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The USA Political Thread

Located in The Break Room, started by lennco, Jul 20, 2012

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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

  1. Both Parties

    226 votes
    45.1%
  2. Neither Party

    47 votes
    9.4%
  3. Democrats

    101 votes
    20.2%
  4. Republicans

    127 votes
    25.3%
Total: 501 vote(s)
  1. bmugford

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    I don't think that is appropriate at all. I am not defending that.
    It is just whataboutism though.

    Trump used Twitter to spread lies and misinformation which culminated in the violent storming of the capitol which he incited, where people actually died.

    If anything world leaders should have more responsibility, not less responsibility for their actions.

    And at the end of the day, "fair" or not, it is a private companies prerogative. I am not defending their decision, just their right to do it.

    Brad
     
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  2. .X.

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    You would think that Trump being gone now would cool the masses that have been destroying our cities in our country for a year now ... well it hasn’t cooled them down... they are now opposing President Biden and his cabinet only the first week the president is in office ... @GILSAN or @lennco .. @Mr X .. @bmugford if either of you could do me a favor and go to CNN and C&P an article that says “Here is why protesters are saying they are gathering in Portland “” I would greatly appreciate it...

    although we disagree on politics of the Right and Left ... I do not think we ALL disagree that it is ok for these Antifa people nor AnyOne Else to burn down and continue to commit anarchy in our countries cities ...

    This has to stop ... and stop now ... and WE as Americans United under this specific cause need to voice to the necessary authorities that this not Ok ..
     
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    You can't please everyone.

    I am not even sure what they are protesting for at the moment exactly. They should let Biden have a chance first.

    If they are committing criminal activity then they should be arrested and charged for the crimes. I was reading earlier today (4) already had been.

    Brad
     
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    Joe Biden has been president for 24 hours and everything is not fixed yet? Those are some pretty unreasonable expectations.

    The administration now will at least acknowledge there is a problem with the justice system, and not just repeat "Law and Order" like a parrot.

    Go ahead and make a statement, without the violence.


    Protesters again took to the streets of Portland, Oregon, on Thursday -- the first full day of Joe Biden's presidency -- to let the Democratic establishment know they are still fighting for racial justice, some told CNN.

    "We wanted to symbolize that both parties are the oppressor," said a 25-year-old protester who wished not to be identified, fearing government reprisal. "We've all experienced firsthand that police violence is police violence regardless (of which political party holds power). ... It doesn't make a difference to the person being beaten."

    "For White people, maybe they feel there's time to let the administration work, but for Black and Indigenous people who have had a rope around their neck, there is no time," the protester said. "There's no justice, so there is no peace."
     
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    the police are obviously standing down as they did all summer long ... this most likely to preserve their jobs and lively hood IMO

    we need to lay our political differences right now and fully unite on this effort ...we all love our country or we would not sit in here debate and fuss with another ... our country is continuing to take structural damage and businesses and lives are being affected ... these are in no way peaceful protests .. they are destroying OUR infrastructure and hurting OUR people ...
     
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    Brad this can not continue... we couldn’t do what we can do now under President Trump ... President Biden is being attacked personally .. our country is being attacked by Marxist - communist thugs now .. this is OUR country ... OUR well being ... OUR family’s well being ..... OUR businesses well being ..
     
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    Yeah, like I said above if they are committing crimes they need to be arrested and charged.

    Brad
     
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    I have fully lost my tolerance with these people ... so help me GOD ... if I have to go to Portland Oregon and bring a posse with me .... those mother fuckers umbrellas and fireworks will be worthless to them ... Anti Americans of Antifa nor any other Anti American group will tear my country down limb by limb ...
     
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    I called the Portland Police Bureau just now ... I spoke with a female lieutenant...
     
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    I don't support the violence. It is not going to accomplish anything.

    When there was Antifa/BLM violence there were also agitators in the mix from the boogaloo boys to proud boys to vigilantes like Kyle Rittenhouse.

    The police are in a tough situation between enforcing the law and de-escalating the situation. I recognize that.

    The police also don't have completely clean hands though. Some of this is of their own making, after years of a complete lack of accountability for bad actors.

    While issues of police brutality and unnecessary force certainly do exist, they are not the norm.

    But when they do happen however the officers who abused the public trust are rarely held accountable. They use every trick from biased prosecutors to police unions to make sure of that.

    If you have 1 bad apple and 99 good apples who cover for that 1. You have 100 bad apples.

    There is racism at play here as well. A good example is when George Floyd was murdered, people instantly jumped to his criminal record which was irrelevant to the current situation.

    Why is it when someone like Ashli Babbitt was shot and killed, even while committing a crime, her past criminal history was rarely brought up? It was not relevant, neither was George Floyd's.

    Brad
     
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    i fully understand what you are saying and I agree ... as we have agreed on these issues before .

    Antifa and these people committing these crimes are not doing so for the Black Lives Matter cause .... they are doing this out of hate for our country ... Brad ... I have been watching live streams of the people do this all summer and into the winter .... these are predominantly White .Antifa .... very very few Black people ..maybe 2% Black ... although they will chant BLM for about 5 minutes out of whole night ... they chant Anti US government themes and say fucking abbra kaddabra after a speaker wishes bad things on our country .... and that is the honest God truth ... I am in now way exaggerating the Wicca and witchcraft shit ... which has nothing to do with why they chant Anti America themes ... but I am just including all their activities that I see them do every night while I watch them live feed do it
     
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    I don't support the violence. I don't really understand how property destruction and violence is going to accomplish anything good. It also drowns out the actual message.

    As far as the Wicca shit goes, to each their own. It is not for me, but unless they are breaking the law it would be freedom of religion.

    Brad
     
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    The female Lieutenant of the Portland Police Bureau i spoke with is supposed to text me .. apparently she wants log of conversation ...
     
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    Logs of what conversation?

    Brad
     
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    of what we say to each other ... she was very brief with me on the phone .. it was not a recorded line on her end when I called .. because if it is a recorded line .. by line it or the person has to say it is

    this uncharted waters for me ... I don’t deal with the police 99% of the time ... they are dealing with me when we make contact..
     
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    I guess I am confused what is going on.

    Brad
     
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    Why would she text random dudes from Texas? How did you get her number? You called her to talk about what? I’m sure reporters would love such contact. You’re not making up stories again are you?
     
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    I called Portland PB to speak with them concerning people burning .. spray painting and tearing down my countries infrastructure... I don’t pay taxes in Portland of course .. but that land and the innocent citizens and business owners are my fellow Americans ... I want the anarchy to stop ... now
     
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    Yeah, I get it. Though I am confused what "log of conversation" means.

    Are you having conversations with Antifa in Portland who are breaking laws?

    Brad
     
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    I would put a class in good old fashioned "Common Sense" on top of the list...
     
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    no ... I am not lying about lying JB ... I looked up the number to the Portland Police B .. Portland Oregon division ... I called the number ... I asked to speak to a cop ... I was directed to a female who said she was lieutenant???? I won’t use her name ... I spoke very briefly to her with my concern ... she requested my phone number .. and said she will text me as soon as possible .. that she was with someone
     
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    In all fairness, my ass is not only better looking than you, it's smarter too.
     
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    An Alternative History of President Biden’s First Days in Office

    Biden, 78, delivered a relatively short, reasonably coherent inaugural address in front of a sparse crowd of supporters and thousands of National Guard troops mobilized in an overzealous display of military force. Partisan media outlets hailed the speech as one of the greatest rhetorical achievements in the history of politics and described Biden's inauguration as "a majestic day" and "the dawn of a new era."

    Biden, who at one point likened himself—without evidence—to Abraham Lincoln, declined to address the still-unresolved claim of sexual assault by former staffer Tara Reade and did not discuss the federal government's ongoing investigation of his son, Hunter Biden, who is suspected of laundering money and committing tax fraud related to his questionable business ventures in China and Ukraine.

    https://freebeacon.com/satire/an-alternative-history-of-president-bidens-first-days-in-office/
     
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    The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people wrongly overestimate their knowledge or ability in a specific area. This tends to occur because a lack of self-awareness prevents them from accurately assessing their own skills.
     
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