The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[MicroGuy]

Who knows, but in those days we had comparatively few communication endpoints. GPRS handsets didn't come along until around 2000/2001 (how many people even used GPRS?), and it's only really been possible in recent years to distribute apps for mobile devices. The .tel is much more necessary and useful in today's environment.

If it's just the TelProxy design that you're hung up on; it can be refined and improved. Lots of people have made suggestions.. where are yours?

I think in 6 to 12 months you will regret not taking a few of those $5,xxx.xx to $10,xxx.xx offers you've been getting on those .TEL gems. IMO.

 

[mactel]

I fully agree with you, about the site graphics: It bothered me a lot, I was hoping to be able to change the icons,..

However, Telnic decides about the look of the TelProxy template, and wants it to look uniform:
"With TelProxy, all .tel domains are displayed in a uniform manner using one of the two templates: one for PC browsers, and the other minimized for mobiles."

According to the Telnic roadmap, one will be able to replace the domain name with a custom heading. This requires some coding of both the backend and the front-end,

So the eye candy my look something like the jepaa search engine template:
Dot Tel Eye Candy

:tu:

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[plaggypig]

I think in 6 to 12 months you will regret not taking a few of those $5,xxx.xx to $10,xxx.xx offers you've been getting on those .TEL gems. IMO.

And I think you'll regret failing to appreciate what .tel is capable of, rather than constantly opining about how it isn't just another vanilla TLD for websites

I tend to forget what your opinion is, so your frequent updates in this thread are very helpful and most enjoyable.. I can't wait to read them again tomorrow! :great:

 

[steveteva]

I'm on a big project for a heavy website not .tel (database driven, maps, advertising system, tips, map tours...) but find that the .tel is really complementary to that big site because it is lighter (no pics, videos, map, ratings, community, directory,....) compare to my heavy website still under construction, faster and mobile device friendly.
I've "develop" bikesharing .tel witch list worldwide bike sharing places. You can try for UK it work but other cities are still under construction and some are done while posting this. As you see, .tel is perfect for these kind of project.
Also some domainers here says you can't monetize with .tel, they are wrong, use your brain, all you need is great ideas, I will put ads from bike shop companies in the local area within same directory. You can see an example at Canada, Montreal.

Any comments are welcome.

 

[mactel]

I found this good .tel tutorial, and thought, it could be useful for others, as well:

.tel Domains Tutorial: Learn how to setup and manage your .tel domain

About advertising within .tel:

Up and till now, there seems not to exist a adaptation / adjustment of the web interface of a provider.
This does mean, that you, as an end user, are not able to advertise witin your .tel, up and till now.

Neverthe less, I suggest, that you get started, and read all the instructions, and get familiar with the tasks...:

Basically, the structure of your add looks like this:


* Position/Location of your add (top, right, below)
* Sort Sequence
* Title (max. 255 characters for the title within the add)
* Label (Is used as linktext for the linking, and will be used as last line within the add)
* Link (Link leading to the adverted product)
* Text Content


Get your information here:
Sources:

1.) Telnic just published a whitepaper for developers (PDF - 4 pages) with detailed info about advertising in .tel domains @

http://dev.telnic.org/docs/advertisements.pdf


2.) For full details, see:

Chapters 4.3 and 5.5 and especially 5.6.1 (page 24)

in the "Developers Guide" @

http://dev.telnic.org/docs/devguide.pdf

 

[spline]

Momentum Grows for .tel in the UK

"Telnic Limited (telnic.tel), the registry operator for new
communications-focused .tel top level domain (TLD), today announced that as
momentum for .tel domains grow in the UK, BT Business is set to launch an
advertising campaign across Bloomberg Television and a new website at
http://bt.com/tel."

Telnic seems to be very focused on making .tel a success and I think this will have a huge positive impact on the value of .tel domains.

With the right kind of marketing you can sell anything and .tel has a couple of advantages though some naysayers cant recognize them.

They are easy to use, require no additional server cost, no need to put time on layout of things etc.

 

[hasseily]

@CDM: Please don't use the Namepros forums as a support forum, for the obvious reasons.
Use the official Telnic user forum: .tel Community Forum - Powered by vBulletin
Thanks!

 

[marynorth21]

Why .tel?

3 - .tel communications content is very easy to maintain, and can be updated at significantly shorter intervals than .com informational content. This gives search engines more incentive to re-index .tel content at shorter intervals as well.

This is true because .tel domains are more shorter to .com domains.

 

[FrenchTel]

British Telecom on .tel domains

"With a .tel, BT Business customers will now be able streamline their contact information by giving out a name or branded contact point rather multiple addresses and numbers. Additionally, this can be accessed from any device and even dialed directly by some phones. The vision of people dialing names and not numbers in future is one that BT subscribes to and, as such, .tel is an important offering for our customers."

Carl di Cicco, Head of eCommerce for BT Business

 

[plaggypig]

I love BT's new 60 second edit - it's retained all the subtle humour of the original. The most interesting piece of editing happens in the closeup scene where Emma types ben.tel into her Blackberry - it's cut in half around the point where Ben writes ".tel". This makes the message link up more tightly for a TV audience IMHO

Worth mentioning that BT must really believe in .tel for them to back it with their brand - a decision like that would not have been taken lightly.

The world's oldest telecommunications company totally gets it. Kudos to BT

 

[mjbenterprises]

Looks like some big business is starting to "get" it...This is just the tip of the iceberg... .tel is an ext that was built on Utility, meeting a need that was already there... I think domainers are going to be the last to understand the potential power of this TLD, it seems businesses are already starting to get it, because it meets their needs, and serves a definite ultility....

.tel wasn't created to be just another TLD, it was created because the function it provides is needed by big businesses all over the world...

 

[plaggypig]

It's been a whole year since Justin and Henri gave the .tel presentation at DEMOfall - well worth another watch!

 

[mactel]

I have given tips, advice, instructions about advertising within .tel, as well as about integrating .tel into a existing website, and nobody has given me a feedback. Does this not interest you? Is it too dificult? Where is the problem?

I often have the feeling, that many people are posting comments, but that we are not really communicating with eatch other...

:?

By the way: FrenchTel, please PM me. Thanks.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

And I think you'll regret failing to appreciate what .tel is capable of, rather than constantly opining about how it isn't just another vanilla TLD for websites

Gotta call you out on this one.

We can't appreciate what .tel is capable of until we see just ONE thing that .tel can do that .com can't do. Maybe you could give us one example.

 

[FrenchTel]

An example of .tel

We can't appreciate what .tel is capable of until we see just ONE thing that .tel can do that .com can't do. Maybe you could give us one example.

What about SOS1.tel?

 

[DubDubDubDot]

I'm on a big project for a heavy website not .tel (database driven, maps, advertising system, tips, map tours...) but find that the .tel is really complementary to that big site because it is lighter (no pics, videos, map, ratings, community, directory,....) compare to my heavy website still under construction, faster and mobile device friendly.

I would be curious to know what made you go with the "Click here for site.tel for our mobile friendly version." plan instead of simply auto redirecting to m.site.com like all of the major sites are in the process of doing.

Maybe your answer will convince some of us that big companies, the ones with the money to pump up the value of domains, will drop their mobile sites at m.site.com and make the switch to site.tel.

I've "develop" bikesharing .tel witch list worldwide bike sharing places. You can try for UK it work but other cities are still under construction and some are done while posting this. As you see, .tel is perfect for these kind of project.

Also some domainers here says you can't monetize with .tel, they are wrong, use your brain, all you need is great ideas, I will put ads from bike shop companies in the local area within same directory. You can see an example at Canada, Montreal.

Seems like a waste of time, and I'm not even factoring in the .tel. Google reports a 1,900 global search volume for bike sharing. A Google search turns up nothing but news stories and activist sites. Developing this niche, on any TLD, is highly speculative. I just don't see the immediate income stream.

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What about SOS1.tel?

This is a novelty site built by a domainer for other domainers.

Furthermore, this is a breeze to set up on .com. Any noob can create this on .com after studying HTML for less than 20 minutes.

 

[steveteva]

I would be curious to know what made you go with the "Click here for site.tel for our mobile friendly version." plan instead of simply auto redirecting to m.site.com like all of the major sites are in the process of doing.

Maybe your answer will convince some of us that big companies, the ones with the money to pump up the value of domains, will drop their mobile sites at m.site.com and make the switch to site.tel.


Seems like a waste of time, and I'm not even factoring in the .tel. Google reports a 1,900 global search volume for bike sharing. A Google search turns up nothing but news stories and activist sites. Developing this niche, on any TLD, is highly speculative. I just don't see the immediate income stream.

1st question/ answer: the m.site.com will required me more work and could be heavy because of pict.... .tel save me lot of time so I can focus my work on the website.

2nd question / answer: you are totally wrong saying that it's a waste of time... I'm not a beginner in business, do you think I'm doing this website because as a hobby? I have a business plan and study market and a company behind. My project is different than the .tel because it focus on a french market (france) and bike sharing is famous in France, it's not activist, news... but real business all over the place so I know what I'm doing. Also my domain name is bike sharing in french dot fr so I don't care about U.S market witch is a smaller community network but will use .tel as complementary for worldwide users, in europe and else Green transportation is something common when travel to countries, what a better way to discover Paris with a bike rather than taxi, bus... Take a Velib and have fun. There are over 25 places in France where bike sharing is not project but real.

So before you open your mouth to put down any .tel believer, get infos first.

 

[FrenchTel]

This is a novelty site built by a domainer for other domainers.

Well, I built it, I'm not a domainer and I certainly hope it can be useful not only for domainers ...
Anyway, none of the people who provided me with feedback about SOS1.tel, including the Swiss Federal Government and the Italian Automobile Club, were domainers.

Furthermore, this is a breeze to set up on .com. Any noob can create this on .com after studying HTML for less than 20 minutes.

You're right on this one, it would be very easy to set up a similar site on .com.
But it would be far slower, and slowness is the last thing you want when looking for an emergency phone number ...

 

[steveteva]

Well, I built it, I'm not a domainer and I certainly hope it can be useful not only for domainers ...
Anyway, none of the people who provided me with feedback about SOS1.tel, including the Swiss Federal Government and the Italian Automobile Club, were domainers.


You're right on this one, it would be very easy to set up a similar site on .com.
But it would be far slower, and slowness is the last thing you want when looking for an emergency phone number ...

And YES sos1.tel is usefull, better than any .com... only app for mobile phone can maybe be better but not need as .tel is free for users.

I see you name is frenchtel and don't know if you're in France but if yes you maybe can confirm to DubDubDubDot that bike sharing is not "activist or just news" in France :
Lyon (Velov) , Rennes, La rochelle, montpellier, aix (v hello), paris (Velib), marseille, besancon.......

 

[plaggypig]

Gotta call you out on this one.

We can't appreciate what .tel is capable of until we see just ONE thing that .tel can do that .com can't do. Maybe you could give us one example.

If we're shown a .tel a domain we can instantly recognise what it is (a communications hub), and since we know what it is, we know what we can do with it. Simples. This assurance also happens to be the reason why the TelProxy is designed to offer a consistent representation of records via HTTP.

Could you use .com in a comparable way to .tel, i.e. set up a communications hub with all the same advantages, in literally minutes, for just $15 /year? The registration price of a .tel domain is all inclusive - you don't have any other upfront or ongoing costs. You also benefit from an ecosystem of apps and services built around .tel.

I know I'd be a fool to hope that answers your question, you wouldn't be satisfied with anything I have to say :zzz: