The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[Shahid7]

Here's the NEW YORK application.. (Sneaky!!!!)

sunrise applications that are successfully validated and accepted, it is expected that the associated WHOIS will be published and DNS will resolve on or after 25 February 2009. The data supplied through this web site may not be representative of the WHOIS published on/after the date above.

ApplicationID D162088-TEL
DomainName NEWYORK.TEL
Name Fuehrer Daniel
Queue Position 1
CompanyName
Address Gustav-Heinemann-Str. 15a

Linden

PostalCode 35440
Country 78
TrademarkName NEW+&+YORK
TrademarkCountry BX
RegistrationNumber 0784158
ApplicantCapacity LICENSEE
Email [email protected]
SponsoringRegistrar EuroDNS SA
Status Application is on hold pending a registrar funds check

its all freaky what all happened but never the less i hope everyone is happy.

i managed to get the following. share yours as well what u all got ?

autoparts.tel
immigrating.tel
traveling.tel
dietitian.tel
ship.tel
finances.tel
aids.tel
decoration.tel
automobiles.tel

 

[MattheP]

i didnt blame the registry but i guess i might have i don't know or maybe i was too over excited.

I think you really was over excited, I guess there were about 5000 sunrise/landrush submission for casino.tel with many of them having term "casino" in their TMs.

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finances.tel
aids.tel
decoration.tel
automobiles.tel

As I said, i dont know what your business plan with aids.tel (for example) would be - I dont think health care organizations would buy that domain or pay to get into your directory. How would you marekt decoration.tel? List all decorations companies around the world? And then what?

ps. I dont have anything against .tel, I would just advise you to be careful with investing your money - if something sounds cool.tel, it doesnt mean it will pay your bills - i got my lesson with .mobi

 

[FathomJH]

Both extensions are completely different and were made for different applications. However, like many people have stated in the past, you can use a regular extension to recreate both the purpose of a .tel or .mobi.

With that said, .tel will be hard to bring to the average consumer as well. I don't think .mobi failed and I don't think .tel will fail. "Domainers" are not the ultimate fate of an extension. But I digress .

Keeping on a positive note, anybody have plans yet for their .tel's

 

[Shahid7]

i guess, i m new to domains but hopefully fully ready for any other launch soon anyways thanks for ur info

Why do you think its sneaky? He is a domainer like you (google his postal address) and he did register trademark needed for sunrise period. I would call it business.

I think you really was over excited, I guess there were about 5000 sunrise/landrush submission for casino.tel with many of them having term "casino" in their TMs.



As I said, i dont know what your business plan with aids.tel (for example) would be - I dont think health care organizations would buy that domain or pay to get into your directory. How would you marekt decoration.tel? List all decorations companies around the world? And then what?

ps. I dont have anything against .tel, I would just advise you to be careful with investing your money - if something sounds cool.tel, it doesnt mean it will pay your bills - i got my lesson with .mobi

Thanks i got your message quite clear .

well i had 3,300 US$ with domain monster so didnt know what to do but just book some for the next 3 years.

Aids.tel can be used a world wide directory for anyone wanting to know their nearest health center where they can ask about aids and how to prevent it since its spreading like fire

as for decoration.tel yes it can be used to list companies around the world or else even sold to anyone

my main perpose was finances.tel and hopefully once the panel is open u will see what i will make out of it

casino i just wanted it, didnt know how many applications were submitted for it worldwide glad its over with i feel relived now

 

[Ms Domainer]

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Dotster seems to show all .tel as "unknown," including at least one of the ones I prebooked.

The other TLDs are showing one way or another.

My account still shows as "pending" for all the domains I pre-booked. Has anyone else pre-booked with Dotster?

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[FathomJH]

With all the names being registered, I'm wondering why names like these weren't registered as opposed to others that were:

vehicle
tit :P
cardealer
bakery
hybrids
meat
fragrance

If one is going to buy, find a definite niche or market where name will be useful.

Even something like suite.tel for hotel bookings or something along that line.

 

[Tribulatio]

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Nope. You can add subdirectories (called folders in your console).

In my vip account, I was able to create a subdomain of my subdomain account, which, I assume is gone by now.

Here's an example which does NOT resolve:

paris.hotel.tel​

I assume you can add a subdomain of a subdomain:

EiffelTower.paris.hotel.tel​

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Yes, but it is important to know that, according to what I read, and if I understood correctly, it is forbidden to use subdomains for leasing them to third parties or deriving any income from them - e.g. a subdomain for paid links, and son.
I read quite carefully the various documents, and this is the way I understand the follwing part of the Acceptable Use Policy - but correct me if I am wrong:

Domain Names may not have sub-delegations or additional labels
(an "Extended Name") that would be in violation of and/or contrary to Section 4.1(b),
except that Extended Names are permitted on the following conditions:
(a) the registration and/or use made of such Extended Name is in accordance with
the provisions in these Policies; and
(b) the registration and/or use of the Extended Name is free of charge to and is
only for the use of subsidiaries, business units or employees of the company or
members of the association that is the Domain Name Holder, and is not
offered as a service to third parties, or, where the Domain Name Holder is a
natural person, the Extended Name is only for the personal use of the Domain
Name Holder or the family of the Domain Name Holder, is not offered as a
service to third parties, and no fee or other compensation is charged in
connection with such sub-delegation.
Although it is primarily the responsibility of the Domain Name Holder to comply
with these requirements, the Sponsoring Organisation or the Registry may seek
assistance from the Registrar in enforcing them.

 

[FathomJH]

Even these are available:

coupon
luggage
asian (out on a limb for asian food, travel etc.)

 

[akcampbell]

I picked up One.tel and Digi.tel. I would urge people to be cautious with .tel. People are regging keywords in .tel that I wouldn't register in .pro and .pro has been around for 4-5 years, is more brandable than .tel, fits virtually every keywords, is a gTLD, and can be monetized and developed.

 

[Robbie185]

Yes, but it is important to know that, according to what I read, and if I understood correctly, it is forbidden to use subdomains for leasing them to third parties or deriving any income from them - e.g. a subdomain for paid links, and son.
I read quite carefully the various documents, and this is the way I understand the follwing part of the Acceptable Use Policy - but correct me if I am wrong:

Thanks for bringing this up! If I unterstand this correctly, then any directory service is prohibited. Thus any generic / geo name like hotel.tel, newyork.tel etc. would be pointless, because you aren't allowed to publish third party entries under a .tel domain!

 

[Ms Domainer]

Yes, but it is important to know that, according to what I read, and if I understood correctly, it is forbidden to use subdomains for leasing them to third parties or deriving any income from them - e.g. a subdomain for paid links, and son.
I read quite carefully the various documents, and this is the way I understand the follwing part of the Acceptable Use Policy - but correct me if I am wrong:

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Yes, but you could set up your own websites (with paid links) and include them on your card and subdomains.

No need to lease subdomains.

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[akcampbell]

I picked up One.tel and Digi.tel. New domainers are regging .tel keywords that have absolutely no value. For less than 10% of what a landrush .tel costs, you can get a more brandable and credible .pro that can be developed and monetized.

 

[Shahid7]

Does this mean ? if i have finances.me and i try to build a system of countries and cities to list people and charge them on month basis it wont be possible ?

lets assome i do not want to use the directory my self and give our spaces for people and let them be part of .tel and i even advertize it on adwords please help on that behald

 

[Robbie185]

This provision should have been made more clear from the beginning as it dramatically reduces the value of generic / geo names under .tel. Their live example under hotels.tel (now offline) was also misleading because it suggested that you may use this domain to build a hotel directory. According to Telnic's AUP the domain holder isn't allowed to publish contact data from third parties under his .tel domain (as every sub entry has to be understood as an additional label / subdomain).

 

[Tribulatio]

Excuse me, friends, but everybody is supposed to have read the Acceptable use Policy before applying for any domain name - I did and applied knowingly for a few, well-selected names. The rule as I understand it applies only to the creation of SUBdomains. No problem for building a directory, as long as it does not have sub-domains - and the directory can be monetized.

And according to me, this rule makes sense if you look at the architecture of a .tel page: nobody will go further and further ad infinitum, it should be quite targeted and simple to access the information - which wouldn't happen with a deep directory at too many levels.

BTW: the (geo) name I applied for at Name.com was grabbed - the "pending submission" did not mean they were waiting hours before submitting them, fortunately!

 

[Robbie185]

Does this mean ? if i have finances.me and i try to build a system of countries and cities to list people and charge them on month basis it wont be possible ?

lets assome i do not want to use the directory my self and give our spaces for people and let them be part of .tel and i even advertize it on adwords please help on that behald

Yes, it's prohibited by their AUP. No directories...

 

[Tribulatio]

Yes, but you could set up your own websites (with paid links) and include them on your card and subdomains.

No need to lease subdomains.

You are entirely right, I thought about it too.

 

[Robbie185]

No problem for building a directory, as long as it does not have sub-domains - and the directory can be monetized.

Well, that would be almost impossible since every single sub entry represents a sub domain. Take a look at the live examples (www.my-idol.tel p.e.)

 

[justinhayward]

Guys I'm not sure what you're complaining about here? That trademark owners were able to register generic names right up until the end of Sunrise period? As soon as applications are made they go into the Sunrise database and if they come at the end of the period, then the Validation agent - in this case Deloitte - has no possibility of validating all of the names applied for during the Sunrise period. As I mentioned before, applications in this period have to be validated and this takes some time. Whilst this happens, those names are protected from Landrush applications. If they are unique applications and they get rejected, they will come back into the Landrush list. But at the end of the day, we are running the process as transparently as we can and all applications can be checked at http://sunrise.nic.tel.

As always, feel free to contact me directly with any other questions

Justin Hayward
Telnic Limited
justin.tel

 

[Robbie185]

No problem for building a directory, as long as it does not have sub-domains - and the directory can be monetized.

Well, that would be almost impossible since every single sub entry represents a sub domain. Take a look at the live examples (www.my-idol.tel p.e.)

You would have to keep all the infos at one level...