The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[DaveX]

Nothing about Donald Trump is "American". Donald Trump is a miserable liar that will say whatever necessary to get what he wants. For Donald, it's not about country, it's about conquer.

How many lawsuits, how many frauds, how many wild statements, how many failed businesses, how many lies, how many unpaid bills will it take for people to walk away from someone. A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for those bad things. Does Donald Trump have to rip you off personally to piss you off?

If you are a seclusionist , if you like a person with little class, if you like a person that yells and screams like a dictator, if you truely want things to "return" to a past of oppression and unequal treatment for everyone, then he's your guy.

Forget videos and secret agendas, this should be an easy decision for any rational person given the radical, negative, egotistical, nuthouse that is Donald Trump.

 

[DaveX]

• JAMESTOWN is justifiably called "the first permanent English settlement" in the New World—a hard-won designation. As historian Alan Taylor recounts, of the first 104 colonists who landed in April 1607, only thirty-eight survived the winter. Of the 10,000 who left England for Jamestown in its first fifteen years, only twenty percent were still alive, and still in Jamestown, in 1622. The first months of the colony were chronicled by John Smith, Edward Wingfield, and in this selection by George Percy, who twice served as the colony's governor. After writing several accounts to justify his actions as governor, Percy left Jamestown for good in 1612. (John Smith, who also felt compelled to defend his leadership, had left for good in 1609.)
  [George Percy, Observations Gathered out of a Discourse of the Plantation of the Southern Colony in Virginia by the English, 1606, publ. 1608]

If Donald Trump had been an indian chief, we probably wouldn't be here.

 

[DaveX]

Donald Trump wants to return to the 1500s, with a type of feudal pyramid with the social/political/economic power structure of medieval society:

• At the top was the King who claimed ownership of all the land.
• Second were the nobles or landlords to whom the King granted land. Nobles swore to serve and protect the King.
• Third were the knights or vassals who were less powerful miliary men and to whom the King also granted land in exchange for fighting for the king in case of war.
• At the bottom were the peasants who were directly responsible to the noble and knights who owned the land.

 

[JB Lions]

I found that out a long time ago... that's why he's the only NP'er in my IGNORE List

One of the things I detest most in life is people who lie. So, a few things:

1. You actually screwed up a few months ago and quoted and replied to one of my posts, I think you realized who it was, edited it and put up one of those dumb memes.
2. You said I was on your ignore list when NP was using the previous forum software. With that, when you made a post, you could see who's reading it. I would make a post here, wait awhile, hit refresh and there you were reading it.
3. If you want to pretend to not read somebody's post, then don't click links in their sig as most sites have tracking/stats software.

I don't care how many pretty pics you post in the other thread, you've littered this one with anti-Muslim, anti-Gay stuff for awhile now, even repugnant stuff like blaming a woman which how she dresses on getting attacked. So I know you're reading this post as well.

Now for this:

Nate Silver WRONG

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2...nate_silver_is_wrong_again_about_donald_trump

Rush? Yes, it is a bad source.

What part of 99% accurate do people struggle with? Predicting 49/50 and 50/50 is accurate. We'll have more data after this 3rd Election he's predicting. The Rush piece had a bunch of quotes from 2015, a year ago. 16 or 17 in a Republican race isn't the same as Brexit, isn't the same as the sports predictions on the site etc. This is now a U.S. Presidential Election. With that, 99%. As I said earlier, use better sources. Rush and Breibert, aren't those.

 

[GoKaizen]

Check other news sources. Nate Silver was wrong 7 times about Trump.

 

[JB Lions]

Check other news sources. Nate Silver was wrong 7 times about Trump.

He's very accurate about U.S. Presidential Elections, did you even read my last post? Give me your best argument that predicting states/Electoral College:

2008 - 49/50
2012 - 50/50

isn't accurate

 

[JB Lions]

Just wanted to add about Rush. He said the same nonsense last election about Silver, before Silver went 50/50. He also correctly predicted 39/39 Senate races. You could do a simple Google search and see how wrong many were:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rush+limbaugh+2012+nate+silver&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

My favorite was watching Fox News on election night with Karl Rove not understanding stats, and they literally took him to the back room where the made the call for Ohio, known as the Karl Rove Meltdown

And for the Breitbart fans, which is basically a Trump site, they talk about some good sources, same ones I've talked about:

The Polls Were Right, We Were Wrong, and That's the Good News

"We were dead wrong about the polls.

Not only did the Real Clear Politics poll of polls end up being almost perfectly precise, but the most accurate pollster of the 2012 election cycle ended up being the Daily Kos’ Public Policy Polling (PPP). My guys, Gallup and Rasmussen, didn’t even make the top twenty."

Which is one of my main 3 sources that I've posted about many times - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2012/11/08/polls-right-we-wrong/

 

[johname]

Someone can be on a person's ignore list. But click "show ignore content" to see what that person typed on that page if it intermingles with other post (person still on ignore list) So being on someone's ignore list and replying to them is two different things.

 

[JB Lions]

Someone can be on a person's ignore list. But click "show ignore content" to see what that person typed on that page if it intermingles with other post (person still on ignore list) So being on someone's ignore list and replying to them is two different things.

Possible but see point 2 above and "So I know you're reading this post as well."

He still reads my posts. He just always struggled backing up his posts with me, so this is his out.

 

[johname]

I dont get the wall thing though, walls dont talk back lol

 

[JB Lions]

Just wanted to make a quick note of this just to see if they flip later this year but Breitbart using Nate Silver

Nate Silver: Trump Has 57 Percent Chance of Winning If Election Held Today

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/26/polls-converge-trump-happening/

That was a few days ago, it actually changed back to Clinton - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

Wonder if they'll use him as a source now, probably not. We'll see if they remember the lesson they learned last year on sources or go back to using Gallup and Rasmussen who didn't even make the top 20 as far as accuracy last time. Somebody earlier in the thread used Rasmussen, who picked Romney as the winner last time.

 

[DaveX]

As a voter I really would like to see Donald Trumps tax returns. I want to know what if any contributions he has made, if his businesses are reporting losses, and (with all the bragging) how much tax he pays on his millions.

In my opinion, the office of POTUS requires transparency.. His reluctance despite no law preventing the release, smells of dishonesty.

 

[GILSAN]

I Think My Dog's a Democrat... Bryan Lewis Official Video

 

[GILSAN]

Putin nails it... explains exactly who created ISIS and how...

 

[DaveX]

Putin nails it... explains exactly who created ISIS and how...

Great just what we need....another Putin believer.

 

[DaveX]

Just thinking about how Trump speaks makes me wonder how children and young people react to hearing the president say "I wanted to hit him. I wanted to hit him so hard his head would spin."

Trump would be an aweful role model. Imagine a world where everyone had that attitude.

Not my kind of talk.

 

[DaveX]

Riddle:

What does Donald Trump do under pressure?

 

[DaveX]

Answer:

Retweet!

 

[GILSAN]

Nice to see some people are having nightmares about Trump.

Can't wait for the Don to Build that Wall... and also to "hit Bloomberg so hard his head would spin"
That should be really to watch.

 

[GILSAN]

One thing's for sure... the "Wall" will create a lot of jobs and I wouldn't be surprised that most of these jobs would go to legal Mexicans.