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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

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  • Both Parties

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    45.6%
  • Neither Party

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    8.7%
  • Democrats

    150 
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    22.4%
  • Republicans

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    23.3%
  • This poll is still running and the standings may change.

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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Thanks for the rambling stream of consciousness :).

I didnโ€™t ask that question to be contentious, I really would like to have an intelligent and respectful conversation on the subject. You seemed like a good bet.
Stop it Entylend! You're embarrassing me and making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside... blush, blush

Sorry about your relative /roommate. That must have been very difficult for you and your family.
Thanks.

I donโ€™t have time to address everything you mentioned right now, but hereโ€™s a short summary of what I heard in your reply. Feel free to clarify or correct if I missed something in the rambling:
Lol... I really need to work on my communication skills because it appears your take away isn't what I was trying to convey.

We canโ€™t prevent it, itโ€™s pointless to try.
Even if we could, the risk is too low to be worth the effort
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Not quite. I'm saying that I'm a realist and accept as fact that bad things are going to happen in life no matter what we do because there are and always will be bad people in the world intent on doing bad things to others. To think otherwise is fantasy. That's the way it has been since the beginning of man and will continue to be no matter how much more "civilized" we become.

The chances of bad things happening can be mitigated to varying degrees but it will always be based on a risk/reward or cost/benefit calculation whether done by us, the government, or the people that operate the places we go every day.

Again, if any of us civilians actually believed being shot was within the realm of realistic probability on any given day, why would we leave our house?!?!?


Weโ€™d all be safer if more people carried weapons and had concealed carry permits.
Generally I believe this to be true, but not because I think it will result in the bad guy being shot before they can do too much harm. I believe it acts as a strong deterrent. Will it stop every bad guy? No. But I believe most of bad guys and at least the mildly crazy do have an inherent sense of self preservation. Now those that are suicidal, maybe not so much...

Again, how many of the sensationalized mass shootings have taken place at locations where everyday citizens had the right to carry as they wished?

Some anger and defensiveness (no need to justify, just saying what I heard in your post.)
And off-topic, if we want to save lives we should focus our efforts on:
Keeping people from killing themselves (and occasionally others?) with tobacco and alcohol.
Requiring safer vehicles or a special permit to drive one not fitting the requirements
(I donโ€™t totally disagree with either point, but donโ€™t certain vehicles already have much higher insurance rates for that very reason? )
I don't think I'm angry about anything. Cynical yes, angry no.

I was trying to point out the hypocrisy of anti-gun people claiming it is all about saving lives when there are even greater causes of death that could be removed or changed.

Unfortunately these things -- despite their death tolls - won't be removed or changed because people (and the industries that make those products) feel their right to self-medicate or express their freedom and individuality is of greater importance than saving as many lives as possible.

Letโ€™s play a little RPG

Youโ€™re in a windowless conference room. Boss is pissed. If you want to keep your job (letโ€™s assume you do) the group needs to produce one or more sets of recommendations for allocating budget to address school shootings / mass shootings or youโ€™re all staying in that room for the foreseeable future. Ordering in Burger King or McD.? Hah - you wish! More like 6 day old cold cuts from the 7/11 next door.

The wall art is hideous, the chairs arenโ€™t comfy. Your phone has been confiscated. Thereโ€™s no way out.

You want to leave and have a life, and not die of listeria from convenience store bologna. What recommendations do you come up with?
Let me start by saying I absolutely LOVE the scenario you've presented/painted here. I can actually visualize the entire room and participants. Crap! Seems we're having problems with the ventilation in the room as well. It's going to be a long stay in this room...

I have no answer to your question because there is NO WAY to prevent ABSOLUTELY EVERY possible permutation of a bad guy with a weapon intent on destruction.

To even begin to approach that level of security, not only would it be cost prohibitive, but it would put a major strain on everyone involved along with the entire school's infrastructure.

The best you can do - and is what most schools seem to have done - is figure out the most likely scenarios and attempt to protect against those as best they can within the budget they were given, without creating too many points of possible conflict and without infringing on too many rights. (Pretty much what I was saying further up.)

Unfortunately the biggest weakness in any and every plan will likely be one or more of the humans that must execute it effectively in order for it to work. People get complacent. They put their own well being above others. They...

Marjorie Stone Douglas High School likely thought they had a pretty good plan in place. Unfortunately there wasn't just one weak link, they were many.

A gunman with an AR-15 fired the bullets, but a series of blunders, bad policies, sketchy training and poor leadership helped him succeed. "
http://projects.sun-sentinel.com/2018/sfl-parkland-school-shooting-critical-moments/#nt=oft09a-2gp1

(Ps. If I even thought I had a solution to school shootings I'd be screaming it at the top of my lungs! That's assuming it didn't trample on any of our Constitutional Rights.)
 
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Should not have apologized but confronted the lie of toxic masculinity.


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No one cares what she does. Mitch's staff made copies of the letter for her to distribute. These publicity stunts are fun but payback will be harsh.

Democrats Fall Short in Effort to Rebuke Administration on Russia Sanctions
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/us/politics/senate-trump-russia-sanctions.html

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I think AOC is playing chess with Republicans. She says some out there kind of stuff. You give her all this attention. She uses this attention to zap them back.

"Where's Mitch?" -Rep. Ocasio-Cortez
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1085705523243216896

Heโ€™s not in the cloak room
Heโ€™s not in the Capitol
Heโ€™s not in the Russel building
Heโ€™s not on the floor of the Senate
And 800,000 people still donโ€™t have their paychecks - so #WheresMitch?
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezโ€Verified account @AOC 4h4 hours ago


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Kristen Gillibrand Makes an Illegal Left Turn: โ€˜Yesโ€™ to Illegal Alien Drivers Licenses
 
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For 7th Consecutive Year, Visa Overstays Exceeded Illegal Border Crossings

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/6860...a-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings

"The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, visa overstayers accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegally."​

"It is clear from our research that persons who overstay their visas add to the US undocumented population at a higher rate than border crossers. This is not a blip, but a trend which has become the norm,"
The report: http://cmsny.org/publications/essay-2017-undocumented-and-overstays/

We do have an immigration problem, but it's not one we'll fix with a wall.
 
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1) Estimated because we don't know how many people cross the border illegally.

2) It doesn't mean we don't need a border security. It means we need ICE to enforce the law.

For 7th Consecutive Year, Visa Overstays Exceeded Illegal Border Crossings

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/6860...a-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings

"The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, visa overstayers accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegally."​

"It is clear from our research that persons who overstay their visas add to the US undocumented population at a higher rate than border crossers. This is not a blip, but a trend which has become the norm,"
The report: http://cmsny.org/publications/essay-2017-undocumented-and-overstays/

We do have an immigration problem, but it's not one we'll fix with a wall.
 
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Democrats don't want open borders.. they want no borders or enforcement.

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Bottom line, democrats care more about illegal immigrants than Americans.
 
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In the last 5 days #YumaSector #BorderPatrol has arrested people from 7 countries trying to illegally enter the U.S. #NationalSecurity #SouthwestBorder

China
Guatemala
Honduras
Mexico
El Salvador
Nicaragua
India

Awesome, nice to see our current border measures working.

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Jan 29 - State Of The Union Address
Feb 7 - Cohen public testimony

SOTU, Pelosi wanting to cancel that, Trump cancels her trip in retaliation

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โ€˜She wields the knifeโ€™: Pelosi moves to belittle and undercut Trump in shutdown fight
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...trump-in-shutdown-fight/ar-BBSlOIc?li=BBnb7Kz

She's a boss
Pelosi gets revenge against one of the Dem rebels
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...c-out-of-judiciary-slot/ar-BBSiMlQ?li=BBnb7Kz
 
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Rudy slowly walking it back, he knows what's coming

Rudy Giuliani says Trump didn't collude with Russia but can't say if campaign aides did

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/rudy-giuliani-cnntv/index.html


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Trump getting heated. Most blame him for this, problems are growing, economy being affected by this etc. In the next 3 weeks, we're supposed to have SOTU and his former personal lawyer will give testimony, live for everybody to see.

The Left has become totally unhinged. They no longer care what is Right for our Countrty!
Donald J. Trumpโ€Verified account @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

So funny to watch Schumer groveling. He called for the firing of bad cop James Comey many times - UNTIL I FIRED HIM!
Donald J. Trumpโ€Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago
 
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2) It doesn't mean we don't need a border security. It means we need ICE to enforce the law.
Speaking of which, are they even working or getting paid at the moment ?
 
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Cohen Hired IT Firm to Rig Early CNBC, Drudge Polls to Favor Trump
Behind the scenes, Michael Cohen hired RedFinch Solutions, then allegedly stiffed itโ€”and his boss

https://www.wsj.com/articles/poll-r...-one-it-firms-work-order-11547722801?mod=e2tw

"Trumpโ€™s former โ€œfixerโ€ Michael Cohen paid the head of a small technology company between $12,000 and $13,000 for activities related to Trumpโ€™s campaign, including โ€œtrying unsuccessfully to manipulate two online polls in Mr. Trumpโ€™s favor,โ€ The WSJ reports"
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Speaking of poll numbers, dropping:

Average of all polls:
Approve - 41.1
Disapprove - 55.7
-14.6 spread

Even the Rasmussen that he used to tweet about when it was at 50, 44 now.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
 
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No Euro vacation for Speaker Pelosi. Stay home and do your job!

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No Euro vacation for Speaker Pelosi. Stay home and do your job!

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Another brilliant move by Pelosi.

"UPDATE: A White House official tells @NBCNews Secretary Mnuchin will lead a delegation to Davos, as planned."

Trump's people will be taking a Euro vacation, nice optics.

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57% of voters will 'definitely vote against Trump' in 2020 election, poll says
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/po...ot-support-trump-election-20190117-story.html
 
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