The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[justinhayward]

Guys, just to close this one down, I was asked offline in email what the intepretation of the AUP was on directory services. This is our official position:

You are absolutely allowed under our AUP to run a commercial directory-style service under your .tel domain; the restrictions are that you are not allowed to sub-delegate the management of that contact information to a third party, nor are you allowed to sell on third- or lower-level sub-domains (which we call folders for ease) to third parties.

You are however allowed to list contact information for fees received or create some other way for customer to remunerate you for click-throughs to their own websites (clicks from .tel domains can be measured for example in Google Analytics by the customer) or via unique telephone numbers which might provide you with revenue before diverting them to the customer listed on your domain.

Thanks all,

Justin Hayward
Telnic
Justin.tel

 

[justinhayward]

Thank you telsters. That's a great name for you pioneers.

Just wanted to share a link that I really appreciated - The Sun in the UK is the voice of the people who don't understand the online world very much - look at how they've dealth with it.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/article2202158.ece

Sometimes, as they say, "know your limits". Sometimes, simple is best.

Thanks for helping us have a great Landrush launch day,

Please keep me informed of your good and bad news stories - either way, I want to know.

Justin Hayward
Telnic
justin.tel

 

[mjnels]

a couple more questions:


are .tel domains magical?

will my .tel domain play frisbee with me by the lake?

 

[Ms Domainer]

a couple more questions:


are .tel domains magical?

will my .tel domain play frisbee with me by the lake?

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Perhaps the most important question:

Will they play nice with .coms, .nets, and .orgs?

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[saucey]

Guys, just to close this one down, I was asked offline in email what the intepretation of the AUP was on directory services. This is our official position:

You are absolutely allowed under our AUP to run a commercial directory-style service under your .tel domain; the restrictions are that you are not allowed to sub-delegate the management of that contact information to a third party, nor are you allowed to sell on third- or lower-level sub-domains (which we call folders for ease) to third parties.

You are however allowed to list contact information for fees received or create some other way for customer to remunerate you for click-throughs to their own websites (clicks from .tel domains can be measured for example in Google Analytics by the customer) or via unique telephone numbers which might provide you with revenue before diverting them to the customer listed on your domain.

Thanks all,

Justin Hayward
Telnic
Justin.tel

Awsome! Thanks for clearing that up Justin! Very helpful indeed!
BTW, Congratulations on the new launch, and best of luck!

Saucey.

 

[saucey]

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Why, saucey, you're a breath of fresh air.

We telsters just might get %%-

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Lets hope so!

This was posted on the other .tel forum by Justin Hayward. Clears things up for me!

Guys, just to close this one down, I was asked offline in email what the intepretation of the AUP was on directory services. This is our official position:

You are absolutely allowed under our AUP to run a commercial directory-style service under your .tel domain; the restrictions are that you are not allowed to sub-delegate the management of that contact information to a third party, nor are you allowed to sell on third- or lower-level sub-domains (which we call folders for ease) to third parties.

You are however allowed to list contact information for fees received or create some other way for customer to remunerate you for click-throughs to their own websites (clicks from .tel domains can be measured for example in Google Analytics by the customer) or via unique telephone numbers which might provide you with revenue before diverting them to the customer listed on your domain.

Thanks all,

Justin Hayward
Telnic
Justin.tel

 

[steveteva]

Great to hear from you Justin

Many of us here was not convinced with dot tel as possibilities was restricted. Now that you clarifiy some terms, I think I can see in .tel as valuable but with a different use than other tld's.

But fees for rush registery is a bit expensive ($100/y) for min of 3 years (over $300.00)

I own a geo dot pro website like yellow pages and I've spend lot time for marketing but result after a year is low because people are not used to .pro but .com

So I'm little bit skeptical for dot tel, for me I will register only because I want the name that own in a dot com, .net, .pro, .ws... as a domain collector.

Guys, just to close this one down, I was asked offline in email what the intepretation of the AUP was on directory services. This is our official position:

You are absolutely allowed under our AUP to run a commercial directory-style service under your .tel domain; the restrictions are that you are not allowed to sub-delegate the management of that contact information to a third party, nor are you allowed to sell on third- or lower-level sub-domains (which we call folders for ease) to third parties.

You are however allowed to list contact information for fees received or create some other way for customer to remunerate you for click-throughs to their own websites (clicks from .tel domains can be measured for example in Google Analytics by the customer) or via unique telephone numbers which might provide you with revenue before diverting them to the customer listed on your domain.

Thanks all,

Justin Hayward
Telnic
Justin.tel

 

[gilescoley]

Hi all

I tried for one name and I checked my credit card and there is an "authorisation" for the $375 or whatever it was.

When will I find out if I got the name or not, or does it mean I didnt get it if I havent heard by now???

Thanks

 

[steveteva]

Here is a question that no one ask and I think it's important for some international domainers. Can owner modify the language of .tel text like : work, home, switchboard, website..) to other languages like french, spanish, german....?

Because if I register a spanish or french .tel I would like to be able to have contents in the language I suppose to target my customers.

Justin if you can answer to that question it would clarify it for INTL domainers. Thank You.

 

[FathomJH]

Check the whois for the .tel you attempted to purchase. Your registrar should send you a confirmation message if registration is successful. However, the whois should provide some validation for you as well. Progress times have been sporadic. I have heard instant registration up to a few hours; depends upon your registrar.

 

[gilescoley]

Thanks FathomJH, will have a look

 

[Shahid7]

thanks justin its good news and hopefully this effort of use over the google will help it grow bigger and better, good luck to everyone who got .tel i hope we all make a decent profit from it if we wish to sell it or even create a directory out of it.

Shahid

 

[akcampbell]

"Be FEARFUL when everyone is greedy, and be GREEDY when everyone is fearful." :]

If you applied this logic to hype and bandwagen driven new extension landrushes, you would be fearful not greedy.

Warren Buffett's investing strategy was to buy shares in companies with well known brands, strong cash flow when they were out of favour and trading on low earnings multiples. If he had been a domain investor he would have bought premium .coms with high traffic during a downturn.

If .tel was a company it would have no cash flow, no profits, no mindset value, no means of generating cash, no trading history, no customers, how much further from a Buffett type investment can you get?

 

[kev]

Some of you guys are wasting a helluva lot of money.

Cant believe your all paying around $300 for one name with an extension with very very very little potential.

If your new, and thinking about registering some, dont :imho:

 

[onlinelife]

There are tons still out there for the willing.
btw, nice catch onlinelife

Thanks for comment FathomJH!

Here is one more widely useful visit.tel
Suitable for visiting/business cards, travel, directory, info
Visit anywhere
Visit anybody

Here is a question that no one ask and I think it's important for some international domainers. Can owner modify the language of .tel text like : work, home, switchboard, website..) to other languages like french, spanish, german....?

Because if I register a spanish or french .tel I would like to be able to have contents in the language I suppose to target my customers.

Justin if you can answer to that question it would clarify it for INTL domainers. Thank You.

Just watch this intro video:
http://www.telnic.org/business-movie.html

International languages are supported in keywords so i guess you can change those too!

 

[wot]

If I had listened to naysayers regarding the various extensions that I have regged I would never have made any money in this business.

Fortunately I always follow my own "out of the box" process and have subsequently made a few dollars from this wonderful business with various extensions and now IDN are becoming part of my portfolio.

If YOU think you can do something with your .tel. .mobi, .me etc then go for it within a reasonable budget- do not overstretch yourself- .tel in particular is expensive.

As far as a thread to "show" your .tel - I am no longer surprised how such threads produce negative comments.

Why don't these people produce their own " why I did not invest in .tel" thread and leave the other threads with different topics to those who want to participate.

Me, I did say I would not invest but I took a splurge on Aus.tel - I see some possibilities - maybe for people named Aus :? :lol:

 

[steveteva]

After reviewing the telnic website from A to Z and see if it worth to get a dot tel to make some profits, I can say YES if you know how to market it.
They just have a genious idea, behind that domain name, the already "website" like, is what will add value compare to all other TLD's. Their business plan is just fantastic.
Even for the $300+ you can spend on worth a try (of course with good names). So I'll go "landrush" tomorrow morning as soon as I get to my office.

 

[HcDomains]

Hmm... any ideas on that simple .Tel page supports multi launuages or not?

 

[devabby]

anyone know where to view .tel whois info?

 

[akcampbell]

steveteva I'm opened minded and curious about .tel but where is the genius in allowing people to produce a homogenous Contact Us page that looks like it was designed by somebody on a half day Dreamweaver course? Developed .tels look like a throwback to the early 90s, no intereractivity, no functionality, no video, no graphics. Apart from save myself $5 a month in hosting fees, what can I do with a.tel that I can't so with a .com or any other extension?

When I buy something like Surf.pro, I can develop a bells and whistles Surfing site and provided my design and SEO is better than the equivalent generic .com, I can achieve the same goals for a tiny fraction of the .com cost and have a more logical and brandable fit between keyword and extension. If you reg Surf.tel you can have a drill down directory structure to surfing web site links. Why would an end user want to drill down through various levels of a .tel directory when they can go to Google and have a site link relevant to them literally within a second?