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If you truly have a problem with lying, Trump is one of the biggest liars ever - http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

He lies so much, it's hard to keep track. Yesterday, he tweeted:

"A lot of call-ins about vote flipping at the voting booths in Texas. People are not happy. BIG lines. What is going on?"

Another lie

Texas Officials Refute 'Vote-Flipping' After Trump Tweet

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/texas-officials-refute-vote-flipping-trump-tweet-43115231
 
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If you truly have a problem with lying, Trump is one of the biggest liars ever - http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/

He lies so much, it's hard to keep track. Yesterday, he tweeted:

"A lot of call-ins about vote flipping at the voting booths in Texas. People are not happy. BIG lines. What is going on?"

Another lie

Texas Officials Refute 'Vote-Flipping' After Trump Tweet

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/texas-officials-refute-vote-flipping-trump-tweet-43115231

Trump simply tweeted what he has heard from other people. There are tons of people who have reported issues about voting problems. No lie there. In fact, there has been tons of proof that shows voter fraud, both from voting places and the Clinton campaign. News companies don't want you to see that, so they cover it up.

As for the ABC article, of course the officials would say that. The machines used in Texas are owned by a company that is connected to George Soros. If you don't know who he is, go do some research. Him and Clinton are best of buddies. The voting officials in Texas wants Clinton to win.

I'm not saying Trump is perfect, but to say he is a bigger liar then she is - is absurd.

I wouldn't go to ABC or CNN or any other mainstream media for news. It's pretty corrupt. When you go to a news station that bashes one candidate and only praises the other, something is wrong. News companies should show the positive and negative things on both candidates. A lot of the troubling news lately about Clinton's campaign should be all over the news, but it's kept quiet or instead of showing what it is, they try to flip the concern to how the results were discovered. For example; Veritas Project. Instead of looking at what was filmed, they want to make a big deal over how it was filmed. Silly.

Infowars does a pretty good job at showing the truth behind Clinton, but still lacks a bit on showing negative things about Trump. But they do a good job at countering the balance of what CNN does. The fact that the mainstream media is so corrupt, it makes sense to have a news source like infowars.

Either way, I'm not voting for anyone, but I think Trump is the better candidate of the choices at hand. Again, he's not perfect. I'm sure out of 300+ million people, they could be able to find a couple better candidates, but unfortunately, that's a choice that can't be made. Trump is the better option. Best of the worst.
 
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Trump simply tweeted what he has heard from other people. There are tons of people who have reported issues about voting problems. No lie there. In fact, there has been tons of proof that shows voter fraud, both from voting places and the Clinton campaign. News companies don't want you to see that, so they cover it up.

As for the ABC article, of course the officials would say that. The machines used in Texas are owned by a company that is connected to George Soros. If you don't know who he is, go do some research. Him and Clinton are best of buddies. The voting officials in Texas wants Clinton to win.

I'm not saying Trump is perfect, but to say he is a bigger liar then she is - is absurd.

I wouldn't go to ABC or CNN or any other mainstream media for news. It's pretty corrupt. When you go to a news station that bashes one candidate and only praises the other, something is wrong. News companies should show the positive and negative things on both candidates. A lot of the troubling news lately about Clinton's campaign should be all over the news, but it's kept quiet or instead of showing what it is, they try to flip the concern to how the results were discovered. For example; Veritas Project. Instead of looking at what was filmed, they want to make a big deal over how it was filmed. Silly.

Infowars does a pretty good job at showing the truth behind Clinton, but still lacks a bit on showing negative things about Trump. But they do a good job at countering the balance of what CNN does. The fact that the mainstream media is so corrupt, it makes sense to have a news source like infowars.

Either way, I'm not voting for anyone, but I think Trump is the better candidate of the choices at hand. Again, he's not perfect. I'm sure out of 300+ million people, they could be able to find a couple better candidates, but unfortunately, that's a choice that can't be made. Trump is the better option. Best of the worst.

It's not absurd to say he's a bigger liar, it's a well known fact. I literally just gave you a link, go check it out, tell me what they got wrong.

Trump simply tweeted what he heard, aka he doesn't verify stuff he tweets.

Voting is run locally, usually Republicans in charge, in this case - "Texas Secretary of State Carlos Cascos, a Republican, said on Facebook that there was no evidence of vote-flipping, a term generally used to describe a correctable technical glitch on older electronic voting machines."

Usually these cases are user errors, nothing more.

You don't want to go to CNN, ABC etc but Infowars (a known joke), Jones who says crazy stuff like - "While he explained that "natural tornadoes" do exist and that he's not sure if a government "weather weapon" was involved in the Oklahoma disaster, Jones warned nonetheless that the government "can create and steer groups of tornadoes."
 
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As for the ABC article, of course the officials would say that. The machines used in Texas are owned by a company that is connected to George Soros. If you don't know who he is, go do some research. Him and Clinton are best of buddies. The voting officials in Texas wants Clinton to win.

Also false.

"In fact, Soros does not have any ownership in the company he is alleged to control voting machines through, and the company’s voting machines are not even being used in the 2016 election."

http://mediamatters.org/research/20...ros-using-voting-machines-rig-election/214121

"The voting officials in Texas wants Clinton to win."

Those officials are mostly Republican. And Clinton doesn't have a chance in Texas, strong Red State - http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/texas/

Let's use logic. If you were to rig something, you would do with a state that's close, not something like Texas.

I have a problem with corruption.

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/

"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it." George Orwell

Most people do, it's not just with one party tho. Imagine if we could look at RNC emails, Trump emails etc, it would probably be a lot worse, considering what they are comfortable saying in public. Maybe Dems need better hackers.
 
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There's enough ACTUAL corruption in the democratic run Executive branch, people shouldn't have to make stuff up.

Stop reading Trump's re-tweets and alt-right memes and read the email dump the Media is ignoring.
 
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There's enough ACTUAL corruption in the democratic run Executive branch, people shouldn't have to make stuff up.

Stop reading Trump's re-tweets and alt-right memes and read the email dump the Media is ignoring.

Do you think if would could see a Republican dump, it would be much different? And most of what I've seen is Politics, people talking strategy etc. It's not pretty but it's pretty normal, for all parties.

And the media isn't ignoring it. I'm watching CNN right now and they're talking about it.

CNN not talking about it? - https://www.google.com/search?q=cnn+wikileaks&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

CNN

WikiLeaks reveals Hillary-world vexed by 'Bill Clinton Inc.'

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/27/politics/bill-clinton-inc-foundation-wikileaks-emails/

That media helped Trump get the Republican nod with all the free press they gave him. If you have a problem with what they're reporting, maybe talk to Trump. He's a gift that keeps on giving. He has no self control of the dumb stuff he says.
 
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"I am losing because the vote is rigged!"

"Oh wait, I won! Nevermind, vote wasn't rigged afterall!"

Trump (and his supporters) logic.
 
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Do you think if would could see a Republican dump, it would be much different?

Media attacked Romney b/c he dared to ask about Benghazi. The gave wall to wall negative coverage when and used the words "Binder" to describe a list of qualified women.

The "secret" video shot at his fund raiser was shot by a DNC lawyer.

Hell yes.

And the media isn't ignoring it. I'm watching CNN right now and they're talking about it.

They are and have been ignoring them. NYTimes, ABC, NBC, CBS. Hillary was disappointed the SB terrorist weren't white. They haven't been as critical, or covering her as they should.

Why? Because most journalist are corrupt progressives. Hillary should be in prison. If she was a Rep she would be.
 
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Media attacked Romney b/c he dared to ask about Benghazi. The gave wall to wall negative coverage when and used the words "Binder" to describe a list of qualified women.

The "secret" video shot at his fund raiser was shot by a DNC lawyer.

Hell yes.



They are and have been ignoring them. NYTimes, ABC, NBC, CBS. Hillary was disappointed the SB terrorist weren't white. Yes they not covering as they should.

Why? Because most journalist are corrupt progressives. Hillary should be in prison. If she was a Rep she would be.

I just gave you links to them (CNN) talking about Wikileaks and you go on like they're not. Let's try another, New York Times:

'We Need to Clean This Up': Clinton Aide's Newly Public Email Shows Concern
New York Times‎ - 3 days ago

WikiLeaks’ Gift to American Democracy
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/24/business/media/rutenberg-wikileaks-american-democracy.html?_r=0


https://www.google.com/search?q=nytimes+wikileaks&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

You can simply use Google yourself. All kinds of articles of New York Times talking about it.

And the press goes after everybody. Like we never heard of Bill Clinton and his issues, press never covered that?

Some of you are just repeating some of the whining Trump and some others on the right are saying, without actually taking a look for yourself.
 
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What do you think headline of the NYT and Washington Post would be if the Republican Candidate raised money for political campaign of the wife of FBI agent investigating her?

Or offered a bribe to FBI agents to reduce the classification of state secrets left on unsecured private email server?
 
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I have a problem with corruption.

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/

"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it." George Orwell
Excellent link you gave us about:
The Top 100 Most Damaging Wikileaks (so far)

If these Wikileaks had involved Trump, then you can bet the Liberal Media would have incriminating material to blast and destroy Trump for the next 100 years, non-stop.

Thankfully fewer and fewer people trust the MSM. In fact, at the moment only 6% trust them as can be seen from this latest report:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/04/18/poll-just-6-percent-people-say-trust-media/

40-50 years ago there used to be a noble job called journalism. Today they have mostly become "Media Whores" working for the propaganda machine of the Clinton's and the Democrats.

And what's amazing... they don't even hide this fact any more. They should all be dropped off by parachute in Aleppo and Mosul, without any cell phones or satellite connection. They don't deserve anyone's respect.
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This Bastard has already done so much damage in Europe. Now he's working hard on doing the same or worse in the US, through his puppets, Obama & Hillary.
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Excellent link you gave us about:
The Top 100 Most Damaging Wikileaks (so far)

If these Wikileaks had involved Trump, then you can bet the Liberal Media would have incriminating material to blast and destroy Trump for the next 100 years, non-stop.

Thankfully fewer and fewer people trust the MSM. In fact, at the moment only 6% trust them as can be seen from this latest report:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/04/18/poll-just-6-percent-people-say-trust-media/

40-50 years ago there used to be a noble job called journalism. Today they have mostly become "Media Whores" working for the propaganda machine of the Clinton's and the Democrats.

And what's amazing... they don't even hide this fact any more. They should all be dropped off by parachute in Aleppo and Mosul, without any cell phones or satellite connection. They don't deserve anyone's respect.
Clinton-Corruption-600x344.jpg
"Breitbart.com"

Stops reading.
 
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German Angst kicks in when people see breitbart
 
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What do you think headline of the NYT and Washington Post would be if the Republican Candidate raised money for political campaign of the wife of FBI agent investigating her?

Or offered a bribe to FBI agents to reduce the classification of state secrets left on unsecured private email server?

The headlines would probably be accurate in that nothing criminal occurred, let me help you with a couple of main points:

It was Terry McAuliffe, not Hillary Clinton.

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"his assertion that Clinton tried to influence a key investigator through donations to his wife are incorrect because her husband didn't become involved in the email probe until after her bid for office had already failed. There's also no indication that the timing and amount of McAuliffe's donations were anything but routine.

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics...ck-no-criminal-act-in-race-of-fbi-agents-wife

Then I'm not sure what this

Russian's my ass.

has to do with the article I linked too about Ukraine hackers hacking Russia.

Then you followed up with linking to something completed unrelated. Did you even read the article I linked too?
 
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What the Trump fans should be excited about is this:

"FBI reopens Clinton email server investigation"

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...ail-server-investigation-230454#ixzz4OOxe87Hr

She dropped 8 points in the last hour alone - https://electionbettingodds.com/

And guess what, it's all they're talking about in the news. See when you don't put yourself in the line of fire like Trump does all the time, they won't talk about you as much.

But Trump did say the FBI and Comey was rigged, until today, now they're doing a great job.

I just saw this posted:
1. Case not reopened.
2. Comey had to correct testimony.
3. Involves 3 emails whose classification must be determined.
4. None w/held by HRC.

Folks: FBI reviewed 30,000 emails. Found 3 more in unrelated investigation. Clinton didnt withhold them. Checking classification. That's it.

Tweets from this dude - https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald

So we'll see.
 
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