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The USA Political Thread

Located in The Break Room, started by lennco, Jul 20, 2012

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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

  1. Both Parties

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    45.0%
  2. Neither Party

    47 votes
    9.3%
  3. Democrats

    102 votes
    20.2%
  4. Republicans

    128 votes
    25.4%
Total: 504 vote(s)
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    Some of your statements are highly dubious.

    There are several ways to acquire guns, in "private sales" or trades without a background check in many states.

    Surely, you support universal background checks. There is no reason a gun buyer should not need to have a background check anytime there is a transaction.

    As far as voter ID laws, I don't have much problem with that. I have a problem will all the other bullshit that is in response to lies on voter fraud.

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    CNN finally told the truth for once. Even if by mistake.

     
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    Democrats spent more time talking about a young white teenager who smiled at a man harassing him than two black teenagers who killed a man while hijacking his car.

    Democrats spent a year encouraging riots across the country which cost $2 billion in damages and destroyed thousands of small businesses.

    Democrat states hare handling the virus worse than republican run states.

    Democrats are the actual party of Jim Crow.

    Democrats think it's easier to buy a gun than to vote.

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    Bullshit. You're just repeating talking points. Federal law prevents selling a gun to someone not allowed to own one.

    No I don't. Criminals don't buy legal guns. Most notable / mass shootings are done with guns purchased with a background check.

     
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    A federal requirement is highly unlikely to happen.

    Still, you can be assured the vast majority of travel companies from airlines, to hotels, to cruises, etc. are going to require some proof of vaccination, as are foreign countries.

    As long as you stay in Texas and don't plan on traveling you should be all set. The second you want to do business with a private business they can have any requirements they want.

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    There are multiple states where "private sales" don't require background checks. How can you know someone is not allowed to own a gun without a background check genius?

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    Joe Biden is __________

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    Joe Biden is....President. More popular than Trump ever was.
     
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    Federal law. Private sales don't require background checks but it is illegal to sell a gun to someone you don't know is eligible to own it.

    Also, please explain how "universal background checks" would prevent crime.
     
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    How would preventing people who are maybe mentally ill from being able to acquire guns, prevent crime. Gee, I wonder.

    Some common sense is lacking.

    Universal background checks have 80%+ support in almost every poll. Hardly any policy has that level of support.

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    democrats are racist bigots

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    The "gun show loophole" still exists.

    The “gun show loophole” refers to the fact that most states do not require background checks for firearms sold or traded at gun shows by private individuals. Federal law requires background checks on guns sold by federally licensed dealers only.

    The federal Gun Control Act of 1968 defined “private sellers” as anyone who sold fewer than four firearms during any 12-month period. However, the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act deleted that restriction and loosely defined private sellers as individuals who do not rely on gun sales as the principal way of obtaining their livelihood. Proponents of unregulated gun show sales say that there is no gun show loophole—gun owners are simply selling or trading guns at the shows as they would at their residences.

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    Well.... if your brother or friend has purchased a gun in the past, still has a gun and you want to trade or sell him a gun then...

    Seriously; you act like the lack of background checks are a national crisis, it is not. Just more democrat propaganda used to distract.

    Do you think the gangs in Chicago are passing background checks when they buy guns?

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/07/the-chicago-gun-myth/
    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...0200805-lk4r5syalzbavemnvwvvmbtoly-story.html

    At lease Pres. Trump directed federal prosecutors to actually prosecute criminals who posses or used guns .

    How does a background check prove mental fitness? When has a background check stopped a suicidal person from buying a gun?

    You're grasping at straws to avoid the though question.

    ** P.S. I'm not against background checks or requiring online purchases to be brokered by a gun store. Universal background checks would fix nothing.
     
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    Yet another one of your caricatures. O_o

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    One has to understand history in order not to repeat the mistakes of the past. Conservative living in the past. The past cannot change the present, other than to learn from it and look to the future.
     
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    When you can't tell the truth, mock people.

     
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    This is a spin. There is no gunshow loophole.

    What does exist, however, is a federal exemption for sales between two private, non-FFL residents of the same state, regardless of whether that transaction happens at a gun show or not.

    I challenge you to find one example of anyone buying a gun at a gun show without a background check.

    Myth 1) The ‘Gun Show Loophole’ Allows Anyone, Even Criminals, To Get Guns


    In reality, the so-called “gun show loophole” is a myth. It does not exist. There is no loophole in federal law that specifically exempts gun show transactions from any other laws normally applied to gun sales. Not one.

    If you purchase a firearm from a federal firearms licensee (FFL) regardless of the location of the transaction — a gun store, a gun show, a gun dealer’s car trunk, etc. — that FFL must confirm that you are legally allowed to purchase that gun. That means the FFL must either run a background check on you via the federal NICS database, or confirm that you have passed a background check by examining your state-issued concealed carry permit or your government-issued purchase permit. There are zero exceptions to this federal requirement.

    If an individual purchases a gun across state lines — from an individual or FFL which resides in a different state than the buyer — the buyer must undergo a background check, and the sale must be processed by an FFL in the buyer’s home state.




    What does exist, however, is a federal exemption for sales between two private, non-FFL residents of the same state, regardless of whether that transaction happens at a gun show or not. The identity of the parties involved in the transaction, not the venue of the sale, is what matters under federal law. This federal exemption makes perfect sense: there’s no federal nexus for a purely private transaction between two private individuals who reside in the same state. Many states, including Oregon, Colorado, and Illinois, have enacted universal background checks in order to eliminate the exemption for same-state private firearms transactions.

    Federal universal background checks may or may not be a wise idea — the U.S. Senate in 2013 explicitly refused to enact them — but referring to the federal exemption for private, same-state sales as a “gun show loophole” is misleading and factually inaccurate.

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    I can guarantee you, libs repeating the "gun show loophole" lie have never been to a gun show or tried to buy a gun at one.
     
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    Liberals like to exempt themselves from human nature while calling other people racist, nationalist, etc. to make themselves feel virtuous.

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    True but false from snopes...

    It is true that after participating in a Jan. 24 briefing on Capitol Hill (when only a small handful of COVID-19 coronavirus disease cases had been reported in the U.S.), Fauci said both he and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) director Robert Redfield told senators that imposing travel restrictions was “not a good idea at this time”

    From fox...

    Fauci himself said he was against the travel ban on China following a meeting with senators on Capitol Hill on Jan. 24, 2020.
     
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