discuss The Environmental Thread - Earth Matters, so what's holding us back?

[Cannuck]

I believe everyone would agree on at least one point - planet Earth matters! For years, scholars and environmentalists have touted the idea - that the boundaries of life on our planet have been stretched to a breaking point by human activity. From a scientific perspective, the notion of climate change is no longer up for debate. Our species and life as it exists on planet Earth now depends on the choices we humans make. Each individual with a brain possesses the ability to contribute solutions to our common current dilemma, so what's holding us back?

Is it our lack of knowledge; a conflict of interest; the lack of will, and/or other priorities that define the human race? Do we possess the courage to take an initiative, to act upon our convictions and choose to help preserve the Blue planet? Have our environmental problems become too big for individuals to tackle that we must leave it for governments to handle?

Are we limited by our own self-interests, by the confines of our own box or bubble? Have we merely been caught up in our daily mundane existence, distracted by the media and current affairs, that we fail to consider the future? Is Climate Change simply a hoax? Is the human species destined to evolve or are we doomed to extinction?

Here is place to discuss any pertinent thoughts or ideas you may have on the subject. Every thought counts. Please be respectful.

 

[Cal2]

Voice Conservation​

Those that have been practising conservation long before Climate Change was a thing, find their voices muted (lands and rights dimished) amongst the 'greenrush'. Here are some videos from indigenous people world-wide regarding such issues:

https://www.survivalinternational.org/articles/tribalvoiceconservation

Maybe they could use magnifying their voices, get others to pay more attention to and add to their voices?

Slogans vs. Taglines: What’s your brand’s battlecry?​

https://www.ries.com/2015/11/13/slogans-vs-taglines-whats-your-brands-battlecry/

 

[dna]

The Centralia coal mine fire has been burning in Pennsylvania since 1962.
At its current rate, it could continue to burn for another 250 years.
If politicians really cared about carbon dioxide in the atmosphere,
this fire would have been put out years ago.
But Democrats can't figure out how to make any money from putting
out this coal fire. Whereas the $570 million that went to Solyndra
and the $401 million that went to Abound Solar made millions
for Obama contributors before the companies went bankrupt.
And the Carbon Tax will bring in lots of money.

 

[Cannuck]

The Centralia coal mine fire has been burning in Pennsylvania since 1962.
At its current rate, it could continue to burn for another 250 years.
If politicians really cared about carbon dioxide in the atmosphere,
this fire would have been put out years ago.
But Democrats can't figure out how to make any money from putting
out this coal fire.

Where have the Republicans been since 1962? The environment is a bi-partisan issue.

Whereas the $570 million that went to Solyndra
and the $401 million that went to Abound Solar made millions
for Obama contributors before the companies went bankrupt.
And the Carbon Tax will bring in lots of money.

Whereas $570M of what? It sounds cooked to me.

 

[dna]

I don't know why you don't already know this, or can't find it for yourself, but,
you can read about Solyndra here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra

Republicans don't believe that carbon dioxide is a real or serious
environmental problem. So, it really isn't a bi-partisan issue.
But Democrats rant and rave about carbon dioxide and yet
do nothing about this coal fire. And why is that?
It's because no money can be made from stopping this fire.

 

[Cannuck]

Republicans don't believe that carbon dioxide is a real or serious
environmental problem. So, it really isn't a bi-partisan issue.
But Democrats rant and rave about carbon dioxide and yet
do nothing about this coal fire. And why is that?
It's because no money can be made from stopping this fire.

Air quality is important as it impacts everyone, so where there's a will, there's a way.

A fact largely ignored by people living in the south is the impact of burning fossil fuel has on Arctic permafrost domain, melting permafrost releases hundreds of giga-tons of CO2 and methane.

Negative emmisions technologies are necessary in order to preserve Arctic ecosystems, as this effects everyone, not just those living in northern regions.

Though permafrost-affected regions cover only 10% of Earth’s surface, they constitute more than half of all remaining terrestrial and marine wilderness (Watson et al., 2018), making them crucial to maintaining biosphere integrity in our rapidly changing world.

These regions, which we refer to as the permafrost domain (Figure 1), contain between 2.5 and 3 trillion tons of organic carbon—more than all of Earth’s other life, soil, and atmosphere combined (Hugelius et al., 2014; Abbott et al., 2016b; Sayedi et al., 2020; Mishra et al., 2021; Abbott B. W., 2022; Schuur et al., 2022).

The permafrost domain is home to tens of millions of people, including diverse Indigenous and immigrant cultures that both depend on and sustain these globally-significant ecosystems (Riedlinger and Berkes, 2001; Parkinson and Berner, 2009; Pearce et al., 2009; Chapin et al., 2013; Díaz et al., 2019; Proverbs et al., 2020; Ellis et al., 2021; Mettiäinen et al., 2022).

The permafrost domain’s three-fold importance—biodiversity, climate, and human peoples—means that governments, corporations, and communities within and outside of these regions must commit to preventing dangerous environmental change (Chapin and Díaz, 2020; Whyte, 2020; Chapin, 2021; Natali et al., 2021; Arctic Council, 2022).

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fenvs.2022.889428/full

 

[Cal2]

The Food Chain Should Be a Food Circle​

Regenerative farming and upcycled ingredients are both on the menu for a resilient food system that’s better for humans and nature alike.

Today we know that building food systems that are resilient to shocks such as the pandemic is no longer enough. In 2023, we will be redesigning food to also help us solve pressing global challenges including climate change and biodiversity loss.

For that to be possible, the whole system needs to be regenerative by design. This means that rather than bending nature to produce food, food needs to be designed for nature to thrive. In 2023, FMCGs, retailers, and innovators will take up this mantle, working with farmers to begin creating a circular economy for food.

They will start to choose ingredients that aren’t only regeneratively produced but are also lower-impact, diverse, and upcycled. For instance, rather than making breakfast cereals using only wheat grown with conventional methods, the same product can be made from a mixture of wheat and peas grown using regenerative farming methods. According to a recent study, making cheese, cereal, and potato products using this approach could reduce greenhouse gas emissions from the food industry by 70 percent and reduce its impact on biodiversity loss by 50 percent in Europe. This is hugely significant given that the current food system is the primary driver of biodiversity loss globally and is responsible for a third of all human-made greenhouse gas emissions.

https://www.wired.com/story/agriculture-food-chain-sustainability/

 

[Cal2]

Storytelling Will Save the Earth​

Emotional resonance, not cold statistics, will bring home the scale of the climate crisis—and the need for action.

https://www.wired.com/story/environ...-89ce-e74456fe92de_text2vec1-reranked-by-vidi

 

[Cannuck]

The Food Chain Should Be a Food Circle​

This would also apply to homes built from recycled materials... called Earthships

https://www.thecoolist.com/earthship-homes/

https://greencoast.org/earthship-homes/

However, Earthships can be problematic in cold and humid climates. Several Earthships in Canada faced problems with inadequate heating. Also, in some very humid areas, there were problems with mold. Canadians solved their problems using wood stoves, propane heaters, and generators as a backup. New models of Earthships feature improved insulation and better ventilation systems to prevent mold growth.

 

[Cannuck]

The cause of many wars, a weapon, and that we cannot live without...

 

[dna]

 

[Cannuck]

LOL, says maga majordomo mouthpiece

 

[dna]

 

[Cannuck]

The dude with the haircut has a point... fossil fuels has provided us with the tools to measure Climate Change.

How Do We Know Climate Change Is Real?​

Facts + Evidence = Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate and human activity is the principal cause.

"Since systematic scientific assessments began in the 1970s, the influence of human activity on the warming of the climate system has evolved from theory to established fact."

"Scientific information taken from natural sources (such as ice cores, rocks, and tree rings) and from modern equipment (like satellites and instruments) all show the signs of a changing climate."

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

 

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[Cannuck]

Like George said, "There's nothing wrong with the planet compared to the people on it...the Earth isn't going anywhere, we are."

 

[dna]

The amount of carbon dioxide in our air is 0.04%.
For you climate crybabies who are no good at math,
let me explain that 0.04% is way less then 1%

 

[Cannuck]

The amount of carbon dioxide in our air is 0.04%.
For you climate crybabies who are no good at math,
let me explain that 0.04% is way less then 1%

For you climate denialists who don't understand science, CO2 is measured in ppm.

FYI, each part per million of CO2 in the atmosphere represents approximately 2.13 gigatonnes of carbon, or 7.82 gigatonnes of CO2. 1% atmospheric CO2 would equal ~10 000 ppm. Do the math, genius.

The Earth has not experienced this rate of increase in greenhouse gasses in over 800, 000 years!

Readings taken from ice core samples.

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicat...s-atmospheric-concentrations-greenhouse-gases

 

[dna]

Does Kary Mullis understand science?
He has a Nobel Prize in Chemistry for developing PCR
He calls climate scientists "parasites with degrees."
But you don't have to call me "genius."
My IQ is only 139.

"Politicians don't know anything about scientific things.
They just want to look like they do.
Somebody has to advise them.
Who are those advisors?
It's an important question because those people—who are
always having to come up with emminent disasters
that can be prevented by governmental projects—are
manipulating you.
They are parasites with degrees..."

 

[Cannuck]

Does Kary Mullis understand science?

His peers said he knew little about molecular science, but he was good at synthesizing hallucinogenic drugs at Berkeley. He knew less about Climatology.

He has a Nobel Prize in Chemistry for developing PCR
He calls climate scientists "parasites with degrees."

That's because he was jealous when the company he worked for sold rights to the PCR test for $300M. They also said, “He’s the molecular biology equivalent of Donald Trump in terms of his personal behavior.”

But you don't have to call me "genius."
My IQ is only 139.

Okay gifted one, I'll make it simple for you: climate changes. The faster the change, the harder it is for nature to cope. We are part of nature, so if it goes down, nature takes us with it. Are you cool with that?

 

[dna]

Ted Koppel of ABC News—Nightline describes Kary Mullis
slightly differently:

"Take all the MPV's from professional baseball, basketball,
and football. Throw in your dozen favorite movie stars and
a half dozen rock stars for good measure, add all the television
anchorpeople now on the air, and collectively, we have not
affected the current good or the future welfare of mankind
as much as Kary Mullis."

My quotes are from Kary Mullis's book "Dancing Naked in the Mind Field."
Where are your quotes from? Who are these so-called peers?
He has obviously offended many climate parasites.