught cooking the books at Fannie Mae and giving himself a $50 million salary package, That was a Republican lynching too..

And when Obama injected Race against a Cambridge police officer he didn't know, didn't know the facts, didn't know anything other than the fact his friend was black and the police officer was white. Which can ONLY mean one thing, the police officer was a RACIST. It couldn't possibly be that he was doing his job, NO WAY.

The list is endless, but what's so laughable about being accused of racism on a forum like this, is that these same members have NO clue what Race I am, I'm certainly NOT white and I was certainly NOT born in the USA.. I'm not even going to say, I'd rather continue seeing members like DefaultUser make complete fools of them self.

Because I don't give a damn about being politically correct I've been called a wide range of names on this and the Ron Paul thread.

It's very trendy amongst liberals to bring up the race card which is aimed at making people feel guilty and afraid to touch the subject.

Like you said there are so many examples of bringing up the race card, that if we were to mention them all, then this thread would have twice as many posts as the popular Shoot the Sh.. thread

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I wonder what party the KKK will vote for,

I wonder what party the Black Panthers will vote for. Will they be hanging around some voting locations intimidating voters to vote on the "Empty Chair" like they did in 2008?

 

[RaiderGirl]

It's very trendy amongst liberals to bring up the race card which is aimed at making people feel guilty and afraid to touch the subject.

Exactly.. And they usually use it when the Facts hurt the most.

Were debating with people who actually believe that Obama sued the State of Arizona over it's immigration law because he "cares" about the rights of Hispanics, when in reality it was done primarily to capture the Hispanic vote, Saying to every legal and Illegal; "I'm on your side, that I will NOT enforce our countries immigration laws and I will do what it takes for you to remain here because I Barack Obama CARE about you" What a great and compassionate guy he is NOT!

They seem to forget that Obama didn't do squat in his first two years on immigration reform when his party controlled both houses of congress, he could of easily passed reform if he wanted too, Instead he sat on his ass playing Politician and Chief and let Republicans take over the House of Rep. in early 2011 and then had the audacity to blame Republicans for obstructing the dream act, which many Democrats of his own party did NOT support.

With Obama, it's NOT about doing the right thing, it's all about being re-elected, where he will say anything, promise anything and do anything to capture a particular base, YES, even Criminals, In 2008 the Obama campaign met with the Sentencing Project and ACLU on how to register felons, I kid you not.. It seems that hard data came out that suggest Felons vote Democratic (why am I not surprised?) So Obama took on the position that felons should be able to vote, that felons are quote "disenfranchised".

No doubt if that same data were to suggest Felons vote Republican, we would see Obama coming down hard on the enforcement of our current law where felons are not allowed to vote.

Enforce the laws when they work for you, Break the laws when they work against you, Only in a Obama administration.

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I wonder what party the Black Panthers will vote for. Will they be hanging around some voting locations intimidating voters to vote on the "Empty Chair" like they did in 2008?

:bingo:

Nice one!

 

[Theo Goodman]

"you'd have to be blind not to see it."
What do these illegal voters look like? You checked their ID?
"Enforce the laws when they work for you, Break the laws when they work against you, Only in a Obama administration."
Really? so the Obama administration is the only one that did, does things like this? Please.

"Originally Posted by GILSAN View Post
I wonder what party the Black Panthers will vote for. Will they be hanging around some voting locations intimidating voters to vote on the "Empty Chair" like they did in 2008?


Nice one! "

This hits it on the head. The "Black Panthers" do not exsist anymore, they were destroyed,assassined,and imprisoned on often trumped up charges. This so called "New black panther" party that exsits in philly , has no connection other than the name and outfit contrary than what you have heard on the right wing media. Interesting is that the KKK, was not destroyed and members were not assassinted by a goverment program. The Black Panther Party was started to demand that a traffic light be installed where many children were run over. The KKK was started in order to maintain white privlage after the civil war. Therefore it is not possilbe to just say KKK=Black Panthers, there are many other reasons why this is absurd. Everything is equal and without context? Stop playing the race card and then complaining about it, you are playing the "black panther card" and the "all illegals can vote because of Obama" cards. The hovering "threat" of "illegals" voting is in fact playing the race card. When anyone asks for numbers they suddendly dont exsit ,because they are "illegals" therefore this card can always be played. What a killer arguement, one without any numbers or hard facts since it is "illegal". Guess what party was in power during much of the COINTELPRO program that was responsible for the assaination of Fred Hampton and possibily MLK? DEMOCRAT. All of this can be looked up via declassified documents. Neither party thinks Fusion Centers are bad. The democrats had the THE proxy war masterminds Clinton and Clinton speak and support them. Guess Mrs. Clintion is finished planning the syrian war and got a job offer from some consulting firm or a think tank. I didnt watch either convention, to be honest. Its just boring. I did run across the video from the RNC when the nice lady from Porto Rico was trying to speak and people were shouting USA USA USA so loud she couldnt start. Was this by chance? Do they realise that PR is owned by the USA and the people that live there cant vote? Maybe they thought that PR is cuba? Strange video. It could be as simple as just yelling USA USA and other people start yelling it as well.For some strange reason I dont think Robert Byrd will vote for Obama, however he might find it hard to vote for a Morman. Best result- Lowest voter turnout EVER

 

[RaiderGirl]

so the Obama administration is the only one that did, does things like this? Please.

YES!, Or maybe you can point to one US President who intentionally does not enforce our nations laws solely for political gain, I cant think of one, Democrat or Republican.

I also cant think of one President who sues States as much as Obama has. Strong arming businesses just because their Republican contributors. He's even gone as far as to sue a Sheriff in Arizona on bogus charges, which BTW were recently ALL dropped.

And do you know who he's suing now? GALLUP!

Yes, he's suing one of the most credible pollsters in the US on a old bogus charge after GALLUP came out with a poll that showed Romney ahead!

OUTRAGEOUS.


Emails suggest Axelrod leaned on Gallup after unfavorable poll

Published September 06, 2012

Employees at the venerable Gallup polling firm suggested they felt threatened by Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod when he questioned the methodology of a mid-April poll showing Mitt Romney leading the president – according to internal emails published Thursday.

That poll showed Romney leading Obama 48-43 percent.

The exchange, according to emails published by The Daily Caller, started when Axelrod sent a tweet saying the tracking poll was “saddled with some methodological problems” and directing followers to a National Journal story in which a professor suggested outdated sampling.

According to the email chain titled “Axelrod vs. Gallup,” the White House in addition asked that a Gallup staffer “come over and explain our methodology,” which was apparently perceived as a subtle threat.

A Gallup official said in an email he thought Axelrod’s pressure “sounds a little like a Godfather situation.”

“Imagine Axel[rod] with Brando’s voice: ‘I’d like you to come over and explain your methodology…You got a nice poll there … would be a shame if anything happened to it… .’”

The exchanges also show that Gallup invited White House officials to its Washington offices, but it remains unclear whether any of the meetings occurred.

However, when Gallup declined to change its polling methodology, the Obama administration’s Justice Department revived a 2009 whistle-blower lawsuit against the firm by joining the suit, a senior Gallup official alleges.

The suit was filed by former Gallup employee Michael Lindley, who claims the firm violated the False Claims Act by overcharging the federal government for its services.

Gallup declined to talk about the issue. Calls to the Justice Department, the White House and the Obama campaign have not been returned.

Obama campaign adviser Robert Gibbs told The Washington Times this week that he was unaware of any communications between the campaign and Gallup.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-gallup-after-unfavorable-poll/#ixzz2647AR2hc

What do these illegal voters look like? You checked their ID?

LMAO!!!

Now that's funny. If they had ID they wouldn't be illegal, unless of course the ID was fake

 

[enlytend]

Every Democratic convention in history has had the word "God" in it's platform

The first democratic conventions were in the early 1800's. Our founding fathers, having seen first-hand the repercussions of the combination of religion and state, deliberately architected our government to serve a population where all beliefs (and lack thereof) were accepted equally.

Just for fun, here's the democratic party platform from 1840:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=29572

And the Republican party platform, 1856:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=29619

The word "god" doesn't appear in either.

Our country's original motto: E Pluribus Unim = "Out of many, one", or "one from many." Which is what is missing from this country today, with various "sides" sticking labels on anyone who expresses a differing viewpoint and hurling hate-filled invective at the first sign of disagreement. I'm not singling anyone out - both "sides" are doing it. We all get sucked into it. Lots of examples in this thread.

Essentially every human being in this country - every person on EARTH - wants the same things:

To have food, clothing, shelter. To be able to care for their family. To have the same human rights and dignities as everyone else. To be treated with respect. To feel safe living their lives and believing what they believe. To be healthy. To be happy.

The rest is window dressing.

It's a shame we haven't evolved to the point of putting all the nonsense aside and prioritizing on the basics.

 

[RaiderGirl]

The first democratic conventions were in the early 1800's.

I need to learn to post like a Lawyer.

Recent History

 

[eyedomainous]

People play the hand dealt. If you don't want minorities to "play the race card", don't deal it. The days of minorities taking race cards lying down, and going to the back of the bus are over.

Attempts to brow beat them into a "don't play the race card" mindset reflects the massa mentality of plantation politics. If anything, a public awareness campaign is needed to root-out race cards, gender cards, etc.

Truth is, minorities are in a game called "majority rule". "The house" is the dealer, and race cards have always been used to 'stack the deck'.

Of course, race card dealers almost always deny dealing a race card. When caught, dealers try to 'turn the tables' with "NO! thats not a race card, your just a sore loser."

Also, because the 'race card' is now dealt in coded lanquage the dealers think their racism is cloaked, and this makes it deniable.

Former Republican National Committee chairman, Lee Atwater, explained how Republicans deal the 'race card'.

"In 1954 you could use N**ger. By 1968 you can't. It hurts you. Backfires. So we said stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites".

I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me? --because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than N**ger.” [1981 interview by author Alexander Lamis. Book: Southern Politics in the 1990s].

Here is the current chairman of the Republican National Committee pretending he does not know what Chris Matthews is talking about.​

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlM5VAh-17c"]Don't Race Card Me Bro![/ame]​

 

[Theo Goodman]

Given time and effort I am sure any and all presidents have violented laws in order to be elected. That is part of the game. You said that you would have to be blind not to see the illegal voting, wondering what these illegal voters look like, it sounds like a real life account.
Sorry but if you argue like a lawyer then expect that others do the same.
Same goes for the RACE CARD, that apperently can only be used one way?
War in Syria heating up, Fusion centers with more unchecked power than ever, nobody cares.

 

[GILSAN]

Here is the current chairman of the Republican National Committee pretending he does not know what Chris Matthews is talking about.​

Don't Race Card Me Bro!​

Chris Matthews...What a pathetic example of a human being you've given us. This idiot eats, drinks, shits and has nightmares about how whites are such racists. In his teeny weeny little brain only whites are racists. Every 2nd word that this vile creature says is... "Racist". Take that word out of his vocabulary and its guaranteed he would lose his job at MSNBC, as he wouldn't know what to talk about. I'll bet my dog would piss on his legs if he ever were to encounter Chris Mathews.

I could put up dozens of YT Videos showing Chris Mathews being put in his place, but I'll just show you a very recent one when he tried to come up with the "Race Card" (what else?) at the RNC just over a week ago:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mF6zEtSfns"]Newt Gingrich Blasts Chris Matthews for "Racist Thinking" - YouTube[/ame]

BTW, your Avatar is pretty irritating and a big eyesore.

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War in Syria heating up, Fusion centers with more unchecked power than ever, nobody cares.

Lots of people care. What should be done? Should Bashar al Assad remain in power? Should the Opposition forces take over? Should Bashar leave the country and hand over to the opposition? Should the US get involved or not? Are sanctions working?

Give us your opinion about Syria.

 

[Theo Goodman]

This is great
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/w...hange-2---the-party-of-inclusion?xrs=share_fb


Assad should stay in power. NATO and the Gulf Arab states are trying to destabalize Syria by funding Islamic mercenaries. Obama is openly supporting the "opposition" which wants to install a Islamic state. These mercenaries are attemting to provoke inter-religious clashes between christians and muslums. They are using Turkey as a gateway to enter Syria. Isnt it interesting that people talk about if "God" is included on some paper and not so interested that Christians are being targeted for killing by NATO-USA backed mercenaries? Do not be suprised to hear of some kind of WMD or Chemical weapon (like in Lybia) excuse to start bombing or invade. NATO backed fighters should leave Syria and stop terrorising the people there.



Its so funny, so basicly you can not talk about racism at all? Sounds pretty PC to me. I guess racism is totaly destroyed and has no instutional structures.

 

[GILSAN]

This is great
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/w...hange-2---the-party-of-inclusion?xrs=share_fb


Assad should stay in power. NATO and the Gulf Arab states are trying to destabalize Syria by funding Islamic mercenaries. Obama is openly supporting the "opposition" which wants to install a Islamic state. These mercenaries are attemting to provoke inter-religious clashes between christians and muslums. They are using Turkey as a gateway to enter Syria. Isnt it interesting that people talk about if "God" is included on some paper and not so interested that Christians are being targeted for killing by NATO-USA backed mercenaries? Do not be suprised to hear of some kind of WMD or Chemical weapon (like in Lybia) excuse to start bombing or invade. NATO backed fighters should leave Syria and stop terrorising the people there.

The Video is interesting. I always enjoy Jon Stewart.

As for Syria, the situation is getting worse and beginning to look more like another Iraq. Now I ask you, why would NATO be funding Islamic mercenaries? Arab states yes, but NATO? Makes no sense, especially after what happened in North Africa and especially in Egypt. I wouldn't be surprised to see Israel attacking Iran before the US elections.

Over a million Cristians were forced to leave Iraq to escape Muslim persecution and now the same is happening in Syria.

Not sure what the solution is but it sure is making Syria's neighbors pretty nervous.

BTW lets not forget that in Lybia it was the Arab League that asked for NATO intervention to stop the advance of Ghadaffi. That's because the Arab countries talk too much but don't have the courage or the balls to intervene in a local dispute, so these cowards ask the US and Europe to do the dirty work.

Its so funny, so basicly you can not talk about racism at all? Sounds pretty PC to me. I guess racism is totaly destroyed and has no instutional structures.

It's not that I don't want to talk about racism, its just that if we do, this thread will probably be closed in no time at all by some moderator. If you really want to get into a debate on racism start a new thread.

My opinion is that the more the Liberal Media and Liberals try to shove down everyone's throats that racism is only exclusively practiced by whites then the more radical the positions will become. The Jon Steward video is an example of how intolerant Liberals are towards conservatives and how they look down on them. To them, all Conservatives are white, stupid, big bellied, dumb, gun-toting rednecks, while the liberals are Gods chosen children.

Now I'm beginning to understand why the DNC decided initially not to have God in their agenda. Its because they wanted to nominate Obummer as their God on the 3rd day.

There is only one God, the other is an "Open Chair"

 

[JB Lions]

"To them, all Conservatives are white, stupid, big bellied, dumb, gun-toting rednecks, while the liberals are Gods chosen children."

I wouldn't say that, I think most aren't. But just that if you happen to be "white, stupid, big bellied, dumb, gun-toting rednecks," you're more likely to be a Republican than Democrat. Is that even up for debate? I saw the nice history lesson earlier but today, in 2012, if you happen to be racist, you're more likely to a Republican than a Democrat, between those two. They have done things to try to suppress the black vote - http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/

And some of the things do have some racist undertones because when the Republican party says stuff like welfare, food stamps etc, to some in that party, that means black. Even tho in regards to food stamps:

36 percent were white (non-Hispanic),
22 percent were African American (non-Hispanic)
10 percent were Hispanic

To add on to the history lesson:

"In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to the Republican Party strategy of winning elections or to gain political support in the Southern section of the country by appealing to racism against African Americans."

"The strategy was successful in some regards. It contributed to the electoral realignment of Southern states to the Republican Party, but at the expense of losing more than 90 percent of black voters to the Democratic Party"

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy"]Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[RaiderGirl]

Chris Matthews...What a pathetic example of a human being you've given us. This idiot eats, drinks, shits and has nightmares about how whites are such racists. In his teeny weeny little brain only whites are racists. Every 2nd word that this vile creature says is... "Racist". Take that word out of his vocabulary and its guaranteed he would lose his job at MSNBC, as he wouldn't know what to talk about. I'll bet my dog would piss on his legs if he ever were to encounter Chris Mathews.

When the opposition posts links from MSNBC and the Comedy Channel, you know exactly what side of the argument their on, and it's not the winning side.

I find hilarious that because I post a reference to Hispanics, that many of them DO vote, that is somehow deserving of the race card being played.. Aside from the fact I've spoken to many hispanics, some from Guatemala who have voted illegally and have 4 friends who are permanent residents and VOTE, Aside from all that, the fact that Democrats fight tooth and nail against Voter ID is proof positive they vote.

Anyone who buys into the argument from Obama and the left that denying the right of felons, ex-cons and illegal aliens to vote is an act of disenfranchisement, needs to have their head examined.

What happened to rule of LAW? It seems that somewhere in the last 4 years it got thrown out the window, that it's OK to break the law when our President makes a conscious decision NOT to enforce it.

Without question, the Obama campaign encourages voter fraud by targeting groups who have no legal right to vote, they even target Dead dogs to vote if you can believe that.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/dead-dogs-voting-for-obama/question-2801439/

 

[JB Lions]

When the opposition posts links from MSNBC and the Comedy Channel, you know exactly what side of the argument their on, and it's not the winning side.

I find hilarious that because I post a reference to Hispanics, that many of them DO vote, that is somehow deserving of the race card being played.. Aside from the fact I've spoken to many hispanics, some from Guatemala who have voted illegally and have 4 friends who are permanent residents and VOTE, Aside from all that, the fact that Democrats fight tooth and nail against Voter ID is proof positive they vote.

Anyone who buys into the argument from Obama and the left that denying the right of felons, ex-cons and illegal aliens to vote is an act of disenfranchisement, needs to have their head examined.

What happened to rule of LAW? It seems that somewhere in the last 4 years it got thrown out the window, that it's OK to break the law when our President makes a conscious decision NOT to enforce it.

Without question, the Obama campaign encourages voter fraud by targeting groups who have no legal right to vote, they even target Dead dogs to vote if you can believe that.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/dead-dogs-voting-for-obama/question-2801439/

First, how do dead dogs and dead people actually vote?

Second - http://politic365.com/2012/08/30/nra-card-ok-but-not-student-id-fed-court-blocks-texas-voter-id-law/

So, in your opinion this is fair to you:

Can use NRA card, no photo
Can't use Student ID, with photo

Also, when Bush was president, the Justice Department looked into this:

In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud
"about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year."
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?pagewanted=all

 

[GILSAN]

"To them, all Conservatives are white, stupid, big bellied, dumb, gun-toting rednecks, while the liberals are Gods chosen children."

I wouldn't say that, I think most aren't. But just that if you happen to be "white, stupid, big bellied, dumb, gun-toting rednecks," you're more likely to be a Republican than Democrat. Is that even up for debate? I saw the nice history lesson earlier but today, in 2012, if you happen to be racist, you're more likely to a Republican than a Democrat, between those two. They have done things to try to suppress the black vote - http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/

The link above has the following headline: Fla. Republican: We wanted to suppress black votes
Now explain me something, did they send a group of white, stupid, big bellied, dumb, gun-toting redneck hillbillies to the voting booths to intimidate the black brothers to not vote for Obummer. They must have learned that from the New Black Panthers.

Or is this article refering to the Voter ID law that the Democrats hate so much. Virtually everywhere you go in the US you are asked for an ID. Whats the problem with showing a Voter ID to vote? I know why.

And some of the things do have some racist undertones because when the Republican party says stuff like welfare, food stamps etc, to some in that party, that means black. Even tho in regards to food stamps:

36 percent were white (non-Hispanic),
22 percent were African American (non-Hispanic)
10 percent were Hispanic

These are very interesting numbers. Just like Bill Clinton I also love mathematics. Lets look at your numbers:

36 percent were white (non-Hispanic), (They make up aprox. 68% of the US Population)
22 percent were African American (non-Hispanic) (They make up aprox. 13% of the US Population
10 percent were Hispanic (They make up aprox. 15% of the US Population)

Without using a calculator it's pretty obvious from these percentages that African Americans are about 3 times more reliant on food stamps than whites, while Hispanics are less reliant than African Americans, but still more reliant than whites.

These are very simple numbers and very easy to dissect. Now, are you gonna call me a racist for these facts that I didn't invent? Go ahead call me racist. I don't really care, because these numbers don't lie.

Now you tell me what's the reason for such a massive reliance by African Americans on food stamps? And don't tell me it was Bush's fault

 

[RaiderGirl]

First, how do dead dogs and dead people actually vote?

If more than 3 absentee ballots arrived at your home, 1 for yourself, 1 for your dog and 1 for your deceased spouse, Are you going to tell me someone like yourself who has a hard-on for Obama isn't going to use all 3?

Can use NRA card, no photo
Can't use Student ID, with photo

Any State or Federal issued ID with photo would be more than acceptable. Everything else, NO.

 

[JB Lions]

"Now explain me something, did they send a group of white, stupid, big bellied, dumb, gun-toting redneck hillbillies to the voting booths to intimidate the black brothers to not vote for Obummer. They must have learned that from the New Black Panthers."

Are you talking about that 1 isolated incident? When you use an exception to make an argument, you never had a good argument in the first place.

As to your other question, how many generations are we from all the Civil Rights problems we had in this country?

If more than 3 absentee ballots arrived at your home, 1 for yourself, 1 for your dog and 1 for your deceased spouse, Are you going to tell me someone like yourself who has a hard-on for Obama isn't going to use all 3?

Did you miss the link I posted above? The scant evidence of voter fraud. You don't think there are Republicans that would be all over this, prosecuting it? That goes the other direction as well, ask Gilsan, who was talking about Diebold/Ron Paul in the other thread, voter fraud in Florida etc, where the Republicans were the beneficiary. If you believe that stuff.

Any State or Federal issued ID with photo would be more than acceptable. Everything else, NO.

Great, so we agree on that, that the Texas Voter ID law had some issues. You don't think NRA members lean to the Right?