The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

He does.

So you do for supporting the Clinton Crime Family

 

[JB Lions]

So you do for supporting the Clinton Crime Family

That makes no sense.

Doesn't matter how you dress, you don't touch, grab, assault, rape etc. Across the board. Gilsan disagreed with that in the past.

 

[mr-x]

That makes no sense.

If you have a problem with lechery, then don't vote for Clinton or Trump. They're a package deal. Hillary has been defending Bill for DECADES.

Write Scott Walker's name down.

 

[mr-x]

Fear. Whether of retribution, career damage or whatever..

I apologize for being so blunt / mean about this. I hate both candidates. I find few redeeming qualities in either of them.

I'm voting for Trump b/c I think he'll be less bad then Hillary.

 

[GILSAN]

If Trump wins, half the MSM journalists who have been working overtime to put Hillary in the White House, will probably commit suicide. The other half may end up in a mental institution.

 

[GILSAN]

 

[mr-x]

What I hate most about this election, the media ignored, minimized really good candidates like Scott Walker and promoted Trump.

Roger Ailes is Trump's close friend. Murdock is Hillary's close friend. Emails prove Hillary wanted to compete against Trump.

I don't think it's a coincidence CNN, FOX, MSNB, ABC, CBS, NBC all fawned over Trump in the primary.

 

[GILSAN]

What I hate most about this election, the media ignored, minimized really good candidates like Scott Walker and promoted Trump.

Roger Ailes is Trump's close friend. Murdock is Hillary's close friend. Emails prove Hillary wanted to compete against Trump.

I don't think it's a coincidence CNN, FOX, MSNB, ABC, CBS, NBC all fawned over Trump in the primary.

Because Trump came out of the gate with some really controversial stuff like:
The wall,
Mexican and illegal immigration,
Talking about making better deals with other countries,
Islamic Terrorism and stopping Muslim immigration,
Funding his own campaign, while others were totally dependent on others,
Not afraid to bash the Media,
Being Politically Incorrect,
Accepting tons of interviews with every media outlet, while other candidates refused interviews.
Also... the Media wrongly thought that Trump would be the ideal candidate to run against Hillary possibly because he was the weakest in their opinion.

What the Media fails to realize is that they are regarded as untrustworthy and highly biased by a vast majority of the population. They still play a powerful role in electing Democrats, only because half the population has been brainwashed by them and Liberal policies in schools and colleges.

Today's MSM can go to Hell and stay there forever. They bring nothing good to humanity.

All these things are important to a very high % of the population, who, just like me, hate PC politicians or people. Trump may not be a good speaker, but he's good in business, in making deals and being really tough, which is bound to bring back a lot of respect and fear of the USA, especially from Islamic terrorist groups.

Once he's in the Oval Office, the US will regain its respect, just like Reagan on his first day in office got the news that the Americans hostages in Iran were released. They were released because Reagan was talking tough and was NOT gonna take any more sh*t from the Ayatollahs.

Trump... build that Wall and make it really tall

 

[mr-x]

I hate comparisons to Ronald Raegan.

Trump is a crass, opportunistic, ego manic. Reagan was a top class guy who cared about other people even if they didn't like him.

I don't know if Trump is better then Hillary. I do know Obama has corrupted or ignored corruption in the DOJ, IRS, EPA, and VA. I expect Hillary will continue, possibly even be worse.

I hope Trump will be better.

Liberal hate and intolerance has gotten out of control. Professors are being suspended for have the wrong thoughts, opinions by "diversity panels".. RUN BY OTHER PROFESSORS!

Sorry for the rant. If Trump can put a stake in the heart of PC culture, awesome. I'd never hold him up as an example of how I'd allow my Sons or Grandsons to behave.

 

[GILSAN]

I hate comparisons to Ronald Raegan.

Trump is a crass, opportunistic, ego manic. Reagan was a top class guy who cared about other people even if they didn't like him.

I don't know if Trump is better then Hillary. I do know Obama has corrupted or ignored corruption in the DOJ, IRS, EPA, and VA. I expect Hillary will continue, possibly even be worse.

I hope Trump will be better.

Liberal hate and intolerance has gotten out of control. Professors are being suspended for have the wrong thoughts, opinions by "diversity panels".. RUN BY OTHER PROFESSORS!

Sorry for the rant. If Trump can put a stake in the heart of PC culture, awesome. I'd never hold him up as an example of how I'd allow my Sons or Grandsons to behave.

The only comparison to Reagan is about being tough in order for US to regain respect, especially from Islamic terrorism. Their personalities are totally different.

Reagan's world was vastly different to today's. Many of the issues are new and cannot be compared.

If and once Trump is elected, his posture is bound to change. He, like all US Presidents will be surrounded by advisers and speech writers, to make his job easier. He's already getting better at reading from teleprompters, though not as good as Obama and Hillary.

He will never be as good a Golf player as Obama, because he seems to be a workaholic, unlike Obama, who is cruising through his lazy Presidency without doing much and without being criticized by the MSM.

Look at the amount of rallies and interviews Trump has done in the past 18 months or so. It's really quite staggering the difference with what Hillary has done. I'm even willing to bet he has done a lot more that Obama did. That shows that Trump is a hard worker when compared to the lazy Obama and Hillary.

He has so much spare time that he 's been campaigning for Hillary for the past 2 months or more, which comes to prove that the US government can run perfectly well without Obama, so he really doesn't need to go back to Washington. He'll make no difference there.

 

[GILSAN]

PA STATE POLICE RAID Democrat Group For Evidence Of Voter Fraud
Wow! Pennsylvania state police have raided Democrat-linked group FieldWorks looking for evidence of voter fraud.

Here’s an ad FieldWorks put on their Facebook page:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ice-raid-democrat-group-evidence-voter-fraud/

They’re under investigation.

 

[GILSAN]

Beware of the George Soros voting machines. From Wiki release #23. Pretty Scary.

 

[JB Lions]

Beware of the George Soros voting machines. From Wiki release #23. Pretty Scary.

There are no George Soros voting machines for this election. Your ignorance is pretty scary. But like Trump said, he loves "the poorly educated".

Plus, it's fake
http://ijr.com/2016/11/725453-hilla...desta-emails-expose-darker-side-of-the-media/

I wonder how much fake stuff Gilsan has posted this election?

 

[eyedomainous]

^ Virtually everything I checked that Gilsan posts was false, or promoted a falsehood. Like most hate-fueled propagandist, the absence of truth drives the need to repeat the falsehood until they themselves believe it.
He came to mind while reading this, earlier today:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20161026-how-liars-create-the-illusion-of-truth

His most often repeated 'liberal media' lie is a good example. "Mainstream media" is corporate commercial media. Anybody who thinks corporate media is liberal media must be watching with their head up their ass.

Think of the most popular 'Liberal Groups', now count how many have TV programs on commercial media?
Now, put that number against the programs backed by conservative corps like the Koch Bros, DOW, etc.

Get a clue:
Mainstream media is conservative corporate media.
The 'Liberal Media' created the Indie film, TV & books market because mainstream media is conservative...

As far as 'Political Correctness':
I think conservatives have forgotten, the liberal policy & practice of 'political correctness' is a tolerance tool designed to protect those, in a multicultural society, with the most political crimes against other groups.

As it is now, the politically correct thing to do when a racist attacks another group, is to forgive & educate.
Replace that with "stand your ground" at your own peril.

 

[Domainace]

^ Virtually everything I checked that Gilsan posts was false, or promoted a falsehood.

How often do you check the posts you agree with for veracity?

 

[MackieMesser]

I think most Americans know the difference.
After all, Adolf Hitler was a socialist (National Socialist Party) who hated communists.
And obviously, he didn't make life in Europe better.
What you fail to understand is that governments are a threat to their people.
And socialism gives governments the tools to oppress their people,
using the pretense that they are helping them.
And the socialist safety net seems to kill any entrepreneur spirit.
Where is Europe's Microsoft, Intel, Apple or Google?
I really don't think that we need your advice.

The party DAP (Deutsche ArbeiterparteI) was renamed 1920 to NSDAP (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) to attract more people from the "left" and the "right". Hitler was rather a fascist.

Also socialism and communism are not exactly the same although they have common features and sometimes appear to be one and the same thing or partly are. Here is a good article on that (in German):

http://www.zeit.de/1949/14/sozialismus-und-kommunismus

Also I can strongly recommend to read Karl Marx' books. It is good to understand where this idea came from and under which circumstances it evolved. Marx is very theoretical and can be difficult to understand (especially the original texts in German), but it is worth to give it a try.

 

[MackieMesser]

What I hate most about this election, the media ignored, minimized really good candidates like Scott Walker and promoted Trump.

Roger Ailes is Trump's close friend. Murdock is Hillary's close friend. Emails prove Hillary wanted to compete against Trump.

I don't think it's a coincidence CNN, FOX, MSNB, ABC, CBS, NBC all fawned over Trump in the primary.

From a non-American point of view it seems for me a bit scary that a "democratic" election de-facto only has two parties to choose, although there are actually other candidates. But the whole election and all around it seems to focus on the two big ones. Real democracy lives from plurality, many different voices.

Probably democracy can be nowhere perfect as long as the lifeforms (here: humans) exercising democracy or trying to do so are imperfect and mostly driven by egoistic motives.

 

[eyedomainous]

^^ Of course most of the stuff I agree with conforms to my learned opinions so no need to check.

 

[enlytend]

This stat has been proven false, a lie pushed by feminist and sjw

LOL - Don't try to "mansplain" to me!

I'm talking from my own experience and that of my girlfriends and acquaintances. Most of us are upper middle class, college educated professionals, and not "dressing like whores", thank you (not that it should matter) Whoever "proved" that wrong I suggest their methods were seriously flawed.

Guess what? If someone works in the adult industry that doesn't make them fair game for a sexual assault either. What they do in their work is consensual and legal.

If you don't get it, you don't get it.

Try to focus. We're not taking about Bill or Hillary, we're talking about Donald and you never answered my questions. Not a one of them. Typical of both trump (read the debate transcripts,) and his supporters. Ask a question, all you get is an ad hominem attack or some canned response. Boring.

Let's try an easy one. Someone asks if they can call your daughter a "piece of ass" on a public broadcast with you.
Your answer is:
1) Dude, no -that's just wrong.
2) Over my dead body (reaching for weapon)
3) Sure!

If your answer was 3, what would it have been 5 years ago? Honestly?

Maybe the reason trump supporters answer questions like this with other questions, personal attacks or deflections to his opponent is that they're conflicted between what they used to believe and what they need to believe to support him.

Let's say you're a Christian supporter. He has by his own word attempted to cheat on his pregnant wife by seducing another mans wife. That's 2 of the 10 commandments down the tubes right there. Not paying the agreed amount to people who did work for him - I would call that stealing, that's #3. Lie after lie -oops, #4.

Again we're not discussing anyone else. My question is how can you justify him being what you stand for?

 

[N-A]

Let's say you're a Christian supporter. He has by his own word attempted to cheat on his pregnant wife by seducing another mans wife. That's 2 of the 10 commandments down the tubes right there. Not paying the agreed amount to people who did work for him - I would call that stealing, that's #3. Lie after lie -oops, #4.

We're electing a President, not a Pope.

Neither candidates are good. But, a vote for an independent is a vote for Hillary... and that's not something I'm willing to do. Even though my state is so left-sided it probably won't count, it still counts to me.