The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[chader144]

@acroPlex

Back in your cave troll...

what exactly do you plan to develop on that page? A cross-linking farm of text links?

Personally you have brought little insight or good discussion to this thread.
You are harping on another domainer for using their domain! wow (really)!

 

[mjnels]

I've been less unbiased than, say, my criticism of .mobi (back then I flat out said it sucked).

muahaha... but those were some fun late night argument sessions.

btw, less unbiased.... wat?

 

[nrmillions]

Here is one of the most balanced articles I've seen written about the use, utility and potential for .tel domains in eCommerce News.

eCommerece News

One of the key observations is about the potential widespread use on mobile phones in developing countries, especially among small businesses.

why does everyone keep posting this same article again and again? are there any other articles about .tel out there that would be worth reading?

 

[phase111]

why does everyone keep posting this same article again and again? are there any other articles about .tel out there that would be worth reading?

Yes, quite a few...this one just goes quite deep is all. 8-X

 

[Acroplex]

My cave ?

Listen buddy, I've dealt with more hardasses in a day that you'll ever have to face in your life time. So spare me the tough talk, bud. I'm sorry if you feel that you have to take it personal, I am ready?

Are you?

@acroPlex

Back in your cave troll...


Personally you have brought little insight or good discussion to this thread.
You are harping on another domainer for using their domain! wow (really)!

 

[MicroGuy]

Back in your cave troll...

Another classy comment from the Telster Glee Club.

 

[Acroplex]

When I was trolling it was 1992 and on the Usenet. Before some folks here were even born I find it quite cheeky that the .tel posse can't take criticism about the pitfalls of their beloved TLD, even when the majority agrees that there are more holes to it than on Swiss cheese.

 

[chader144]

When I was trolling it was 1992 and on the Usenet. Before some folks here were even born I find it quite cheeky that the .tel posse can't take criticism about the pitfalls of their beloved TLD, even when the majority agrees that there are more holes to it than on Swiss cheese.

The problem comes when you go after somebody specifically for their domaining strategies (pills.tel). [We should all be here to support other domainers and domaining activities and to better our industry.]

Say all you want about the extension. (facts would be nice, but I would even take well thought opinions) As none of us will truly know the outcome until at least a year from now.

 

[Jeff]

I find it quite cheeky that the .tel posse can't take criticism about the pitfalls of their beloved TLD, even when the majority agrees that there are more holes to it than on Swiss cheese.

Personally, Theo ... I'm glad that you're bringing up the issues (that the majority wish to hear) and willing to lend your time and experience in this discussion (I have done similarly in bringing up issues and questions & very legitimate concerns regarding the ".MOBI, as well ... for the vast majority)! :gl:

I completely disagree with folks like chader144 for their juvenile personal attacks (specifically, "back in your cave troll (a common term, it seems, amongst the respective posses)") ... it happens in the #1 Namepros .MOBI Forum™ (with a few remaining fringe ".mobi" posse), but we're all better off in keeping these discussion alive and on topic - a person of your experience should have no problem shaking off immature, off topic personal assaults, as I've been doing it since 2006. :music:

Thanks for the continued insight and lively discussions! :talk: :imho:
-Jeff

 

[Acroplex]

The problem comes when you go after somebody specifically for their domaining strategies (pills.tel). [We should all be here to support other domainers and domaining activities and to better our industry.]

Say all you want about the extension. (facts would be nice, but I would even take well thought opinions) As none of us will truly know the outcome until at least a year from now.

That's how you perceived it, even though you're not the owner. In fact, the owner's response was quite civil and receptive of my comments.

Yes, I might be harsh at times, but I strive to be fair.

Of course, we won't know the .tel outcome until at least a year from now: will it be millions or billions wasted; hopefully, the former.

So, to recap: I used pills.tel as an example, if I beat the "crap" out of it was to demonstrate how .tel is not delivering. Again, nothing specific against the domain or its owner.

 

[chader144]

@AcroPlex My apologies to you for calling you a troll, I took your harsh words as a personal attack on pills.tel

Back on topic:

Here is the summary of dot tel:

What dot tel is:
* Unique way to update and change your information in different systems in one central location by changing your domains DNS info. dot Tel gives you multiple ways of changing this information either through the web interface, mobile phones (that support .tel like Iphone, blackberry etc), and applications

* A tld that creates a standard yet flexible way of storing contact information. As a standard you (a developer of applications) will have assurances that anytime you access the domain dns you will access the same structure. [note] the DNS records used are not exclusive to dot tel but are not usually used / required on other tlds. So as a developer you would be hit or miss if a .com has them.

* Telnic has created a template that will display your contact information for web browsers. The current template includes a link and banner pointing to the .tel org page.

* can interface with VOIP applications where calls can be routed to your current contact information

* supports contact privacy through the usage of username and passwords.

*Can link to other related .tel domains together if you choose to

* An easy way to keep everybody updated on your ever changing contact information


What dot tel is Not:
* A webpage! (There is a page that dot tel domains used to translate dns records to view contact info on the web) This is also a std across the dot tel domains. (spammer heaven? maybe)

* No Access to change A or MX records to point to a webpage. (not recommended for the domainer who wants to park a page)

Recommended improvements:
* Implement a searchable method in the API or on the contact display page that will search inside of that domain.
* Allow the contact display page to be modified to resemble company branding
* Remove Proxy page resolution of domain. (currently they resolve to s0.webproxy.nic.tel/lookup/alt.tel)[to be implemented before GA Launch]


I look at it almost like twitter in its simplicity and ability to build applications around it that make it popular and useful.

Please feel free to add or correct.

 

[Kenny]

Keeping this thread lively and educational is great, but personal attacks will not be tolerated. By anyone. Period.

Lets get back on topic, and be nice to each other.

Cyberian

 

[Acroplex]

Indeed, we can talk about it all in a civil manner. Just remember, there are both supporters and non-supporters and both are eager to showcase their arguments

chader, it's all cool.

 

[Kate]

OK, back to topic

But the tough, inconvenient questions remain sorry folks :music:

 

[plaggypig]

But the tough, inconvenient questions remain sorry folks :music:

What are your questions?

 

[Kenny]

OK, back to topic

But the tough, inconvenient questions remain sorry folks :music:

Those questions are fine Kate. It is what we want.
Along with answers backed up by facts. :tu:

We just will not allow a flame fest over differences of opinion. :bingo:

Peace,
Cy

 

[chader144]

@sdsinc
One of your questions was: who are the backers of .tel?

I have found the following from Buisness weekly published back in Oct 08,

Telnic has also attracted prestigious backers including Paris-based venture capital firm Banexi Ventures Partners; Juan Villalonga, a former chief executive of Spanish telecom operator Telefónica (TEF); and the Berggruen Group, led by billionaire Nicolas Berggruen, who made much of his fortune in private equity and hedge funds.
BusinessWeekly 08 on dot Tel

here is a company already setup to start using / selling dot tels
http://www.digitrad.com/en/home/

 

[Jeff]

Recommended improvements:
* Implement a searchable method in the API or on the contact display page that will search inside of that domain.
* Allow the contact display page to be modified to resemble company branding
* Remove Proxy page resolution of domain. (currently they resolve to s0.webproxy.nic.tel/lookup/alt.tel)[to be implemented before GA Launch]

^ Now that's some good stuff, thanks for stepping up Chader! :gl:

Indeed, we can talk about it all in a civil manner. Just remember, there are both supporters and non-supporters and both are eager to showcase their arguments

chader, it's all cool.

Good to go! :tu: :imho:

Thanks.
-Jeff

 

[Kate]

Thanks Chader for the extra information. We are making progress

 

[hakita]

Hello

Does anyone can tell if this is actually possible for me to host my own .tel DNS , in order to customize DNS query result.

Exemple, I would like to customize DNS query result ON THE FLY, depending on factors, like requester IP location.

It there any ready to use open solution to do this ? or does i have to customize a DNS source code ?

Best regards