The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[DNWon]

FBI official says bureau leaked stories, then used them to get FISA warrants
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ries-then-used-them-to-get-fisa-warrants.html

No surprise there!

 

[Kate]

Phew, what a relief, it's just DOJ & FBI fabricating cases.
Trump is clean, Flynn is innocent, Cohen is innocent, Manafort is innocent,...
You wonder why some of them have already pleaded guilty. That must be the power of the Deep State.

 

[GILSAN]

Hey BBC, let me correct that headline for you:

German stabbed to death and 2 others seriously injured by Iraqi and Syrian migrants, alarms normal, concerned Germans in Chemnitz...

 

[DNWon]

Flynn is innocent, Cohen is innocent, Manafort is innocent,...
You wonder why some of them have already pleaded guilty.

Nice spin Kate, because they all committed crimes, or in Cohen's case have been charged with crimes, they committed before Trump took office or committed years ago, that have nothing to do with Trump or Russian Collusion other than the payment to the porn star perhaps? But most likely, not even that is a crime!

The lies that Flynn told FBI agents:

• Flynn claimed he did not ask Kislyak to attempt to "refrain from escalating the situation" after sanctions were imposed against Russia by the Obama administration during a December 29, 2016 conversation.
• Flynn "did not recall" that Kisylak told him that Russia planned a moderate response to the sanctions thanks to that conversation.
• Flynn claimed that he did not ask Kislyak to delay or defeat a pending vote on a U.N. Security Council resolution during a conversation on December 22, 2016

Manafort and Gates were charged with financial crimes and lobbying crimes which took place years ago.

Cohen lied on loan applications in regard to his fledgling taxi cab company years ago.

Now let's look at all of those involved in the Hillary email scandal of which 30,000 emails are still missing.
Three More Hillary Clinton Witnesses Were Given Immunity by FBI
https://www.thedailybeast.com/three-more-hillary-clinton-witnesses-were-given-immunity-by-fbi

James Comey said he looked “very hard” but couldn’t make an obstruction case “against any of the subjects we looked at.” He claimed not to have the evidence.

But the case suffered from the fact that he was denied evidence by Clinton and her minions, including:

• A personal Apple email server used by Clinton in her first two months in office.
• An Apple MacBook and thumb drive that contained her email archives, which was “lost” in the mail.
• Two BlackBerry devices that were missing SIM cards and SD data cards.
• 13 mobile devices either lost or smashed with hammers.
• Two iPads.
• Server backup files that were deleted.
• Copies of emails located on the laptops of Mills and another aide who got immunity that were wiped clean with software called BleachBit after the Benghazi committee sought the documents.
• Clinton’s server email archive, which was deleted using BleachBit by Combetta after the emails were subpoenaed.
• Backups of the server email files, which were manually deleted.

This mass destruction of evidence was known to Comey. It’s in his investigative case summary. Yet he couldn’t make an obstruction case?

“Any one of those in that long list says obstruction of justice,” Ratcliffe said. “Collectively, they scream obstruction of justice.”

Ignoring such evidence leads “not just reasonable prosecutors but reasonable people to believe that maybe the decision on this was made a long time ago not to prosecute Hillary Clinton,”

In the course of Bob Mueller's investigation of Russian collusion, he has uncovered crimes committed long ago, by people involved in the Trump campaign, having nothing to do with Russia collusion.

In the course of James Comey's investigation of Hillary Clinton's email server, ALL the parties that had information were given immunity, and Hillary was cleared before ever being interviewed!

Two sham investigations handled two very different ways, with two very different outcomes for those involved!

 

[JB Lions]

the only thing abnormal about it, is the level of vitriol and obstruction from the left and the media!

it's quite astounding actually!

Oh, be real. We have actual obstruction and vitriol from the President.

FBI official says bureau leaked stories, then used them to get FISA warrants
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ries-then-used-them-to-get-fisa-warrants.html

No surprise there!

No surprise you posted that. Now check the replies to his tweet. This is the same guy that we talked about earlier, who said Twitter was blocking tweets, when it was his settings.

 

[JB Lions]

Then you're copying and pasting stuff from this guy, Paul Sperry, "an American conservative author and political commentator" Basically your last post.

 

[Kate]

Nice spin Kate, because they all committed crimes, or in Cohen's case have been charged with crimes, they committed before Trump took office or committed years ago, that have nothing to do with Trump or Russian Collusion other than the payment to the porn star perhaps? But most likely, not even that is a crime!

My point precisely, long-time criminals, and Trump knew it, because they committed some of those crimes on his behalf, for his own benefit. Trump knows them very well, but unfortunately they also know Trump well and they are now singing. Stay tuned for more.

In the course of James Comey's investigation of Hillary Clinton's email server, ALL the parties that had information were given immunity, and Hillary was cleared before ever being interviewed!

Two sham investigations handled two very different ways, with two very different outcomes for those involved!

Here you are comparing (rotten) apples to oranges.
First of all, the nature of the 'crime' is very different.
Second, you don't get immunity for free, but in exchange for cooperation with the FBI.
From the article you quoted:

Potential witnesses are only given immunity when investigators have concluded they cannot obtain the information they need from any other sources.

Allen Weisselberg, David Pecker have struck immunity deals too

 

[DNWon]

Then you're copying and pasting stuff from this guy, Paul Sperry, "an American conservative author and political commentator"

Oh I see, so that makes it untrue! Because the author is a conservative? What is not accurate in what i posted? Do you realize how asinine that is? I'm not sure who Paul Sperry is? What I posted is a mis-mash of facts gathered and my opinion.

 

[JB Lions]

Oh I see, so that makes it untrue! Because the author is a conservative? What is not accurate in what i posted? Do you realize how asinine that is? I'm not sure who Paul Sperry is? What I posted is a mis-mash of facts gathered and my opinion.

What you posted is a copy and paste from this page - https://nypost.com/2016/09/28/the-fbis-hillary-email-probe-is-looking-even-more-like-a-coverup/

I can tell when people copy and paste vs. gathering info on their own and making their own post.

 

[DNWon]

I can tell when people copy and paste vs. gathering info on their own and making their own post.

Yes I wanted the bullet point list for Kate's benefit of all the evidence that Hillary's staff destroyed before they were given immunity. Comey determined there was no evidence, as it was destoyed or missing, but no obstruction charges were leveled because they were given immunity.

My apologies to Paul Sperry for not citing his work! Ugh!!

 

[JB Lions]

Fact is, Hillary has never been charged with anything, from emails to Benghazi. Sorry.

Fact is, people close to Trump are being indicted, charged with felonies, admitting to felonies, flipping on Trump, video of Trump, audio of Trump, known lying.........................endless. Doesn't matter how many times you mention Hillary or try to distract, it doesn't change that fact.

He's not going to flip or distract his way out of this.

I guess today he's blaming the media, maybe he has a rotation. Tomorrow it will be Sessions again, or Hillary, then media..........:

results on “Trump News” are from National Left-Wing Media, very dangerous. Google & others are suppressing voices of Conservatives and hiding information and news that is good. They are controlling what we can & cannot see. This is a very serious situation-will be addressed!

1. 
   Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
   
   
   
   Google search results for “Trump News” shows only the viewing/reporting of Fake News Media. In other words, they have it RIGGED, for me & others, so that almost all stories & news is BAD. Fake CNN is prominent. Republican/Conservative & Fair Media is shut out. Illegal? 96% of....

 

[DNWon]

Fact is, Hillary has never been charged with anything, from emails to Benghazi. Sorry.

Fact is, people close to Trump are being indicted, charged with felonies, admitting to felonies, flipping on Trump, video of Trump, audio of Trump, known lying.........................endless. Doesn't matter how many times you mention Hillary or try to distract, it doesn't change that fact.

Exactly my point, the investigations into both Hillary and Trump were handled completely different from the get-go.

Had they investigated Hillary's staff properly or at all, even, they would have found things, like they have with Trump's people. Obviously Obstruction of Justice just to start! But they never did, they shut down any investigation right from the start. Her staff destroyed all the evidence of wrongdoing. And because Comey was running it, nothing was ever done!

On the other hand Mueller is squeezing everybody to try and get people to implicate Trump in a crime.
All they have so far is a hush money payment to a porn star for a 12 year old affair, a payment we've known about for a year already!

It's not a distraction, it's a fact that the two investigations were a sham. Hillary's was never even done and Trump's was started from a fictitious dossier! The crimes uncovered during the Mueller investigation are old financial crimes. He's praying someone tries to save their own ass, like Cohen!

 

[JB Lions]

It's not a fictitious dossier and it wasn't based on that alone. We've been over that many times.

"Had they investigated Hillary's staff properly or at all, even, they would have found things, like they have with Trump's people"

They did look at her, they made their decision.

Has nothing to do with the investigation going on now, which is actually producing results.

 

[enlytend]

The tweetfit about Google (yet another groundless accusation he’s making up and pulling out of his butt) is just another distraction.

By now the media should know to ignore this drivel or post it in small print in a little corner at the bottom of the page. instead they amplify it. Either they’re clueless or (more likely) they’re afraid of losing out on pageviews.

And it is drivel. I’ve gone over that misconception before, look it up in old threads because I’m not explaining it again.

 

[GILSAN]

Dow Jones goes over 26,000 for the first time in History!

 

[JB Lions]

Dow Jones goes over 26,000 for the first time in History!

lol, it was higher in January of this year. It's still lower now than it was in January. I wonder what percentage of this thread just goes to correcting bs/lies/misinformation from Trump fans.

It was 26,616.71 on January 26th of this year.

26,616 > 26,048

 

[GILSAN]

Mollie Tibbets was a hardcore Liberal according to her tweets...

The same policies she supported, ended up getting her killed. Once she was gone, the Left completely distanced themselves calling her “A White Girl” and “Some Girl in Iowa”.

Democrats don’t care about their voters!

 

[JB Lions]

haha - fear tactics to get votes

Trump warned evangelical leaders of 'violence' if GOP loses midterms: report

President Trump reportedly told evangelical leaders at the White House on Monday that Republican losses in this year's midterms will lead to liberals "violently" overturning his administration's accomplishments for the Christian community...........

If the GOP loses control of Congress, he warned, "they will overturn everything that we've done and they'll do it quickly and violently, and violently." It's unclear who specifically Trump was referring to.

"There's violence. When you look at Antifa and you look at some of these groups — these are violent people," he said.

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...cal-leaders-of-violence-if-gop-loses-election

Little over 2 months away, right now Dems are projected to take The House.

 

[E-Promote]

Dow Jones goes over 26,000 for the first time in History!

Who would have thought that a fox news parrot can't even report propaganda king fox news correctly or double check what he thinks he heard before reporting it.

 

[E-Promote]

President Trump reportedly told evangelical leaders at the White House on Monday that Republican losses in this year's midterms will lead to liberals "violently" overturning his administration's accomplishments for the Christian community..........."There's violence. When you look at Antifa and you look at some of these groups — these are violent people," he said..

Says the same guy that incited his cult following with such peaceful gems as:

• “knock the crap out of them … I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees.”
• (They) “should have been roughed up.” - when an activist was attacked at one of his rallies.
• "in the good old days" (they) "would've been socked in the face and carried out on a stretcher." - when a protester interrupted his rally.

How strange that he didn't include the far right and their violence yet mentioned Antifa.

 

[Kate]

It's the same man who said he would not necessarily accept the results of the presidential election in the event HRC defeated him. Sore loser.

 

[enlytend]

How strange that he didn't include the far right and their violence yet mentioned Antifa

Antifa is a ridiculously minuscule percentage of left leaning voters. But they look scary, sooooo...

Stoking fear and inciting violence is one of his favorite strategies with his rally crowds, apparently trying it out on his prayer buddies too. VERY Christian of him,

 

[enlytend]

Mollie Tibbets was a hardcore Liberal according to her tweets...

The same policies she supported, ended up getting her killed.

Wrong.
This wasn't an immigrant issue. It was a violence towards women issue. She was out running, self-entitled dude saw something he liked, she said no, he didn't take no for an answer. Happens all over, happens far too often, and whether he was legal or not is in this case irrellevant. There are far too many "woman out jogging disappears / killed / raped" stories regardless of who the perpetrator is..
"Liberals" (and conservatives who still have a shred of decency) are very much in favor of anything that would reduce this type of violence and harrassment towards women.
Respect her family's wishes: stop politicizing this and let the poor girl RIP.

 

[GILSAN]

‘Concerned Catholics’ Group Petitions Archbishop to Remove LGBT-Activist Priests from Ministry

A group of Catholics in Atlanta, Georgia, has launched a petition demanding that Archbishop Wilton Gregory “remove priests who promote the LGBT agenda from public ministry,” and who continue what many priests and bishops say is a “homosexual culture” within the Church that is at the root of the lies and cover-up of the sexual abuse scandal.

Concerned Catholics of Atlanta’s petition at change.org invites signers to also demand Gregory “stop supporting parishes who openly endorse LGBT lifestyles, activities and behaviors that are contrary to Church teaching, and to stop ‘looking the other way’ from evil in our Archdiocese.”
https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...o-remove-lgbt-activist-priests-from-ministry/

 

[GILSAN]