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It seems .PRO is slowly coming out of the cage with cheaper reg prices than they were a year ago and major registrars like netsol taking notice of the extension and promoting it. B-)

Here are some that I picked up in last couple of days:

Alexandria.pro

Anchorage.pro

Arlington.pro

Belfast.pro

Birmingham.pro

Budapest.pro

Durham.pro

Fairfax.pro

Italian.pro

Lisbon.pro

Fire away with your regs after the relaunch on September 8th, 2008.
 
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Nice find. Although a good quick turnaround for the seller, this would be a steal for a professional tailor to pick up at that price.

akcampbell said:
I noticed Tailor.pro is at auction on Sedo for $350. It was only regged on 8 Sep.
 
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mjs said:
I just picked up Listings.pro off of the Recent Deletions list.
Had it for two years and not a single real estate broker I talked to had even a slight interest. I still like it, but it just didn't make the cut. I always thought it was a viable domain for building an MLS. Good luck!
 
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There is still some very nice fruit left on the .pro tree. Keywords that might have been too niche, too akward with the extension, or not commercially focused enough to keep fed and watered with $99 goggles on, look prettier at $20. I wouldn't have registered Jumbo.pro and Pronto.pro for $99 but if it's costing me the equivalent of a CD per year as opposed to a CD player, I make different decisions.

I still think reg fees have got to fall further for .pro to catch on. At $20-$30 they are still 2-3 times more expensive than other gTLD's and if you are also 100 less well known, you don't need take Donald Trump to tell you that's not going to work.

People talk about .pro being a luxury or high end product so it justifies a higher reg fee. Economically and practically, that doesn't make sense. Luxury brands charge a premium because they spend millions of dollars on advertising, packaging, and sponsorship to convince people to pay a premium price. RegistryPro don't do anything like that.

Practically, the .pro regging experience is a nightmare compared to registering any other gTLD. You have little choice of registrar, you can't transfer .pros between registrars, often what you register doesn't end up getting registered (Encirca is the only reliable registrar in my experience), the front end of all .pro registrars is archaic, you get bugged for AV details or you don't get bugged for AV details, then you get an email threatening to cancel your .pro.

Last night, I registered Patient.pro at DomainPeople. I waited 30 minutes but the WHOIS didn't get updated so I had to go and register it at Encirca. For the last week, I couldn't register anything at DomainPeople from my home PC, when I searched for any .pro, the site returned a greyed out selection box for all .pros I queried. It might have something to do with Firefox because I use Internet Explorer at work and it was fine. I've never been able to register a single .pro at Hostway.com period.

RegistryPro have got to reduce the price of .pro to $10 for new registrations and renewals, get rid of AV checking, focus on professional use vetting, and sign up some reliable volume registrars. Presumably, its the AV checking that puts off registrars like Godaddy and Moniker. Also, what happened to Melbourne IT, I can't believe RegistryPro announced this and Melbourne IT are still not offering .pro.

The worst case scenario is that RegistryPro leave renewal fees significantly higher than new registrations. If they do, the people who regged at $20 are going to drop the lot in 2009 and we are going to be right back where we started.

If I was running .pro, I'd offer them 10%-20% cheaper than .com, .pro is a substitute product and has to be discounted against the real macoy just like supermarket own brand cereals have to be cheaper than Kelloggs.

I'd get rid of AV checking because it's unworkable and results in a lack of registrar interest, to make real progress you have to take .pro to the customer, you can't expect customers to find .pro. Every registrar has got to offer .pro.

Professional use is .pro's unique selling proposition, it's a good thing, when I had 1m .pro registrations at $7, I'd sweep every resolving .pro for porn, cancel the lot, and spend $10m publicising that fact in the media. Then I'd do the same with spammers.

If you combined discounted reg fees, no AV checking to encourage mass registrar adoption, and lethal anti-porn and anti-spam policing, .pro could become a genuine alternative to .com for business use within 10 years.
 
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akcampbell said:
There is still some very nice fruit left on the .pro tree. Keywords that might have been too niche, too akward with the extension, or not commercially focused enough to keep fed and watered with $99 goggles on, look prettier at $20. I wouldn't have registered Jumbo.pro and Pronto.pro for $99 but if it's costing me the equivalent of a CD per year as opposed to a CD player, I make different decisions.

I still think reg fees have got to fall further for .pro to catch on. At $20-$30 they are still 2-3 times more expensive than other gTLD's and if you are also 100 less well known, you don't need take Donald Trump to tell you that's not going to work.

People talk about .pro being a luxury or high end product so it justifies a higher reg fee. Economically and practically, that doesn't make sense. Luxury brands charge a premium because they spend millions of dollars on advertising, packaging, and sponsorship to convince people to pay a premium price. RegistryPro don't do anything like that.

Practically, the .pro regging experience is a nightmare compared to registering any other gTLD. You have little choice of registrar, you can't transfer .pros between registrars, often what you register doesn't end up getting registered (Encirca is the only reliable registrar in my experience), the front end of all .pro registrars is archaic, you get bugged for AV details or you don't get bugged for AV details, then you get an email threatening to cancel your .pro.

Last night, I registered Patient.pro at DomainPeople. I waited 30 minutes but the WHOIS didn't get updated so I had to go and register it at Encirca. For the last week, I couldn't register anything at DomainPeople from my home PC, when I searched for any .pro, the site returned a greyed out selection box for all .pro I queries. It might have something to do with Firefox because I use Internet Explorer at work and it was fine there. I've never been able to register anything at Hostway.com period.

RegistryPro have got to reduce the price of .pro to $10 for new registrations and renewals, get rid of AV checking, focus on professional use vetting, and sign up some reliable volume registrars. Presumably, its the AV checking that puts off registrars like Godaddy and Moniker. Also, what happened to Melbourne IT, I can't believe RegistryPro announced this and Melbourne IT are still not offering .pro.

The worst case scenario is that RegistryPro leave renewal fees significantly higher than new registrations. If they do, the people who regged at $20 are going to drop the lot in 2009 and we are going to be right back where we started.

If I was running .pro, I'd offer them 10%-20% cheaper than .com, .pro is a substitute product and has to be discounted against the real macoy just like supermarket own brand cereals have to be cheaper than Kelloggs.

I'd get rid of AV checking because it's unworkable and results in a lack of registrar interest, to make real progress you have to take .pro to the customer, you can't expect customers to find .pro. Every registrar has got to offer .pro.

Professional use is .pro's unique selling proposition, it's a good thing, when I had 1m .pro registrations at $7, I'd sweep every resolving .pro for porn, cancel the lot, and spend $10m publicising that fact in the media. Then I'd do the same with spammers.

If you combined discounted reg fees, no AV checking to encourage mass registrar adoption, and lethal anti-porn and anti-spam policing, .pro could become a genuine alternative to .com for business use within 10 years.


Have you mentioned this to registrypro.pro recently?
Last time I checked with their legal dept. about what me, a professional software engineer could do to get a license. They didn't reply.

Since then, I've incorporated (but scarcely know what to do with my new LLC). I went to the link where I originally had to provide the A/V info and it won't let me update it with new information).

Which gets me to my next question: Has anyone determined that an LLC qualifies as making one a credentialed/licensed pro?
 
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Well said Andrew.

Even though I have no issues submitting AV information, it does keep legitimate users from registering and developing .PRO domains. The focus should be on professional use rather than focusing on whether a domain submitted its licensing information. It almost sounds like a membership to some exclusive club which no outsiders can join and frankly it keeps regular users away.

I also agree that .PRO needs a level playing field with other extensions. The high prices, exclusivity, the licensing requirements almost make it look like we have to play with golden shoe on while others get away with sneakers.

It seems to me that registrypro it self is not clear on rules and how it wants to deal with porn/spam issue. I sent email to registrypro couple of weeks ago about babe.pro website which is operating with adult/porn content. I have not heard back yet.

We should give credit to registrypro for pushing it to registrars like netsol and others. And netsol has done a great job at promoting .PRO at a level they can. When I lookup around 200 to 300 names from last year which were available after I registered 130 of my .PRO, many, 90% of them are gone now.

If .com is for commercial use, it did not and does not have any requirements to prove ones commercial use credentials. A 12 year old kid can register .com without worrying about commercial use while at the same time a business can also have web presence. I would like to see that happening with .PRO... hopefully. The difference here is that with .COM there is very little chance that brands, companies will be able to pick up their desired name however .PRO fills that gap very easily for both businesses and non businesses alike.

sky said:
Which gets me to my next question: Has anyone determined that an LLC qualifies as making one a credentialed/licensed pro?

So far I've been able to use my LLC information and have not had any issues.
 
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what is the status of demand for geo.pros?

Just curious...I own a few...

Thanks
 
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Got a reply from Netsol regarding this issue:

InvisionTech said:
Anybody else seeing this?

In Network Solutions, once you click on manage a domain there use to be a "Submit Your Business License Information" link but it is not showing up there anymore...

Thank you for contacting Network Solutions Customer Service Department. We are committed to creating the best Customer experience possible. One of the first ways we can demonstrate our commitment to this goal is to quickly and efficiently handle your recent request.



With regard to your concern, please be advised that do not have to submit business license information for each .pro domain registered. The business validation process is based on account contacts. If each .pro domain name is registered under the same primary contact the business license information is only required to be submitted once.
 
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i think GEO.pro have some potential, such a broad audience, can be used for jobs, real estate, vacation, travel etc.

i own a couple of caribbean .pro that i will try to find end users for
 
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statement.pro
mister.pro
madam.pro

What's your opinion on these names?
 
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marriage.pro

thoughts?
 
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wlmdi, could you please write IN the reply box. I almost had to figure out what you were talking about...

marriage.pro is okay, try registering Elegance.pro (elegant.pro is taken) for decorating and wedding services.

I grabbed some more GEOs:

Rotterdam.pro (largest port in Europe, busiest in the world from 1962 to until 2004)
TelAviv.pro
Tough.pro

;)
 
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wlmdi said:
thoughts?
Marriage.pro, though less tied to the delivery of bridal and/or traditional wedding services (ie. catering and the like) is no lesser a keyword, if not a category killer. I would maintain that it transcends close cousins, wedding.pro and bridal.pro, as encompassing all that a union represents from identifying the right mate, family and estate planning, hopes and challenges, without limitation.....
 
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telaviv.pro was on my list but i told myself i wouldnt spend another dime registering, cant afford it =(
 
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spoofies said:
telaviv.pro was on my list but i told myself i wouldnt spend another dime registering, cant afford it =(

Yeah, I don't know why it was still available... probably because of volatile situation in that region. :alien:
 
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tel aviv is still a major geo, not the capital but huge nonetheless. sau paulo was taken so i regged riodejaneiro instead

well since im not regging anymore might as well share these were all available as of about a week ago - 2 weeks ago. good luck

organ
physiology
convention
roam
afford
yalta
zeta
beta
curve
whip
weak
warrant
construct
lead
void
bundle
spread
specialize
climax
split
underwrite
underwriter
merge
merge
mergers
viral
wage
sole
wholesaler
telecommunication
semiconductor
ambi
novus
virtus
velox
vivo
tera
peta
 
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Thanks, I picked up few more:

Block.pro (wide usage)
Blocks.pro (wide usage)
Blocker.pro (wide usage, with sub domains: spyware.blocker.pro, popup.blocker.pro, etc.)
Locks.pro

These names are still available if anybody wants to register them:

Vault.pro
Malware.pro

Please announce here if you do register 'em.
 
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wlmdi said:
thoughts?

Marriage.pro would make a great home page for Zsa Zsa Gabor, who must surely hold the world record for the longest ninth marriage in the non-bigamist category, 22 years and counting.

I would disgree with mjs that marriage is a match for wedding as a keyword. Wedding wouldn't give marriage a second look. The wedding is where the money is and the keyword people use for searching. This is reflected in sale prices; Weddings.org $34,500 in 08 and Wedding.net at $8,000 in 04. Marriage manages just Marriages.tv at $250.

Another issues is goodness of fit with .pro. Marriage is a fluffy kitten keyword to begin with and perhaps something more sinister in the long run. I'm not convinced either of these vibes fit .pro's wind tunnel design.

Marriage is still a very nice keyword though and in certain niches would work with .pro. If I was trying to sell it or develop it I would focus on two areas;

1) Marriage Counseling. MarriageCounselor.com sold for $36,000 in 07. Marriage.pro would be a great site name for a marriage councelor directory or marriage guidance.

2) Marriage Bureau. I think these are more common is Asian countries where marriage is more of an arrangement between families. The .pro would work a treat where the spit is between palms rather than lips.

I'm not convinced Marriage.pro would work for a wedding minister but if you want to do some market research I can PM you the details of a wedding minister who wanted to buy my domain Dearly Beloved dot com.
 
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For a healthy .PRO portfolio:

Dairy.pro
Cream.pro

:D
 
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Dairy.co.uk sold for $12,500 in 07, it's a nice industry category. Hopefully, Cream.pro will rise to the top for you. You should email RegistryPro and tell them you regged it, really rub it in.
 
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InvisionTech said:
For a healthy .PRO portfolio:
Dairy.pro
Cream.pro
:D
Very good job! My congratulations!
 
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