discuss The Domain Business is getting to be a Joke.

[johnn]

- Not too many people concentrate their time to buy/sell anymore - They are just complaining and posting craps.
-- Godaddy steal my names
-- I have a trademark name - what to do?
-- Begging for appraisal on crappy names
-- What do you do at the moment? who care?
-- How much money do you make? who care?

- Domain Name Wanted Section:
-- One word dictionary name - budget $50 - Good luck with that
-- Brandable names (what the heck is that?) Budget $20-$20,000 - It means $20 per name

- $1 Auction Section
-- How do you make money on these auctions? 900 Hours After The Last Bid?
-- You can spend time to work at McDonald and make more money than this.

I rest my case.

 

[Kate]

My biggest pet peeve: crap extensions released one after another and domainers still falling for it. People burning money ablaze on handregs that are already slated for drop next year.
Too many distractions, not enough focus. Making money requires strong focus and clear ideas. Fuzzy brains don't achieve good results.

 

[Casey L]

I’d like to add people making individual threads for their sales. There’s already a 700+ page thread for reporting sales, stop fishing for likes!

 

[urlurl]

you forgot:

"i want to sale this premium names (that was just register yesterday) for $3000, please send best offer"

"i have 200 names i just registered, how do you sell names"

"why is no one buying my names"

"can i register google-searchnews.info and sell it to google, how to do this"

"buy top because its the top and the top; top's, top"

"i have the best domain ever!" (no you dont its crap and an embarrassment to the industry)

 

[alcy]

the best is individual thread for sales without giving full names mahahahha

I sold "g***f**ee***l**a.com" for 54354$

its like the namepros wheel of fortune mahahhhhahaha

 

[forge]

I think there was a lot "lost in translation" in the original post, and if it was made in the name of "fun", then most readers (myself included) won't get the joke.

Unfortunately, what I think can also be added to the list of "problems" is the significant number of "old school" members on NamePros who seem to have a big chip on their shoulder when it comes to their "weathered" view of the industry as well as an all-too-obvious disdain for newcomers (or "noobs", that tiresome tag often unfairly assigned to members based solely on their join date).

As the saying goes, the only thing that is constant is change, and there's always going to be lots of resistance to change especially from those of us who've been around long enough to have maybe an overinflated sense of nostalgia about "the good old days".

 

[Acroplex]

John,

This was exactly the case in 2003. Only the numbers have changed.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

We encourage everyone to ask questions or suggest ways for improvement. Anyone can list negatives about anything, but productivity and progress come from discussing and finding solutions.

 

[NickB]

your post cracked me up - had tears in my eyes from laughing!

- Not too many people concentrate their time to buy/sell anymore - how do you know this? Have you taken a poll asking how much time people spend on buying and selling - do have any supporting evidence behind this statement?

-- Godaddy steal my names - why not list every other marketplace as well and all other people buying names - you snooze you lose

-- I have a trademark name - part of the learning curve either look it up or ask on here as there are plenty of helpful hands around

-- Begging for appraisal on crappy names - how else are new people going to learn unless by doing research, asking questions and for other peoples opinions. It's a trial and error process. I think begging is quite a strong word to use - writing please is not begging it's being polite - haven't seen a lot of begging on the appraisal page to be honest.

-- What do you do at the moment? Polite question, engaging with people is not a bad thing

-- How much money do you make? would NEVER ask anyone this question so agree

love the post - hope your case is a bit lighter after writing it!

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

We encourage everyone to ask questions or suggest ways for improvement. Anyone can list negatives about anything, but productivity and progress come from discussing and finding solutions.

its not listing negatives... its identifying problems.

without that step.. how can you find soltuions

The presentation and framework of the list matters. It has to be presented in a way that invites solutions.

 

[forge]

However, johnn, I do agree that too many members are way too self-absorbed, based on the growing number of "look at me, PLEASE!" type of posts and even click-bait style titles crafted to garner attention, likes or who knows what.

We're in an increasingly narcissistic society, and social media is largely to blame for that I think, or at least it's brought this all out into the open in a kind of ugly, unsettling way.

 

[equity78]

The biggest thing here is that if people are abiding by Namepros rules, they can post what they like and others can choose to ignore them.

There are plenty of things I think are foolish, but it's not my place to tell someone unless they are breaking the law, hurting someone else or are going to get hurt themselves like buying well known tm from companies that enforce their ip very strongly.

You have to know someone before you know what they are wasting or what their motivations are.

 

[CrazyTech]

As someone probably both guilty of one or two of the grips here and wanting to gripe (at times) himself, I think the biggest issue is attitude.

Back in the day it did feel easier to sell things on forums. I think a lot of it had to do with fewer posters and a more serious tone. I would echo some of the comments here in that there are a lot of us who don't know everything and probably overprice our names at times, but there seem to be even more who expect everything for nothing, be they buyer or seller.

My largest gripe I see here is the requests area. It's getting very annoying to see a budget of $xxx, $x,xxx, or $xx,xxx only to see tucked away in the text description area of the post that they're actually paying $5 or $20/name. I've made that mistake a couple of times now and received very rude PMs about not being able to read, etc. It almost seems intentional at times. I think it's an ego thing.

I had another user request domains in a niche and then berate my prices in a series of PMs as well as other users in the chat. I get that you're trying to find a deal, but I've never seen so many people feel that they need to give their opinions of names when asking prices and values are in the neck of 20%-40% apart at lower level names. If you don't like the price, act like an adult and move on. What's funny is these people are terrible negotiators and they never seem to follow up with firing an actual offer back when you place the ball in their court.

That section has really soured on me this go around, and it's just a general lack of respect for people exhibited by a lot of the members there. I don't know that you can fix it in the end.

 

[johnn]

Someone sent me an PM and asked me if I want to buy LLL.org. I said I am always buying.
After we agreed on the price and asked the seller send me Paypal, he said he made bids on the auction and will let me know if he wins.

Is it a joke or what? Trying to sell a name that you bid on auction and did not win yet?

 

[ComboNames]

the biggest joke is when a user upgrade his namepros account to Blue or Gold , thinking he will sell his crappy names.

 

[ivey]

I am still hopeful in this business, even though i seem to be going through a challenging season.. I just think you have to be innovative and think outside the box. Sometimes challenges force you into greatness.

However I do agree with some stuff you said:

1. (One word dictionary name - budget $50 - Good luck with that): Some budgets even start at $25 and they have the audacity to say that, if the name is really good they may consider paying the full $50. In some cases they warn you not to price the name at $50 just because that's their max. I agree with that in some cases. But when you ask for a premium level names..even if your budget is $500..The seller is actually sacrificing to meet your maximum. Don't assume everyone who prices their domain at your Max is shooting for the stars. People are too delusional about what wholesale means and about the value of domains. I like deals like everyone else... sometimes I give away deals and sometimes I receive amazing deals. But the problem is people have grown so accustomed to getting deals on namepros that they forget they are getting a deal. Now they think it's the standard, or it's their entitlement.. It's like people think they are doing you a favor to give you $25 if you posted food.com for sale. Obviously this would never happen, but it's just to make a point. People don't understand every name is different and wholesale rages based on that difference. I have bought names on here for $25 wholesale but i have also bought names for $75 and $250..etc all wholesale imo. Simply because I know and believe the return will far exceed the purchase price. So both the requests and the buyers are living in a bubble.

I will still try to get deals like everyone else..but not with a entitlement delusional mindset.

 

[equity78]

I’d like to add people making individual threads for their sales. There’s already a 700+ page thread for reporting sales, stop fishing for likes!

@NamePros management could easily change that by not allowing those posts, merging into the 700 page thread.

 

[biggie]

I will still try to get deals like everyone else..but not with a entitlement delusional mindset.

I like that statement @rivey001

but on the other side of that crypto-coin, I do think folks are entitled to have some degree of delusion in their mind



how else can the registrars keep selling them crappy names before they wake up

imo...

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

I’d like to add people making individual threads for their sales. There’s already a 700+ page thread for reporting sales, stop fishing for likes!

Namepros could easily put a stop to that, so @Support Team why is it allowed?

We try not to add rules unless they're absolutely necessary. We also remove rules with that in mind.

 

[SuperDudePro]

I'm with you for most of that. The silver lining for me is that this is the competition.

 

[alcy]

We encourage everyone to ask questions or suggest ways for improvement. Anyone can list negatives about anything, but productivity and progress come from discussing and finding solutions.

its not listing negatives... its identifying problems.

without that step.. how can you find soltuions

 

[johnn]

We encourage everyone to ask questions or suggest ways for improvement. Anyone can list negatives about anything, but productivity and progress come from discussing and finding solutions.

Eirc - With due to respect, I only list problems.

 

[Acroplex]

As I said, we had the same discussions 15 years ago. All that changed is the actual numbers.

 

[DNWon]

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[Furquan]

I just don't know any joke about domaining but only this one from old or gold or may be too old domainer telling everyone "stick with .com" believe me it's one of the biggest joke for me.