The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

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1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[JB Lions]

The article / source was accurate. It was my mistake, they were shot not stabbed. I transposed from another story I was reading.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36863/evil-palestinian-murders-israeli-mother-one-year-hank-berrien





Big shocker your playing about them. No one is supporting / justifying violence except you. But that's that's the game you play until you either have to admit the truth or eat another sh*t sandwich.

VIDEO: Israeli settler passes out candy to celebrate killing of Palestinian in Nablus
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=777145

Not sure even your point. There is violence in the Middle East? No kidding.

Trump supported it, "very fine people". Walking around with torches like the Klan.Talking about punching people at his rallies. Amping things up.

 

[mr-x]

Both are bad. Here is the actual picture from the article. One guy isn't much of a celebration.

VIDEO: Israeli settler passes out candy to celebrate killing of Palestinian in Nablus
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=777145

Not sure even your point. There is violence in the Middle East? No kidding.

Trump supported it, very good people. Walking around with torches like the Klan.Talking about punching people at his rallies. Amping things up.

 

[Kate]

Rich people, including every politician in D.C. have been using the tax code to avoid paying taxes since forever. Federal tax code is voluminous, as in rooms of books.

No, this is not what we are talking about, you know it.
Tax avoidance is one thing, tax evasion is another. The IRS is quite ruthless with ordinary people in America. But maybe this is what you want, one set of rules for the common people, and another for the untouchable (aka American siloviki). We are talking about staggering sums of money here. Guess why 45 doesn't want you to see his tax records ? Even the doctored version would be an embarrassment.
But there is hope, because you cannot fool all the people, all the time.

In the meanwhile, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has released a grim report.
Guess which country has withdrawn of Paris accords, is loosening up environmental protections, actively working against the environment, thus giving the rest of the world middle finger (and itself as well) ?

 

[JB Lions]

No, this is not what we are talking about, you know it.
Tax avoidance is one thing, tax evasion is another. The IRS is quite ruthless with ordinary people in America. But maybe this is what you want, one set of rules for the common people, and another for the untouchable (aka American siloviki). We are talking about staggering sums of money here. Guess why 45 doesn't want you to see his tax records ? Even the doctored version would be an embarrassment.
But there is hope, because you cannot fool all the people, all the time.

In the meanwhile, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has released a grim report.
Guess which country has withdrawn of Paris accords, is loosening up environmental protections, actively working against the environment, thus giving the rest of the world middle finger (and itself as well) ?

I'm just catching up with all the posts.

Yeah, this is tax fraud mr-x. It's illegal. You can watch the show I mentioned, read the thorough NYT piece. I touched on some of it yesterday:

They got sister's taxes, Fred's will, Trump companies, partnerships, trusts etc.
Trump family got $600 million from sale of Fred's buildings
200 separate streams from Fred to Trump
At age 3 Donald was getting $215,000
They would value a property at $13.6 million when it was really $244 million
1990's Fred had so much cash so they:
Set up All Counting Building, padding invoices to disguise cash gifts, no employees
Tax fraud, illegal
Trump lawyer sent letter they will sue for defamation

There is no defending that.

It's funny Trump's old tweet:
"Looking back on history, who was treated worse, Alfonse Capone, legendary mob boss, killer and "Public Enemy Number One," or Paul Manafort, political operative & Reagan/Dole darling," Trump wrote in a tweet.

When they finally got Al Capone on tax evasion, went to prison.

I imagine the tax evasion stuff he's been doing for decades doesn't suddenly stop. Why do you think he never released his taxes, that he called it a red line? Tax evasion, we'll find out he's been basically living off daddy's money his whole life, money laundering for the Russian mob etc.

 

[mr-x]

No, this is not what we are talking about, you know it.
Tax avoidance is one thing, tax evasion is another. The IRS is quite ruthless with ordinary people in America.

Yes they are. NYT has had this information for a year? Even if a rule was broken, it will be settled with a fine and back taxes.

But maybe this is what you want, one set of rules for the common people, and another for the untouchable (aka American siloviki). We are talking about staggering sums of money here.

That's a stretch. But we already have a them / us legal system, i.e. Hillary Clinton as SOS and her aids sending classified information through email and storing on a Anthony Wieners laptop.

Guess why 45 doesn't want you to see his tax records ? Even the doctored version would be an embarrassment.
But there is hope, because you cannot fool all the people, all the time.

Right. I think everyone was shocked to find out he wasn't really a self-made billionaire. He father gave him, his siblings millions.

Trump has been around a long time.. he didn't become a boorish bully in 2015.

In the meanwhile, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has released a grim report.
Guess which country has withdrawn of Paris accords, is loosening up environmental protections, actively working against the environment, thus giving the rest of the world middle finger (and itself as well) ?

Climate has always changed. Reasonable people can debate the cause / effect. Most climate alarmist like Al Gor are frauds. A lot of faked data, every prediction has been wrong. Hyperbole about weather events.

I'm much more worried about earthquakes.

 

[JB Lions]

Yes they are. NYT has had this information for a year? Even if a rule was broken, it will be settled with a fine and back taxes.

lol, my god. Read or watch the show. Rule was broken, haha. This one you're just completely off. Tax evasion is illegal, not sure what you fail to grasp. The old stuff, maybe statue of limitations, but he probably is still doing it.

shorter version of what's happening:
Inside the NYT investigation into Trump's questionable tax schemes

"The reporters began by looking at the 2005 tax return that leaked out in March 2017. They started with some simple questions about how Trump made money that year.

Craig said there wasn't a single moment when they realized they had a big story. She called the process a "real journey of discovery."

"One thing kind of led to another, and then we started to reach out to sources and got an extraordinary amount of documents," she said. She and her colleagues spent a year and a half going through the materials"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...uestionable-tax-schemes/ar-BBO41XI?li=BBnb7Kz

 

[JB Lions]

Did the Trump Family Historian Drop a Dime to the New York Times?
A first cousin of the president kept a trove of financial records that appears to have provided evidence for a major investigation of the Trump family business.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/07/trump-new-york-times-tax-evasion-221082

Trump’s father conserved his wealth and promoted the myth of his son as a self-made billionaire, the New York Times revealed the existence of a sham business the Trump family used to hide massive gifts from Fred Trump to his children, saving himself millions in federal taxes.

The company was called All County Building Supply & Maintenance and it was created in 1992 for the purpose of providing inflated invoices to contractors for Fred Trump’s sprawling real estate holdings in Brooklyn and Queens.

“All County had no corporate offices,” the Times reporters wrote. “Its address was the Manhasset, N.Y., home of John Walter, a favorite nephew of Fred Trump’s. Mr. Walter, who died in January at the age of 83, spent decades working for Fred Trump, primarily helping computerize his payroll and billing systems. He also was the unofficial keeper of Fred Trump’s personal and business papers, his basement crowded with boxes of old Trump financial records.”

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Al Capone evaded taxes but not the IRS

 

[JB Lions]

Here is the big piece, many details:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

This isn't pay a fine/back taxes type stuff, it's prison stuff.

This is one you should actually read. The NYT piece is a long read because it has details/documents and such.

 

[mr-x]

Portland Antifa attack senior citizen.

Mayors twitter feed is all about indigenous peoples day and the how badly CB Ford Fraud was treated.

 

[mr-x]

Here is the big piece, many details:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

This isn't pay a fine/back taxes type stuff, it's prison stuff.

This is one you should actually read. The NYT piece is a long read because it has details/documents and such.

It's weird no-other media are talking about it.

 

[JB Lions]

It's weird no-other media are talking about it.

You don't watch/read real media.

And they are
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...-says-ny-tax-department-reviewing-allegations

Trying to spin it:
https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-tax...-out-dodging-irs-fox-news-host-claims-1150074

Trump family's massive tax con job has been hiding in plain sight for years. And it could cost them millions.
The Trumps may soon wish they had sought their real estate fortunes anywhere except the liberal precincts of New York.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-family-s-massive-tax-con-job-has-been-hiding-ncna917146

They released it during all the Kavanaugh stuff, they should have waited. But it's not going away.

Your video above, they should arrest those people.

 

[mr-x]

I would think a President going to jail like Al Capone would be a bigger story. Maybe CPL and CNN will pick it up next week

 

[JB Lions]

I would think a President going to jail like Al Capone would be a bigger story. Maybe CPL and CNN will pick it up next week

CNN already has been reporting on it. And again, statue of limitations. We need to get his personal taxes first. We'll get that if the Dems win the House, subpoena the IRS for them. If he's still engaging in that type of stuff (likely) there could be problems. 2019 will be a very bad year for Trump.

You never answered this but why do you think looking at his personal taxes was a red line for him? In the past, he's on video saying he would release them. That was before he ran for President with a chance of winning. His kids too, this is a family thing, evading taxes.

I know it's a long read, but just this once, take a look. Well documented.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

 

[DNWon]

JB's got his pom-poms out again. This week's scandal du-jour that JB is eating up, and regurgitating all over this thread! The Trump Tax Fraud! You are so freakin silly.

Donald Trump has dozens of tax accountants and tax lawyers. I'd bet he hasn't ever seen one his tax returns other than the last page that he has to sign! He files his taxes with the IRS just like every body else that pays taxes in the U.S. He and his companies get audited almost every year, because it's such a huge company with so many subsidiaries!

Tax avoidance is practiced by almost every American I know and definitely by most companies!
(How much did your darling Amazon pay in taxes last year JB? Do you know?)
Tax fraud is another story. Sometimes there is a very fine line between tax avoidance and tax fraud/cheating. If there is, it's the IRS' job to find it and penalize the cheaters. This is most likely tax avoidance!

This like almost every Trump story you squawk about here is just another sorry attempt to try and belittle and demean the President. The liberal media has a whole cottage industry of idiots eating this stuff up in books and rag mags and websites daily! Every week you jump on the latest NYT, WaPo, CNN, HuffPo bull$shit story they produce with anonymous sources, like some little high school cheerleader! You're silly! Grow Up!

2 Months Ago: Stormy Daniels! (and back again apparently this week!)
A month ago: Trumps dick looks like a mushroom!
This week: Trumps been cheating on his taxes since he was 2!

(Have you noticed how all the stories about this inflate the dollar amount to $413 million in today's dollars? It's so silly that you eat this shit up week in and week out!)

You are so freaking silly!

 

[GILSAN]

(Have you noticed how all the stories about this inflate the dollar amount to $413 million in today's dollars? It's so silly that you eat this sh*t up week in and week out!)

You are so freaking silly!

Silly? I have a much better description of him, but better not say it or I would probably be banned from NP...

 

[JB Lions]

JB's got his pom-poms out again. This week's scandal du-jour that JB is eating up, and regurgitating all over this thread! The Trump Tax Fraud! You are so freakin silly.

Donald Trump has dozens of tax accountants and tax lawyers. I'd bet he hasn't ever seen one his tax returns other than the last page that he has to sign! He files his taxes with the IRS just like every body else that pays taxes in the U.S. He and his companies get audited almost every year, because it's such a huge company with so many subsidiaries!

Tax avoidance is practiced by almost every American I know and definitely by most companies!
(How much did your darling Amazon pay in taxes last year JB? Do you know?)
Tax fraud is another story. Sometimes there is a very fine line between tax avoidance and tax fraud/cheating. If there is, it's the IRS' job to find it and penalize the cheaters. This is most likely tax avoidance!

This like almost every Trump story you squawk about here is just another sorry attempt to try and belittle and demean the President. The liberal media has a whole cottage industry of idiots eating this stuff up in books and rag mags and websites daily! Every week you jump on the latest NYT, WaPo, CNN, HuffPo bull$sh*t story they produce with anonymous sources, like some little high school cheerleader! You're silly! Grow Up!

2 Months Ago: Stormy Daniels! (and back again apparently this week!)
A month ago: Trumps dick looks like a mushroom!
This week: Trumps been cheating on his taxes since he was 2!

(Have you noticed how all the stories about this inflate the dollar amount to $413 million in today's dollars? It's so silly that you eat this sh*t up week in and week out!)

You are so freaking silly!

What a mighty, mighty display of ignorance.

First, as a Trump fan, why in the world would you bring up Stormy? It turns out she was telling the truth and Trump was lying.

Then, I can tell you didn't read a thing. Read it - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

I read it. You and/or mr.x read and take it apart. You can't. I think part of the reason is you know you were one of the gullible people that were conned by him.

From that article you won't read, we have this:
New York state tax department reviewing fraud allegations involving Trump in NYT article
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/new...legations-involving-trump-in-nyt-article.html

You know how pathetic Trump was, article from 1991 below. Here we have a grown man, failing with the casinos and Papa Fred and to come in and:

"Fred gave Donald the equivalent of an interest-free loan by buying $3.5 million of chips from the Trump Castle casino-hotel in Atlantic City, N.J."

Daddy had to buy chips. What a disappointment his son must have been to him. That he had to carry him his whole life.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...93461fb/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.49b6b93a14bd

I mentioned this before, kinda of joking but probably some truth to it. I think maybe Daddy didn't hug him enough, he felt he disappointed him, so now he's looking for love in all the wrong places. I think he likes, strong dominant men like his father, that's why he goes out of his way to please Putin and Kim. Literally getting overjoyed getting letters from them. Seeking contant approval, oh they like me, they really, really like me. They said nice things about me. It really is a pathetic display.

 

[DNWon]

"Fred gave Donald the equivalent of an interest-free loan by buying $3.5 million of chips from the Trump Castle casino-hotel in Atlantic City, N.J."

Daddy had to buy chips.

Lol! Oh my, buying chips from your sons casino! A real federal offense there! Thanks Columbo!

 

[JB Lions]

Lol! Oh my, buying chips from your sons casino! A real federal offense there! Thanks Columbo!

I never said it was an offense. Again, learn to read, actually read. It was just another instance of Daddy needing to help his failure of a son out. One example of many.

Go ahead and read the article, come back and take it apart.

 

[offthehandle]

What is RBG too old to clap? She looks like she should be in a rest home. Her coordinated motor skills and mental skills must be lacking at 85.

 

[offthehandle]

the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has released a grim report.

Al Gore is the lead Scientist and Chief Investigator? Did he and Michael Moore cut and paste up some 50,000 pages together at a local Starbucks?

 

[GILSAN]

Fmr CNN Bureau Chief Rips Press For Bias, Misreporting, & Low Standards In Kavanaugh Reporting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=236&v=zAFhrVbrXDw

CNN trying to distance themselves from... themselves.
CNN talking about media bias is like shit talking about stink...

 

[DNWon]

Google exec slams GOP over Kavanaugh nomination: ‘F--k. You. All. To. Hell'

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/google-exec-slams-gop-over-kavanaugh-nomination-f-k-you-all-to-hell

No bias over there at Google at all!

Google tried to cover up data breach, now will shutter its little-used social network

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/g...ter-its-little-used-social-network-2018-10-08

This gem too!

 

[DNWon]

CNN trying to distance themselves from... themselves.

Lol! So true!

 

[enlytend]

Oh look - Now we’re ageist AND misogynist.

RBG works out with a personal trainer and is probably in better shape than some here.

 

[mr-x]

What is RBG too old to clap? She looks like she should be in a rest home. Her coordinated motor skills and mental skills must be lacking at 85.

My mom is 90 and still has a sharp mind. Not as good as it used to be but still good.