The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[verbster]

Taking pride in a person's beheading is beyond horrendous. Making it into a social media event is beyond words.

 

[verbster]

California Solar Panels Burning Birds Up 1 Every 2 Minutes...

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/birds-igniting-california-solar/2014/08/19/id/589672/

I wonder how many birds a coal mine kills every 2 minutes. I wonder how many birds an oil field kills every two minutes.

Calling mirrors "solar panels" is a bit much don't you think?

I don't know about every two minutes, but over the course of a few days, the Exxon Valdez oil tanker spill killed hundreds of thousands of sea birds, not to mention all the other stuff the oil killed.

 

[DU]

But let me know when it's start killing humans, bad affect on the environment, shortening people's lives etc

And sooner or later the birds will smarten up, see what's happening to their buddies. It's how species progress.

I've read that we're losing species at 1,000 to 10,000 times the background rate. There are literally dozens going extinct every day.
31% of bird species in the country are of conservation concern.

Cormorants and Caspian terns in Portland on the Columbia river are decimating the Salmon runs.

You don't think that any of these things are a bad effect on the environment? That all that is needed is animals to "smarten up"?
So wild salmon should just find another place to breed other than the one that they have used for years and years and years?
Frogs and Amphibians should just stay out of peoples yards if they've used chemicals to keep the grass green.
If no one can resolve the bee collapse - are you going to pollinate a lot of the natural food sources?

The ultimate demise of humans will be their failure to allow other animals and creatures to rise to a level of value that they should be afforded. You can't just put everything in a compartment and assume that it will work out. We're in the greatest period of animal extinction since ... the dinosaurs if my totally liberal cap and trade (yawn) friends are to be believed.

What happens here is that insects like the light, they then attract birds. Depending on where this happens it could have catastrophic effects and these need to be considered and understood before BIGGER instances of the same thing are created elsewhere.

 

[RogueWriter]

"In 2008 the World Health Organization (WHO) and other organizations calculated that coal particulates pollution cause approximately one million deaths annually across the world[5] which is approximately one third of all premature deaths related to all air pollution sources."

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And sooner or later the birds will smarten up, see what's happening to their buddies. It's how species progress.

So, according to your theory, the coal industry is actually strengthening the human race by weeding out the weak and slow of mind, just like the solar fields are weeding out the stupid birds.

Ergo, liberals think coal is an excellent energy source since, in the long run, it raises the overall intellect and strength of society at large.

I obviously have underestimated how much thought liberals have put into this.

 

[Domainace]

"31% of bird species in the country are of conservation concern."

That would account for the paucity of posts supporting the US police state in this thread recently.

 

[RogueWriter]

What liberals think of justice...

Rosemary Lehmberg For President, 2016.
"Because Rules Were Made To Be Ignored"

 

[RogueWriter]

JB, tried to find a good domain for you, alas smartbirds.com is already taken.

 

[verbster]

So, according to your theory, the coal industry is actually strengthening the human race by weeding out the weak and slow of mind, just like the solar fields are weeding out the stupid birds.

Ergo, liberals think coal is an excellent energy source since, in the long run, it raises the overall intellect and strength of society at large.

I obviously have underestimated how much thought liberals have put into this.

So one person's comments (that you label liberal) about birds dying an unnatural death as survival of the fittest somehow transforms into your conclusion that all liberals support coal mining because it raises the overall intellect and strength of society at large, eh? You can do better than that.

 

[verbster]

What liberals think of justice...

Rosemary Lehmberg For President, 2016.
"Because Rules Were Made To Be Ignored"

Look who woke up sour this morning. Must have successfully tried to help some burning birds in your dreams last night and feel bad about stunting human evolutionary development or something this morning.

 

[verbster]

"31% of bird species in the country are of conservation concern."

That would account for the paucity of posts supporting the US police state in this thread recently.

Alliteration and faulty logic at the same time. Impressive.

 

[RogueWriter]

Look who woke up sour this morning. Must have successfully tried to help some burning birds in your dreams last night and feel bad about stunting human evolutionary development or something this morning.

Nope, just happy to find that liberals and conservatives can agree on something; the coal industry is good for humanity and strengthens the gene pool.

 

[RogueWriter]

The Onion should write an article, "Skin Cancer Rising At Alarming Rates Within California Bird Sunbathing Population"

 

[JB Lions]

So, according to your theory, the coal industry is actually strengthening the human race by weeding out the weak and slow of mind, just like the solar fields are weeding out the stupid birds.

Ergo, liberals think coal is an excellent energy source since, in the long run, it raises the overall intellect and strength of society at large.

I obviously have underestimated how much thought liberals have put into this.

Actually, the birds have a choice. As I said, they can take an alternate route. Can't really do much to escape atmospheric pollution. The smart birds are actually mapping the area out, as well as other hot spots. There is now an app available to them called Zap Me Not.

 

[Theo Goodman]

Let us concentrate on the USA and stop comparing the USA to other countries.

 

[Theo Goodman]

When I was reading your post, it reminded me of the movie with Will Smith, Enemy of The State, you even used the term in your post.

As far as militarizing our police, actually both sides of the aisle want less of it. Check the news.

As to why, there is a surplus, so they might as well use it. And I've never actually seen it in my life. Why? Because I'm not anywhere where a riot is about to bust out, or looting. I'm not in some situation where SWAT is coming.

This is really simple, they are being over-prepared because they don't want this to happen again:

"In total, 53 people were killed during the riots and over 2,000 people were injured."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

And that didn't happen because how the police were dressed or showed up. It was because people were mad and there are always some people looking to start it up.

So, I don't have a problem with police, in those type of situations being prepared.

And you can never know how it is in the U.S. by just watching videos on YouTube or reading about it. It would be silly for me to talk about Iceland to somebody that actually lives there on a day to day basis. Those are the people who really know how it is. You've seen what I posted above. I can have it set in my mind that Iceland, or Japan is this or that and post videos all day long backing that up. I could leave out all the good stuff. Of course I don't actually live there and if I ever posted I know how it is to live there, while living in another country, I should be called out on it.

Your post, goes along with a lot of your other posts in this thread. When it comes down to it, you're just paranoid. Look at the post I just quoted. You actually think the NSA doesn't have better things to do than worry about what some domainer in Iceland is saying on some domain forum?

I talked about fingerprints earlier and your fear of it. Had to go refresh my memory of what you said, and why you're scared to travel:

"For example I can easily get hold of your fingerprints or plant your DNA somewhere. I just need to collect some of your hair or saliva, or anything. You leave it on almost anything you touch. If your DNA is found on a crime scene how are you going to prove your innocence ?"

https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-nps-official-usa-political-thread.764342/page-70#post-4521312

Paranoid. It's interesting because when it comes to domaining, I probably agree with you 90%+ of the time, but then you have this paranoid side. I think you feed it by purposely looking for videos and articles about it. Look at domainace above. Went to YouTube, probably typed in United States Police State and found some videos to post in this thread. And again, I can do the same with any country. You really should get out and travel. Actually come to this country, you're not going to see armored cars riding around main street with police in riot gear. I linked earlier to what I typically see where I live.

Let me quote you again from the other page:

"Americans don't realize it yet, but their country has now become the battlefield, literally."

And you know that, sitting in Iceland? Not people that actually live here but you? Do you even realize how silly that is? So when I go downtown and see a police officer walking around in shorts = Battlefield?

In a nutshell, if you live in Japan, Iceland, Portugal, you're not qualified to know how it is to live in the U.S. or any other country you don't currently live in. I used to live in Germany back in the day, 12 years on and off but I'm not qualified to tell anybody how it is to live there now, especially to somebody that actually lives there now, like Theo. If I told Theo, Germany is this and that based on some videos or articles I read, he would probably laugh at me and rightfully so.

Missed this one - "This level of surveillance state is unprecedented, far worse than the Stasi."

My relatives on my mother's side that actually lived thru that would probably laugh at that as well. I'm not worried about my neighbors saying something to somebody and then getting round up and thrown in jail without any lawyer. Have you noticed a lot of the conspiracy theory types haven't moved? Why isn't Alex Jones living in some other country? Do you think the Stasi would have let him have a website, radio show, tv show etc. constantly going on about the government? Be real. They would make him disappear. Have you checked out a Conservative FB page lately? The things they say about the President. You think the Stasi would have let that fly? So when you compare to the Stasi, you're on some other planet with that.

Just because someone lives in country X does not lend or detract from there argument.
I am writing this while im in the USA, the thread is the USA thread and therefore I am more correct.

 

[Theo Goodman]

If the store owner acts in self defense and shoots the first dozen or so looters, they might prevent the looting, but then of course the local community will shun them for maiming/killing the looters. And, of course, the justice system will then prosecute the store owners rather than the surviving looters. Either way they pretty much lose their business for doing nothing wrong. But hey it's not about justice, it's about more free stuff for the generational welfare recipients.

No, this is in part about Judicial arbitrage. Chains like starbucks ect can take advantage of this while your ave. joe can not. Judicial arbitrage could be compared to "legal looting".
How do you know that any of the looters are welfare recipients?-that is speculation. How many of the companies that were looted get corporate welfare?The police is the occupying army of the state. It rules by threat of violence and coercion on a daily basis, not only during so called "riots".

 

[JB Lions]

Just because someone lives in country X does not lend or detract from there argument.

Actually it does. If somebody posted on this forum that they were moving to Atlanta and wanted to know how it is. Would somebody from Russia who visited 15 years ago or somebody that lives there now and has for the past 15 years, have more insight to that. Common sense stuff here.

So when there is somebody that lives in some other country, posting as if I'm seeing armored vehicles and police that look like military all over the place, they're going to be corrected. Because I'm actually here and see the truth.

"I am writing this while im in the USA"

While you're here, snap some pics of the police you see and post to the forum.

 

[Theo Goodman]

Actually it does. If somebody posted on this forum that they were moving to Atlanta and wanted to know how it is. Would somebody from Russia who visited 15 years ago or somebody that lives there now and has for the past 15 years, have more insight to that. Common sense stuff here.

no, common sense would show that someone that lives in Atlanta but only stays home and never goes out would have a totaly different experince than someone from Russia that visted Atlanta for one month but socialised much more. Common sense there. Also when people present arguments it is common sense and respectful to talk about there argument rather than their CV.

 

[JB Lions]

no, common sense would show that someone that lives in Atlanta but only stays home and never goes out would have a totaly different experince than someone from Russia that visted Atlanta for one month but socialised much more. Common sense there. Also when people present arguments it is common sense and respectful to talk about there argument rather than their CV.

You gave up trying to put up a good argument, haha. That was some stupid stuff you just posted.

So Theo, if somebody posted they were moving to Germany, I would know more about how Germany is now, living in Florida, than you, living in Germany? Maybe I could find some Nazi's terrorizing people in Germany videos and tell them to watch out, it's dangerous over there.

 

[DU]

So Theo, if somebody posted they were moving to Germany, I would know more about how Germany is now, living in Florida, than you, living in Germany? Maybe I could find some Nazi's terrorizing people in Germany videos and tell them to watch out, it's dangerous over there.

Can you please limit your discussion to the Orlando area - I think Florida is too diverse to be lumped into one category.