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The NP's Official USA Political Thread

Located in The Break Room, started by lennco, Jul 20, 2012

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Who is to Blame for the Troubled US Economy?

  1. Both Parties

    183 vote(s)
    47.0%
  2. Neither Party

    36 vote(s)
    9.3%
  3. Democrats

    76 vote(s)
    19.5%
  4. Republicans

    94 vote(s)
    24.2%
Total: 389 vote(s)
  1. JB Lions

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    You keep proving my point that you post stupid stuff.
     
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    Your struggle reading

    "ALSO none of this disputes that the Russians (and others) are attempting to interfere in the US election again."

    "None of this disputes that Trump desires to replace those who have Intel expertise with partisan loyalists, or dismisses the larger issues and concerns about Russia and how the president seeks help from abroad. "
     
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    Maybe you should actually read the crap you post.

    Shocker: That ‘Bombshell’ About Trump Offering Julian Assange a Pardon to Cover-Up for Russia Was Total Garbage

    Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...d396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html


     
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    Maybe, you should actually read my earlier posts where I went over it. I literally quoted Rohrabacher, you're not posting anything new.

    2 days ago - https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-nps-official-usa-political-thread.764342/page-1835#post-7641383
     
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    One of the wealthiest men on Earth is plotting to steal the nomination, the Dem Party cannot even run a caucus in Iowa, corporate media can arbitrarily decide to marginalize candidates at will, but we’re supposed to panic again about Russian bots on Twitter? Ludicrous freak show - @mtracey
     
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    I had thought to myself, How can the Democrats f*ck up Bloomberg bailing them out in an effort to get them the white house back, low and behold they f*cked up.

    So now the Democrats have Bernie Sanders driving the bus, which had taken any hopes of them winning the white house back, One day you people are going to figure out how to do something right, maybe
     
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    Super Tuesday, 11 days away. Should have a better feel of where it's at. But voters, Russians, Republicans........ Bernie has a lot of support. If it's Bernie, it'll be Trump for another 4.

    Tomorrow, Nevada
     
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    You can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking you used when you created them. Translation: that got you to vote for the epic failure now taking up space in our White House.


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    You are right, It doesn't solve any problems, but it keeps my constitution, my republic, my founded America intact, that is all this about with me.
     
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    Bernie does have a lot of support, and it is support by actual Americans, not corporations, not the MIC, not wall st, not political action committees ie: not from the 1% but from the 99% of Americans.

    He is the only person on the Dem side that will withstand con man Trump's accusations. he is disliked by the corp dems because he threatens their corporate gravytrain and he is not a puppet (like all the other Major contenders at this point).
     
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    And he'll lose to Trump. He's never given real numbers on how much free healthcare and free college will actually cost. Plus, how would he even get any of this done if elected. Wouldn't have the votes needed.
     
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    For sure and it was well deserved.Bloomberg bribed his way onto the stage only to get "stopped and frisked".
     
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    Your heart is in the right place, I commend you on that, please don't be a sucker for Trump's con. Above all else he only cares about himself, not Our Constitution, not our Country, not about 99% of Americans and not about truth or justice.
     
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    Actually he has quoted "real numbers" for medicare for all, the most interesting from the study bankrolled by the Koch brothers which essentially backfired on them because it concludes that medicare for all would save money when all is said and done.

    More importantly though, for all of these "how are you going to pay for it" accusations pushed by corporate media, think about all the taxpayer $ spent, often misspent and even misplaced when given to the Pentagon (et all) for foreign wars that don't benefit American citizens at all and almost always just create more enemies for us to confront in the future, this is there purpose, to create conflict to endlessly feed the MIC, wall st and the 1%.
     
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    So with free healthcare, free college, debt forgiveness, how much more would you be paying in taxes.
     
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    It’s you who is trying to save face. I literally quoted the guy 2 days ago, some of the same stuff you just linked too.
     
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    Did you miss my point? How much would our Gov't have available to spend on the vast majority of Americans (who's $ it is in the first place) if it wasn't allocated to foreign wars, regime change, paying off bribes by the MIC bribes by multinational corps etc
     
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    Did you miss mine? You can't tell me, that's where this all falls apart. Let me try to explain this another way.

    I have ObamaCare, medical and dental from 2 different companies. I know exactly how much I pay each month. Let's call that number X. I understand with this new system, I won't pay X anymore but I will pay more in taxes. Will that amount be less than, around the same amount or 2, 3, 10x what I'm paying now? That's what this comes down to. People want to know, how will this affect me. How much will I be paying, their hard earned money. You can't tell me, Sanders or Warren can't tell me. They've done a poor job marketing this and explaining to people. And you very well know, any time we have some Government program and they say it will cost X, how many times has it cost less than X? It's usually a lot more.

    And btw, Sanders is a bit of a fraud. He's an Independent Socialist that does nothing for the DNC. The only time he calls himself a Democrat is when he is running for President to take advantage of the system/organization they have in place, instead of getting with some already existing Socialist group or starting his own Socialist party. A vote for Sanders is basically a vote for Trump. I doubt even the Trump supporters here would disagree with that. It's the easiest path for Trump for another 4 years. Easy attack ads, Socialist, taxes skyrocketing etc. The turnout for Trump would be crazy. Might even fire up some Moderates who don't like Trump to vote for Trump.
     
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    I've got news for the Republican establishment. I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us.
    8:02 PM · Feb 21, 2020
    @BernieSanders

    I guess in response to:

    #BernieKnew trending - https://twitter.com/search?q=#BernieKnew&src=trend_click

    That tweet is why Trump has a good chance of winning. Sanders supporters are going to sit home again when he doesn't get the nod.
     
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    People rally around Quaden Bayles, Australian boy allegedly bullied at school for dwarfism after mom's viral video

    Sorry for posting off topic, but this really touched me, this is a huge problem in America, this needs to stop now.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/people-ra...ied-school-155330813--abc-news-parenting.html

    I fought the bully in grade school, didn't have one in junior high, I had to fight the bully in High School, I taught my son to fight a bully, he never had to, It is senseless fighting, but necessary for punks that insist on trying to instill fear.
     
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    Google AI will no longer use gender labels like 'woman' or 'man' on images of people to avoid bias
    A Google AI tool that can recognize and label what's in an image will no longer attach gender tags like "woman" or "man" to photos of people.

    Google's Cloud Vision API is a service for developers that allows them to, among other things, attach labels to photos identifying the contents.

    The tool can detect faces, landmarks, brand logos, and even explicit content, and has a host of uses from retailers using visual search to researchers identifying animal species.

    In an email to developers on Thursday morning, seen by Business Insider, Google said it would no longer use "gendered labels" for its image tags. Instead, it will tag any images of people with "non-gendered" labels such as "person."

    Google said it had made the change because it was not possible to infer someone's gender solely from their appearance. It also cited its own ethical rules on AI, stating that gendering photos could exacerbate unfair bias.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-vision-api-wont-tag-images-by-gender-2020-2?IR=T
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    JB, good post/questions and I hope you know by now that I appreciate a thoughtful debate. My point in short is that we actually have the tax payer money to insure that every American has first class health insurance like all other "1st world Countries", it is just misspent on so many non American activities the largest of which is regime change wars.

    Instead of helping Americans live healthier lives our Gov't spends our tax dollars ending the lives of innocent citizens in other Countries and to some extent, our own. Ask yourself why the MSM or the guests that they select to have on, never ask how we are going to pay for that (which enriches the already rich) but always ask how we are going to pay for anything that will benefit the remaining 99%.

    As far as savings are concerned, medicare for all would include an increase in taxes but that cost would be far offset by your never having to deal with networks, or pay premiums, deductibles, copays, or surprise bills. It's basically a mega group health insurance plan.

    As for Sanders or Warren doing a bad job of explaining things that is more the fault of the MSM, who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. The MSM has zero interest in marketing anything or even reporting accurately on anything an actual progressive has to say, it's a threat to the gravy train that they ride for a living.

    Sanders and the DNC? Have you looked into the DNC track record of cheating? Why the F would you trust or give half a sh*t about the DNC at this point?

    Anyway, to be continued, I'm being yelled at and I have a glass of wine to drink, God help us all :)
     
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